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Postby Hemakral » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:30 pm

Tarsonis wrote:I didn't say that. the question was about "with objects." There's been some close calls on that front. However Michael Reinohl, shot and killed Aaron Danielson. So there's 1. I'm sure I could find a few more if I dig. But, The Far right does have the higher body count if that's what you're angling for.

> "antifascists regularly beat people to death with blunt objects"
> cites only murder committed by an antifascist in the last twenty years
> he used a gun
absolutely genius
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:32 pm

I mean, they're openly fascists, why would anyone be surprised that a cult of violence did a bunch of violent crime?
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:34 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:I mean, they're openly fascists, why would anyone be surprised that a cult of violence did a bunch of violent crime?

Did they? It looks like vandalism.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:35 pm

Hemakral wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:I didn't say that. the question was about "with objects." There's been some close calls on that front. However Michael Reinohl, shot and killed Aaron Danielson. So there's 1. I'm sure I could find a few more if I dig. But, The Far right does have the higher body count if that's what you're angling for.

> "antifascists regularly beat people to death with blunt objects"
> cites only murder committed by an antifascist in the last twenty years
> he used a gun
absolutely genius



keep moving those goalposts until you feel safe.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:36 pm

Tarsonis wrote:

keep moving those goalposts until you feel safe.

I mean fuck antifa but that's not what happened.
Keemstar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sounds super dangerous compared to guns. Very scary.


Just because people died by shields and flags does not excuse it people have still died
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:52 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

keep moving those goalposts until you feel safe.

I mean fuck antifa but that's not what happened.
Keemstar wrote:
Just because people died by shields and flags does not excuse it people have still died


it is in the case of the side convo I had there.
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Hemakral » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:25 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:I mean fuck antifa but that's not what happened.


it is in the case of the side convo I had there.

got proof?
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:05 pm

Hemakral wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
it is in the case of the side convo I had there.

got proof?


Yes, it's called the previous page button.
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:17 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Hemakral wrote:got proof?


Yes, it's called the previous page button.

Searching the thread, the first post to have the word "object" or "objects" is...
Tarsonis wrote:
Hemakral wrote:so you have no examples of antifa actually killing someone
good to know


I didn't say that. the question was about "with objects." There's been some close calls on that front. However Michael Reinohl, shot and killed Aaron Danielson. So there's 1. I'm sure I could find a few more if I dig. But, The Far right does have the higher body count if that's what you're angling for.

Hm.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:34 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Yes, it's called the previous page button.

Searching the thread, the first post to have the word "object" or "objects" is...
Tarsonis wrote:
I didn't say that. the question was about "with objects." There's been some close calls on that front. However Michael Reinohl, shot and killed Aaron Danielson. So there's 1. I'm sure I could find a few more if I dig. But, The Far right does have the higher body count if that's what you're angling for.

Hm.



You got me necro, I'm guilty of the horrendous crime of paraphrasing.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:42 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Searching the thread, the first post to have the word "object" or "objects" is...
Hm.



You got me necro, I'm guilty of the horrendous crime of paraphrasing.

Precisely what were you paraphrasing (using quotation marks for some reason)? Even using the vaunted previous page button, I'm stumped.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:45 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

You got me necro, I'm guilty of the horrendous crime of paraphrasing.

Precisely what were you paraphrasing (using quotation marks for some reason)? Even using the vaunted previous page button, I'm stumped.

Of course you are, why follow the quote chain back when you can just sit around and act smugly superior.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:51 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Precisely what were you paraphrasing (using quotation marks for some reason)? Even using the vaunted previous page button, I'm stumped.

Of course you are, why follow the quote chain back when you can just sit around and act smugly superior.

My guy. I honestly did follow the quote chain back before I made that first post. I like to know what I'm talking about. I don't see what you're claiming.


God forbid you actually clarify, though, when you can sit around and act smugly superior, right?
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:57 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote: Of course you are, why follow the quote chain back when you can just sit around and act smugly superior.

My guy. I honestly did follow the quote chain back before I made that first post. I like to know what I'm talking about. I don't see what you're claiming.



No, you didn't. Because I've only made 7 or 8 posts in this entire thread, and if you had followed the quote chain back you'd see the post from Gaia, that I responded to in my first post here.




God forbid you actually clarify, though, when you can sit around and act smugly superior, right?


I'm not the one deliberately ignoring the painfully obvious.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Depends. With the seizure and redistribution of wealth they could potentially be turned into proletarians. Failing that, yes, they'd have to get the Cuban treatment.



Again, I'm a she. It's not that hard.

And I don't care about the current system. I want a Socialist state.



There is a key difference: Leftists don't want to kill people for their race, ethnicity, sexuality, or gender identity.


Say that to Stalin and mao 100 million dead they where just trying to make things better
100 million people died on the sacrificial altar of utopianism

At least they didn't kill them on lines of religious, cultural and ethnic background. It was caused by famine due to intense changes in an outdated system.
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:03 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:My guy. I honestly did follow the quote chain back before I made that first post. I like to know what I'm talking about. I don't see what you're claiming.



No, you didn't. Because I've only made 7 or 8 posts in this entire thread, and if you had followed the quote chain back you'd see the post from Gaia, that I responded to in my first post here.

God forbid you actually clarify, though, when you can sit around and act smugly superior, right?


I'm not the one deliberately ignoring the painfully obvious.

Yeah, you obviously are, when this whole argument started because you brought up someone getting shot in response to Gaia explicitly asking for - as has already been pointed out to you several times - incidents where someone was killed by a "flag or shield or blunt weapon."

Try following the quote chain yourself before accusing others of not doing so.
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:07 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:I mean, they're openly fascists, why would anyone be surprised that a cult of violence did a bunch of violent crime?

Headline reader moment
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:15 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
No, you didn't. Because I've only made 7 or 8 posts in this entire thread, and if you had followed the quote chain back you'd see the post from Gaia, that I responded to in my first post here.



I'm not the one deliberately ignoring the painfully obvious.

Yeah, you obviously are, when this whole argument started because you brought up someone getting shot in response to Gaia explicitly asking for - as has already been pointed out to you several times - incidents where someone was killed by a "flag or shield or blunt weapon."

Try following the quote chain yourself before accusing others of not doing so.

False, I brought up Eric Clanton, who tried to kill over 7 people with a bike lock, to contest the implicit point that said weapons aren't that dangerous. Clanton very easily could have killed people, he just failed to do so, fortunately.

Then Hemakral moved the goalposts to "no examples of Antifa killing anyone."

Which is false and I demonstrated why with the examples of shooting.

After which, they moved said goalposts again.


Thank you for proving once again that you will lie until your blue in the face rather than deal with a subject on the level.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:19 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Yeah, you obviously are, when this whole argument started because you brought up someone getting shot in response to Gaia explicitly asking for - as has already been pointed out to you several times - incidents where someone was killed by a "flag or shield or blunt weapon."

Try following the quote chain yourself before accusing others of not doing so.

False, I brought up Eric Clanton, who tried to kill over 7 people with a bike lock, to contest the implicit point that said weapons aren't that dangerous. Clanton very easily could have killed people, he just failed to do so, fortunately.

So, yeah, irrelevant.
Then Hemakral moved the goalposts to "no examples of Antifa killing anyone."

Which is false and I demonstrated why with the examples of shooting.

After which, they moved said goalposts again.

So you're okay with moving the goalposts when it suits you. Otherwise why complain when the posts are brought back to the original position?
Thank you for proving once again that you will lie until your blue in the face rather than deal with a subject on the level.

*you're
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:21 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:False, I brought up Eric Clanton, who tried to kill over 7 people with a bike lock, to contest the implicit point that said weapons aren't that dangerous. Clanton very easily could have killed people, he just failed to do so, fortunately.

So, yeah, irrelevant.
Then Hemakral moved the goalposts to "no examples of Antifa killing anyone."

Which is false and I demonstrated why with the examples of shooting.

After which, they moved said goalposts again.

So you're okay with moving the goalposts when it suits you. Otherwise why complain when the posts are brought back to the original position?
Thank you for proving once again that you will lie until your blue in the face rather than deal with a subject on the level.

*you're


Yeah I don't know I why expected you to act in good faith. Just doesn't seem to be your m/o.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:26 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:So, yeah, irrelevant.

So you're okay with moving the goalposts when it suits you. Otherwise why complain when the posts are brought back to the original position?

*you're


Yeah I don't know I why expected you to act in good faith. Just doesn't seem to be your m/o.

So, wait, I go back, read through the quote chain a few times to make sure, say I can't find what you're talking about, (after you have already snidely dismissed another poster who seemed confused regarding what you claim) and then get accused of just sitting around and acting smug and deliberately ignorant instead of doing the thing I just did. But somehow I am the one that isn't engaging in good faith.

Well, whatever you say.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:28 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Yeah I don't know I why expected you to act in good faith. Just doesn't seem to be your m/o.

So, wait, I go back, read through the quote chain a few times to make sure, say I can't find what you're talking about, (after you have already snidely dismissed another poster who seemed confused regarding what you claim) and then get accused of just sitting around and acting smug and deliberately ignorant instead of doing the thing I just did. But somehow I am the one that isn't engaging in good faith.

Well, whatever you say.


You saw it. You lied. And when corrected you doubled down anyway. I'm done here.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:33 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:So, wait, I go back, read through the quote chain a few times to make sure, say I can't find what you're talking about, (after you have already snidely dismissed another poster who seemed confused regarding what you claim) and then get accused of just sitting around and acting smug and deliberately ignorant instead of doing the thing I just did. But somehow I am the one that isn't engaging in good faith.

Well, whatever you say.


You saw it. You lied. And when corrected you doubled down anyway. I'm done here.

I. Did not. Lie. Don't you dare accuse me of that.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:36 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
You saw it. You lied. And when corrected you doubled down anyway. I'm done here.

I. Did not. Lie. Don't you dare accuse me of that.


As I said, I'm done here.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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