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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:53 am

Keemstar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"The Oath Keepers are more dangerous because they carry guns"
"Yeah, well antifa carry FLAGS!"


They use their shields and flags as weapons

Sounds super dangerous compared to guns. Very scary.
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:53 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Keemstar wrote:
in this world would you deport capitalists


Depends. With the seizure and redistribution of wealth they could potentially be turned into proletarians. Failing that, yes, they'd have to get the Cuban treatment.

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ok then he said he wanted to deport revolutionaries so he should extend the hand to everyone who disagrees with the current system,


Again, I'm a she. It's not that hard.

And I don't care about the current system. I want a Socialist state.

Keemstar wrote:Communism, socialism, marxism, any far left is the same coin as fascism just a different side
two sides of the same coin

Antifa is just as bad as the oath keepers they both go to protests and beat each other up. in Charlottesville, the alt-right was doing a bayonet charge of sorts and the Antifa people have shields. Then one of them would fall on the ground they would beat the Sh*t out of the other one from the other group.


There is a key difference: Leftists don't want to kill people for their race, ethnicity, sexuality, or gender identity.


Say that to Stalin and mao 100 million dead they where just trying to make things better
100 million people died on the sacrificial altar of utopianism
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:54 am

Keemstar wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Depends. With the seizure and redistribution of wealth they could potentially be turned into proletarians. Failing that, yes, they'd have to get the Cuban treatment.



Again, I'm a she. It's not that hard.

And I don't care about the current system. I want a Socialist state.



There is a key difference: Leftists don't want to kill people for their race, ethnicity, sexuality, or gender identity.


Say that to Stalin and mao 100 million dead they where just trying to make things better
100 million people died on the sacrificial altar of utopianism


So how were they killed for "their race, ethnicity, sexuality, or gender identity", as per the original point?
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
Keemstar wrote:
They use their shields and flags as weapons

Sounds super dangerous compared to guns. Very scary.


Just because people died by shields and flags does not excuse it people have still died
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:56 am

Ifreann wrote:
Keemstar wrote:
They use their shields and flags as weapons

Sounds super dangerous compared to guns. Very scary.


Just because people died by shields and flags does not excuse it people have still died
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Untecna
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Postby Untecna » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:57 am

Keemstar wrote:
Untecna wrote:Much more harmful activity is done by the Oath Kwepers than anti-fascists, mostly because anti-fascists are peaceful and don't carry around AR-15s. However, for some reason we only like to point out a select few people taking advantage of a situation and exaggerate the whole thing.


Most of these self-proclaimed anti-fascists carry around anarcho-communist and syndicalist flags. Also AT these anti fash rallies they go if its so peaceful why do they need riot gear

"Dude, the Oath Keepers are far more violent."

"But antifa carry flags! Those are weapons!!!!!!1!1!1"

And? Flags are flags, many protesters around the world carry then for various reasons.

Anti-fascists are far less violent than you are led to believe.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:57 am

Keemstar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sounds super dangerous compared to guns. Very scary.


Just because people died by shields and flags does not excuse it people have still died

Billions shield-bashed to death by antifa super soldiers. Fs in chat.
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:59 am

Vassenor wrote:
Keemstar wrote:
Say that to Stalin and mao 100 million dead they where just trying to make things better
100 million people died on the sacrificial altar of utopianism


So how were they killed for "their race, ethnicity, sexuality, or gender identity", as per the original point?

No but they where still killed to make a utopia does that make it any better or worse.
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:02 am

Untecna wrote:
Keemstar wrote:
Most of these self-proclaimed anti-fascists carry around anarcho-communist and syndicalist flags. Also AT these anti fash rallies they go if its so peaceful why do they need riot gear

"Dude, the Oath Keepers are far more violent."

"But antifa carry flags! Those are weapons!!!!!!1!1!1"

And? Flags are flags, many protesters around the world carry then for various reasons.

Anti-fascists are far less violent than you are led to believe.[/quote

you're missing the point in a pride parade protest you don't see gay people bashing someone's head in with a flag.
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Postby Lady Victory » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:04 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
United Nations of Gaia wrote:Transgender fascists make about as much sense as you do, they're rare, most of them joking, the others either delusional, confused or trying to appeal to fascists.
And though I wish we could one day rule the world under the pride banner and turn all cis people trans, that's like, a joke, not a possibility.


You misunderstand. My point is that transgender folk, or minorities, or any identity group, can engage in fascism. Not collaborate with white fascists, but be a distinct kind of fascist.


My G there are barely enough trans people to be a political bloc at all. Most of them are Left-leaning.

Transfascists are either a meme or fringe but irrelevant either way.

Keemstar wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Depends. With the seizure and redistribution of wealth they could potentially be turned into proletarians. Failing that, yes, they'd have to get the Cuban treatment.



Again, I'm a she. It's not that hard.

And I don't care about the current system. I want a Socialist state.



There is a key difference: Leftists don't want to kill people for their race, ethnicity, sexuality, or gender identity.


Say that to Stalin and mao 100 million dead they where just trying to make things better
100 million people died on the sacrificial altar of utopianism


Okay, and? I don't like Stalin or Mao. I'm not a Marxist-Leninist.
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Postby Untecna » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:04 am

Keemstar wrote:
Untecna wrote:

"Dude, the Oath Keepers are far more violent."

"But antifa carry flags! Those are weapons!!!!!!1!1!1"

And? Flags are flags, many protesters around the world carry then for various reasons.

Anti-fascists are far less violent than you are led to believe.[/quote

you're missing the point in a pride parade protest you don't see gay people bashing someone's head in with a flag.

Have you ever actually seen the majority areas of these protests, or do you just turn on Fox News and they end up showing one person taking advantage and looting a store?

Isolated cases of violence are portrayed by right-wingers to say that their opposition, who are far more peaceful than said right-wingers supporters, are the bad guys, and by most cable networks for entertainment reasons. Dig deeper than a foot in the ground and you'll find that, inevitably, you were wrong.
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Lady Victory
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Postby Lady Victory » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:05 am

Keemstar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how were they killed for "their race, ethnicity, sexuality, or gender identity", as per the original point?

No but they where still killed to make a utopia does that make it any better or worse.


I mean many of Stalin's and Mao's victims were people like kulaks, landlords, etc. I can't really sympathize with them tbqh.
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Keemstar
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:07 am

Untecna wrote:
Keemstar wrote:"Dude, the Oath Keepers are far more violent."

"But antifa carry flags! Those are weapons!!!!!!1!1!1"

And? Flags are flags, many protesters around the world carry then for various reasons.

Anti-fascists are far less violent than you are led to believe.[/quote

you're missing the point in a pride parade protest you don't see gay people bashing someone's head in with a flag.

Have you ever actually seen the majority areas of these protests, or do you just turn on Fox News and they end up showing one person taking advantage and looting a store?


I dont watch fox why is that the thing every left winger always asumes
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:07 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Keemstar wrote:No but they where still killed to make a utopia does that make it any better or worse.


I mean many of Stalin's and Mao's victims were people like kulaks, landlords, etc. I can't really sympathize with them tbqh.

so landlords deserve to die
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Postby Lady Victory » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:08 am

Keemstar wrote:
Untecna wrote:Have you ever actually seen the majority areas of these protests, or do you just turn on Fox News and they end up showing one person taking advantage and looting a store?


I dont watch fox why is that the thing every left winger always asumes


Because you're using their talking points.
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Postby Untecna » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:08 am

Keemstar wrote:
Untecna wrote:Have you ever actually seen the majority areas of these protests, or do you just turn on Fox News and they end up showing one person taking advantage and looting a store?


I dont watch fox why is that the thing every left winger always asumes

Because right-wingers always use their talking points.
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Postby Keemstar » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:08 am

Keemstar wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
I mean many of Stalin's and Mao's victims were people like kulaks, landlords, etc. I can't really sympathize with them tbqh.

so landlords deserve to die

They also had families and children how would you feal if that was your dad being sent to death
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Postby Lady Victory » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:09 am

Keemstar wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
I mean many of Stalin's and Mao's victims were people like kulaks, landlords, etc. I can't really sympathize with them tbqh.

so landlords deserve to die


I can't answer that question due to site rules.

But I can tell you I don't lose sleep over their misfortunes.
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Postby Lady Victory » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:10 am

Keemstar wrote:
Keemstar wrote:so landlords deserve to die

They also had families and children how would you feal if that was your dad being sent to death


I never knew my dad lmao

Anyway lots of people can have families, including evil people.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:11 am

Watching this kid incoherently bounce from one talking point to the next is certainly amusing, but would seem to have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:12 am

Keemstar wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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That would be why I quoted you, yes.


ok then he said he wanted to deport revolutionaries so he should extend the hand to everyone who disagrees with the current system,

Keemstar wrote:In this guy's vision of society, you should deport people who disagree with people. Therefore a teen can get arrested for posting a meme. You have some serious fascist tendencies sir

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Postby East Landistan » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:19 am

Narland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Remember, you can't be a Nazi and a proud American. We literally had a war about this, and the Nazis lost.

There are few things more un-American than the various forms of Marxian dialectics promoting envy, strife, and hate, be it National Socialism (Naziism), International Socialism (Communism), Corporato-Socialsim (Fascism), or any other ideology that denies individuals their dignity as self-governing human beings to be free from authoritarian and totalitarian petty despots (bullies) who think they know how best live other peoples lives than the individual persons themselves. Millions, 10s of millions and hundreds of millions murdered alone by these wretched ideologies, and still Nazis, Communists and Fascists, never willing to learn from history are all over the place.

it was a while ago that this was posted, but isnt the point of socialism to be anti-authoritarian and about freedom and equality? Just because the USSR and the Nazis did it wrong doesnt mean socialism is bad.
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Postby Picairn » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:24 am

Oh no who could have predicted that a white supremacist group would do such sketchy things? I'm visibly shocked, shocked I say.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:39 am

Apparently Patriot Front were keeping detailed records of member's weight.
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Postby United Nations of Gaia » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:55 am

Keemstar wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sounds super dangerous compared to guns. Very scary.


Just because people died by shields and flags does not excuse it people have still died

I triple fucking dare you to show me ONE example of a right wingers killed by an antifa flag or shield or blunt weapon, triple dare you.
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