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Artistic freedom in performing the national anthem?

Yes, please
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To some degree
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Just no
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Celdoria
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Eccentric singer sings national anthem at inauguration

Postby Celdoria » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:31 am

As the title says; newly elected president of Croatia asked an aging diva to sing the anthem at his inauguration and she did it in her own specific way of singing that differed greatly from how the hymn is usually sung. She is one of the greatest singers in these parts and generally loved by the public but now the social media is burning with shaming comments criticizing her performance. I personally didn't dislike nor like it and I'd like to know where everyone's opinion is about that since the anthem is something considered sacred for any nation.

I'm new here and unsure if we're allowed to post youtube or other links but if you're curious a quick search should bring it up.

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:39 am

Eh, I think it should be the freedom of an artist on how to perform it....however, since like what you said, an anthem is considered as sacred for a nation, so a limitation to some degree should be applied, but not enforced by law. That will give a room for some creativity, I guess.

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Postby Albrenia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:49 am

As long as one doesn't butcher the song or change it beyond recognition, I'm fine with it.

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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:23 am

Celdoria wrote:As the title says; newly elected president of Croatia asked an aging diva to sing the anthem at his inauguration and she did it in her own specific way of singing that differed greatly from how the hymn is usually sung. She is one of the greatest singers in these parts and generally loved by the public but now the social media is burning with shaming comments criticizing her performance. I personally didn't dislike nor like it and I'd like to know where everyone's opinion is about that since the anthem is something considered sacred for any nation.

I'm new here and unsure if we're allowed to post youtube or other links but if you're curious a quick search should bring it up.


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Postby Nuroblav » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:13 am

A national anthem is a song like any other, so yes - freedom should be granted.
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Postby Rainbowsix » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:15 am

i say to some degree yea sing it patriotic but please not like this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMA2iF6RuXk
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Eccentric singer sings national anthem at inauguration

Postby Deacarsia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:20 am

I am of the opinion that national anthems should simply be sung in the traditional fashion. National anthems celebrate the nation, not the singer.
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Postby Celdoria » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:57 am

Rainbowsix wrote:i say to some degree yea sing it patriotic but please not like this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMA2iF6RuXk


Oh it was kinda worse than that...

Anyways here's the link to hear for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anTakjn59bk

Here's a version sung by a RTL's kids talent singing show winner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIUjOTdzHaU - she sang it with minimal changes and was praised by the public for it

And here's the traditional version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XROyPWjxYgk

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Postby Juristonia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:00 am

I think people put way too much value in a tune, just because it's a national anthem.
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:23 am

Rainbowsix wrote:i say to some degree yea sing it patriotic but please not like this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMA2iF6RuXk

It's not terrible. It's just slower than you are used to, mostly because most people are trying to get it over with so they can get to the game.

Why shouldn't people sing it as if it's a serenade to their nation?
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:42 am

Katganistan wrote:
Rainbowsix wrote:i say to some degree yea sing it patriotic but please not like this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMA2iF6RuXk

It's not terrible. It's just slower than you are used to, mostly because most people are trying to get it over with so they can get to the game.

Why shouldn't people sing it as if it's a serenade to their nation?

*pounds the table* National anthems must be sung one way and one way only!

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Postby Katganistan » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:47 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Katganistan wrote:It's not terrible. It's just slower than you are used to, mostly because most people are trying to get it over with so they can get to the game.

Why shouldn't people sing it as if it's a serenade to their nation?

*pounds the table* National anthems must be sung one way and one way only!

Remember when Jose Feliciano sang The Star-Spangled Banner before a World Series game in 1968?

I thought it was a nice rendition. Folksy was in in the late sixties early seventies.

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Postby Gaazikumukh » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:47 am

Why even have national anthems? Seems like anytime someone tries to perform it slightly differently it makes a huge fuss.

Ban all national anthems!

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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:48 am

Certain ad libs are fine, as long as the meaning of the song isn't distorted.
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Postby New Bremerton » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:53 am

Freedom of expression is paramount and plenty of leeway should be given. I thought her rendition was nice to listen to.

Then again, if we value peace, we don't want this to happen:

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:03 pm

New Bremerton wrote:Freedom of expression is paramount and plenty of leeway should be given. I thought her rendition was nice to listen to.

Then again, if we value peace, we don't want this to happen:

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Postby Jetan » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:41 pm

Obviously no two people are going to sing anything exactly like each other, and artists always put their own stamp on their performances but national anthem is something of a special case in my opinion. If there is a conventional or correct way to perform for it (I'd imagine for most national anthems there is), then in my opinion that's how it should be performed. Your own spin can be put into other performances.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:55 pm

New Bremerton wrote:Freedom of expression is paramount and plenty of leeway should be given. I thought her rendition was nice to listen to.

Then again, if we value peace, we don't want this to happen:

Epic national anthem fails

Darn Egypt is mentioned a lot. I wonder if they are the same videos are it's just that there are many 'failed' performance of national anthems in Egypt.

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Postby Jetan » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:00 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:Freedom of expression is paramount and plenty of leeway should be given. I thought her rendition was nice to listen to.

Then again, if we value peace, we don't want this to happen:

Epic national anthem fails

Darn Egypt is mentioned a lot. I wonder if they are the same videos are it's just that there are many 'failed' performance of national anthems in Egypt.

Oh, the Egyptian military band is absolutely the murderer of national anthems.
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:14 pm

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I wouldn't mind if someone sang Glory to Hong Kong in their own unique way as long as they're not being deliberately disrespectful, and even if they were, it's their inalienable right and one that must never, ever be abridged in any way.

If there is one national anthem that unironically deserves to be butchered beyond recognition or otherwise shouted down and drowned out with patriotic and moving renditions of Glory to Hong Kong, it's March of the Volunteers.

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Postby Nuroblav » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:19 pm

Farnhamia wrote:*pounds the table* National anthems must be sung one way and one way only!

Remember when Jose Feliciano sang The Star-Spangled Banner before a World Series game in 1968?

Yeah! And don't the Sex Pistols' rendition of God Save the Queen!

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Imperial Joseon wrote:Certain ad libs are fine, as long as the meaning of the song isn't distorted.

Ad libs? What, like in Rap nowadays?
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Postby Rainbowsix » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:21 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OIcZFjgf6I

national anthem gone wrong i cant stop laughing...
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Postby US-SSR » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:38 pm

Absolutely. My favorite version of "The Star-Spangled Banner" is Jimi Hendrix's from Woodstock.
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