The Polska Electoral Polka(A Polish Election Thread)

[Dresderstan]

Doesn't look very Gerrymandered to me. And the opposition fractured themselves, it didn't have anything to do with Orban. Maybe if the opposition came together and ran single candidates against Orban in the FPTP constituencies they'd have a chance. As it stands, Fidesz won a large majority because the opposition split themselves.

Orban helped to do it and has also made the courts his lapdogs

Put your money where your mouth is an prove it.

[Shrillland]

Orban helped to do it and has also made the courts his lapdogs

Put your money where your mouth is an prove it.

Well, the 2012 Constitution that shrunk the Országgyűlés, placed a lot of traditional values into stone, and basically gave Orban his carte blanche also got rid of a provision that required runoffs between the top two in seats without an absolute majority. Before this, runoffs were fairly common in a way similar to France, it was often the way for opposition parties to get into the FPTP seats by uniting their resources and their voters. This meant that a split vote between other parties would stay split allowing Fidesz to divide and conquer.

[Diopolis]

Put your money where your mouth is an prove it.

Well, the 2012 Constitution that shrunk the Országgyűlés, placed a lot of traditional values into stone, and basically gave Orban his carte blanche also got rid of a provision that required runoffs between the top two in seats without an absolute majority. Before this, runoffs were fairly common in a way similar to France, it was often the way for opposition parties to get into the FPTP seats by uniting their resources and their voters. This meant that a split vote between other parties would stay split allowing Fidesz to divide and conquer.

I mean, it also has to be born in mind that the center-to-mid right party is the biggest and most successful in Hungary because the second biggest is the neo-Nazis. There's probably a lot of centrist to center-left hungarians that begrudgingly support Fidesz because it keeps Jobbik out of power.

[Shrillland]

Well, the 2012 Constitution that shrunk the Országgyűlés, placed a lot of traditional values into stone, and basically gave Orban his carte blanche also got rid of a provision that required runoffs between the top two in seats without an absolute majority. Before this, runoffs were fairly common in a way similar to France, it was often the way for opposition parties to get into the FPTP seats by uniting their resources and their voters. This meant that a split vote between other parties would stay split allowing Fidesz to divide and conquer.

I mean, it also has to be born in mind that the center-to-mid right party is the biggest and most successful in Hungary because the second biggest is the neo-Nazis. There's probably a lot of centrist to center-left hungarians that begrudgingly support Fidesz because it keeps Jobbik out of power.

I won't say anything after this because this is about Poland, but we also need to remember MSZP's last government was an unmitigated disaster that was openly caught admitting that they had lied to the public about how badly the Great Recession had hit the country, which was the main catalyst for Orban's return.

[Diopolis]

I mean, it also has to be born in mind that the center-to-mid right party is the biggest and most successful in Hungary because the second biggest is the neo-Nazis. There's probably a lot of centrist to center-left hungarians that begrudgingly support Fidesz because it keeps Jobbik out of power.

I won't say anything after this because this is about Poland, but we also need to remember MSZP's last government was an unmitigated disaster that was openly caught lying about how badly the Great Recession had hit the country, which was the main catalyst for Orban's return.

That's definitely part of it, but yeah, this is mostly a Polish thread.

[Shrillland]

We may need to revive this thread: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/polands-senior-right-wing-party-moving-to-govern-alone/ar-BB19akfV?li=AAggFp5

PiS's coalition has collapsed over animal rights legislation, an election could come before the year's out.

[San Lumen]

We may need to revive this thread: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/polands-senior-right-wing-party-moving-to-govern-alone/ar-BB19akfV?li=AAggFp5

PiS's coalition has collapsed over animal rights legislation, an election could come before the year's out.

for parliament? I thought they had an absolute majority?

[Shrillland]

We may need to revive this thread: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/polands-senior-right-wing-party-moving-to-govern-alone/ar-BB19akfV?li=AAggFp5

PiS's coalition has collapsed over animal rights legislation, an election could come before the year's out.

for parliament? I thought they had an absolute majority?

As Therm pointed out, they don't. And it collapsed, just not in the way he anticipated. One of the smaller parties disagreed with an animal rights bill that bans the raising of fur animals and the ritual slaughter of kosher and halal meats, so they left this morning.

[Thermodolia]

We may need to revive this thread: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/polands-senior-right-wing-party-moving-to-govern-alone/ar-BB19akfV?li=AAggFp5

PiS's coalition has collapsed over animal rights legislation, an election could come before the year's out.

for parliament? I thought they had an absolute majority?

They only have 198 seats which is about 32 shy of a majority.

The other two parties in coalition have quite a lot of power

[Phoenicaea]

much sadness for present drift in eu countries, where eu commission lets eastern countries in the hand of mild mafia parties of local reactionaries, gives them subsidies and take their vote clots.

the fat belly is enlarging and it ends to absorbing all the union, as in a decaying holy roman empire. my personal condolescences for this common aim going unpolitely.

[Shrillland]

Meanwhile, Kaczynski's going to rejoin the front benches to try to keep the government together and avoid an election: https://www.yahoo.com/news/official-polands-kaczynski-likely-join-093433618.html