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[DRAFT] Preventing the Spread of Disease

Postby Wallenburg » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 pm

Before you ask, yes I am serious. Mostly. This will be submitted soon.
Preventing the Spread of Disease
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Category: Regulation || Area of Effect: Safety || Proposed by: Wallenburg

Understanding that the health of all people depends greatly on the organisms they interact with,

Recognizing that several species of marsupials are known to suffer from serious epidemics of disease, and that all instances of marsupials are incredibly vicious or generally disgusting,

Convinced that this international body cannot reconcile the continued existence of diseased or otherwise dangerous populations of marsupials with public health and safety,

The World Assembly hereby:

Defines "marsupial" as any of the various brutal, soulless, nonsentient mammals that carry young in a pouch,

Requires member states to remove marsupials from all inhabited areas within their jurisdiction, and to expediently quarantine marsupials in high-security closed environments,

Restricts reproduction among these quarantined marsupials to that which member states or the entities overseeing the reproduction can prove to further legitimate scientific or educational interests,

Mandates the removal of some vital organ from any marsupial released from quarantine,

Urges member states to provide priority medical and hospice care to those children directly exposed to marsupials for any prolonged period of time,

Recommends that member states license inhabitants to hunt and destroy marsupial populations, especially those encroaching on inhabited areas,

Establishes the Marsupial Extermination Advancement Nexus, a centralized body of information on the nature of marsupials, the dangers they pose to the inhabitants of member states, and the safest and most effective methods of neutralizing individual instances.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:13 pm

I am opposed to the hijacking of the General Assembly as a means to legitimize Fedele's violations of the Concordat. Opposed.

And yes, I will campaign against this should you submit.
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Postby Wayneactia » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:41 pm

While funny, it likely belongs here.

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Postby Kranostav » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:30 pm

Isn't this where GP jokes go to die? Especially one that is a low effort NS version of a genocide/ethnic-cleansing meme.
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:34 pm

(OOC: Joke proposal thread? Anyway, this is very funny, even without the context of Fedele and the Marsupial Hunting License.)
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Postby East Meranopirus » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:39 pm

Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: Joke proposal thread? Anyway, this is very funny, even without the context of Fedele and the Marsupial Hunting License.)

It's less funny with the context.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:36 am

Like everything else Fedele's government is doing in The East Pacific, this isn't remotely entertaining or funny. It's a no from me.

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Postby Wymondham » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:41 am

First time ever in the General Assembly and I am rather sad it has to be for this, a proposal which is not funny in any way, shape or form. TEP is literally ejecting nations in violation of its own constitution and in a way that seems aimed at reducing the guardian's influence pools so as to make it impossible for them to stop Fedele when the eventual coup comes.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:50 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Like everything else Fedele's government is doing in The East Pacific, this isn't remotely entertaining or funny. It's a no from me.

Also, hello General Assembly folks, it's been a while.

Hi, Cormac!

:hug:
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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:13 am

This is really hurtful and offensive.

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Postby GrEaT ALgErStOnIa » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:52 am

You seriously got to stop playing with that “marsupial” thing. It is not at all funny, and fairly harmful towards The East Pacific. This GA proposal has taken it too far...but then again, I thought it went too far when it all started. :p
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:18 am

OOC: I have no idea nor interest in whatever regional shenanigans spawned this, but illegal for contradiction.

EDIT: Also, were you aware that there's a GAer whose population is 30% primate and 70% marsupial? :P
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Postby Maowi » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:19 am

I know you said you're serious with this, but ... really? This isn't a joke? :unsure:

I can't in good conscience vote for this
Wallenburg wrote:Mandates the removal of some vital organ from any marsupial released from quarantine,
to become WA legislation ... well, any of it, really
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:21 am

Maowi wrote:I know you said you're serious with this, but ... really? This isn't a joke? :unsure:

OOC: Based on the comments from the not-usually-around-here people, it's something from the annoying side of the game that might have been funny there, but doesn't really work here.

*waves to Cormac anyway*
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:19 am

Araraukar wrote:OOC: I have no idea nor interest in whatever regional shenanigans spawned this, but illegal for contradiction.

Contradiction of what?
EDIT: Also, were you aware that there's a GAer whose population is 30% primate and 70% marsupial? :P

And who knows which nation will be next?
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:43 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Araraukar wrote:OOC: EDIT: Also, were you aware that there's a GAer whose population is 30% primate and 70% marsupial? :P

And who knows which nation will be next?

OOC: Annnd that makes this thread either a joke, a trolling attempt or grossly offensive, take your pick.

Genocide is bad, mmmkay?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:01 pm

OOC: please stop wasting our time with inside jokes.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:29 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:And who knows which nation will be next?

OOC: Annnd that makes this thread either a joke, a trolling attempt or grossly offensive, take your pick.

Genocide is bad, mmmkay?

OOC: You are aware that marsupials aren't actually people in real life, right? Suggesting the purging of entirely made up populations of marsupials, sapient or not, is neither trolling nor grossly offensive.

If you insist, I'll specify that this only applies to non-sapients.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:57 pm

Wallenburg wrote:OOC: You are aware that marsupials aren't actually people in real life, right? Suggesting the purging of entirely made up populations of marsupials, sapient or not, is neither trolling nor grossly offensive.

OOC: The trolling bit comes from this being some stupid GamePlay joke that's nonsensical in the GA setting.

If you insist, I'll specify that this only applies to non-sapients.

Restricting it to non-sapients is a good start, but you also have the whole "don't kill things to extinction for no reason whatsoever" issue to cope with. Also your title is misleading.
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Postby Essu Beti » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:11 pm

“Ex-fucking-scuse me!” shouts Ambassador Iksana Gayan, a marsupial, freshly returned from a family emergency and thoroughly annoyed at the horseshit that happened in his absence. “I’ll remove some vital organ from your entire delegation, by myself, with nothing more than the pure, white-hot force of my rage before I let your insulting and blatantly contradictory proposal touch my nation!”
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:55 pm

Araraukar wrote:
If you insist, I'll specify that this only applies to non-sapients.

Restricting it to non-sapients is a good start, but you also have the whole "don't kill things to extinction for no reason whatsoever" issue to cope with. Also your title is misleading.

I think the proposal speaks for itself as to the reasons to kill marsupials to extinction. Whether those are good reasons is a question for voters to decide, not GenSec.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:57 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Araraukar wrote:Restricting it to non-sapients is a good start, but you also have the whole "don't kill things to extinction for no reason whatsoever" issue to cope with. Also your title is misleading.

I think the proposal speaks for itself as to the reasons to kill marsupials to extinction. Whether those are good reasons is a question for voters to decide, not GenSec.

No. Those reasons are for me to decide when I campaign against this.

;)
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Postby Disembodied Voice » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:09 am

A voice seemingly coming out of nowhere whispered right behind the author's left ear: "Wanting to eradicate something you do not like simply because it could pose a threat to one's people, may seem like a good idea at first, but trust me, you will live the rest of your life regretting it. Ecosystems are complicated."
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Postby Marxist Germany » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:49 am

Ambassador Klaus chokes on his cup of water, "Excuse me? Are you being serious here? This proposal belongs in the clown chamber not here." He throws the proposal in his favourite spot, the paper shredder.
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Postby Maowi » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:53 am

OOC: This has already been submitted?

Edit: Isn't Ara right, though? Isn't this illegal for contradiction of GAR #465?

GAR #465 clause 2:

Charges member nations to develop and faithfully implement WAESC-approved conservation plans to protect all at-risk species within their own jurisdiction; the plan shall:
i. Provide protections designed to prevent the probability of at-risk species becoming extinct from increasing; depending on the risk of extinction, the protections can range from the continued monitoring of the at-species' population level, at the low end of risk, to preventing all possible actions that are likely to negatively impact the at-risk species in any manner, at the high end of risk, or any level of protection in between;
ii. If possible, include WAESC-supported actions that will be undertaken by the member nations such that the at-risk species can recover to the point where active protections are no longer needed, these actions might include captive breeding programs, the restoration of destroyed habitats, and/or the removal of pollution, among others;


It looks to me like the 'restricts' clause could easily lead to marsupials falling at risk of extinction by non-natural clauses, which is 465's definition of an 'at-risk species'. If this became the case, a member nation would have to abide by clause 2 of 465, quoted above: i.e. provide protections for marsupials. The 'mandates' clause, essentially mandating the killing of marsupials released from quarantine, seems irreconcilable with 'preventing the probability of at-risk species becoming extinct from increasing' and helping 'the at-risk species can recover to the point where active protections are no longer needed'.
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