[PASSED] Protection of Airspace

[United States of Americanas]

For the most part this is a well written piece of legislation with a few clauses that could use tweaking. I’ll vote in support with the expectation that a repeal and replace will be done later on with a more polished revision.

[Araraukar]

OOC: To engage in IA levels of pedantic bickering, I do believe at this point it would be possible to interpret this definition in a way that excludes virtually every major commercial airliner and modern military aircraft in the word, as none of them operate ENTIRELY under the control of the pilot at any point in time

OOC: That is the best loophole it contains, and you had to go and spoil it? (Kidding, I don't want any kind of aircraft in Araraukarian airspace that isn't Araraukarian coast guard helicopter, and will do a very broad reading instead, of that clause...)

[Kenmoria]

Even if it passes there is a loophole. It states that in order to be an aircraft, it must be controlled by a sapient bieng. So if you have robot controlled, or self-flying airplanes, then its not an aircraft and you can just bypass all of these rules!

I disagree with this notion because even if it is being self-piloted, it is still the product of other human beings belonging to a certain nation, who have programmed it to take the course of action it takes, so even if it's indirect, the nation who created such airplanes are still liable and considered an aircraft.

(OOC: They are certainly still liable, and hold ultimate responsibility, but aren’t really completely controlling the aircraft. Besides, this isn’t about the most reasonable interpretation, just an acceptable one. What this means is that any nation that wishes to declare an aircraft to necessarily not have any autopilot or computing systems, can do so with impunity.)

[Satuga]

To my fellow WA Nations I must implore the fact that this Resolution is highly corruptible and has many flaws, not only does it have various loopholes in which Nations can exploit, but it also offers a means for Nations to set up other Nations as a means to initiate an illegal war. Say a nation builds another Nations aircraft and purposely reports it as a breach of Airspace. In which because of the absolute lack of restrictions on this Resolution said nation could "respond" however they will, whether that be a casus belli, or full on Nuclear Warfare this is incredibly dangerous to the safety of weaker nations, and thus I implore you fellow nations to vote against this resolution until or if it is fixed.

“Although this proposal does have a few flaws, I do not think you are describing one of them. If a nation builds another aircraft for this nation, then it would not be anything close to a good-faith interpretation, as is required by GA #002, to declare this as a cause for war. In addition, if this proposal is not passed, then member nations will still be free to respond however they wish to an airspace intrusion.”

"Which is exactly why my nation and it's people push for a safer more well regulated version of the Resolution, we understand the importance of this Resolution however this current version is highly flawed and needs to be revised."

[Kenmoria]

“Although this proposal does have a few flaws, I do not think you are describing one of them. If a nation builds another aircraft for this nation, then it would not be anything close to a good-faith interpretation, as is required by GA #002, to declare this as a cause for war. In addition, if this proposal is not passed, then member nations will still be free to respond however they wish to an airspace intrusion.”

"Which is exactly why my nation and it's people push for a safer more well regulated version of the Resolution, we understand the importance of this Resolution however this current version is highly flawed and needs to be revised."

“The proposal at vote does not restrict you from passing further legislation about how a member nation may respond to an airspace incursion. It merely does not actively places any restrictions on how it is allowed to respond.”

[DACOROMANIA]

How do I register in the Committee ?? And what if that refuse to register me ??
For example, if for my nation population safety is to save them to outer space from a calamity on earth then I am forbidden to do so just because I'm not approved by a committee...
This resolution lacks more things still needed to solve in it.

[Kenmoria]

How do I register in the Committee ?? And what if that refuse to register me ??
For example, if for my nation population safety is to save them to outer space from a calamity on earth then I am forbidden to do so just because I'm not approved by a committee...
This resolution lacks more things still needed to solve in it.

(OOC: Don’t worry about it; it is just assumed that committees work ‘behind the scenes.’ You don’t have to roleplay or consider anything that they do. The IASA will work efficiently and incorruptibly, fulfilling this proposal’s mandates, if it passes.)

[Jasonvillee]

wait, i made a draft similar to this...i was going to make a law...but

aww man ye beat me to it gg

[Christian Confederation]

I hope this passes, because than I will not be threatened for shouting down enemy aircraft lol.

[Sunaro]

Member States should be allowed to regulate their own airspace. Forcing these laws upon us would set a dangerous precedent and inevitably will lead down a dark path where members of this assembly will have other nations choose whats best for their country.

[Elwher]

I hope this passes, because than I will not be threatened for shouting down enemy aircraft lol.

You must have a very loud voice if you can shout down aircraft.

[Araraukar]

I hope this passes, because than I will not be threatened for shouting down enemy aircraft lol.

You must have a very loud voice if you can shout down aircraft.

OOC: Or just very good amplifiers.

[Kenmoria]

Member States should be allowed to regulate their own airspace. Forcing these laws upon us would set a dangerous precedent and inevitably will lead down a dark path where members of this assembly will have other nations choose whats best for their country.

(OOC: That is the point of the World Assembly. The ‘dark path’ to which you are referring has been met many times by a lot of resolutions. In comparison to others, this is very mild in what it forces upon member states.)

[Prritain]

This is Ok, even though it has a lot of loopholes, for a first try, but what i say is, NO ONE TELLS ME WHERE I CAN BE TERRITORIAL ABOUT AIRSPACE!
Hail the confederation!

[Iciaros]

OOC: To engage in IA levels of pedantic bickering, I do believe at this point it would be possible to interpret this definition in a way that excludes virtually every major commercial airliner and modern military aircraft in the word, as none of them operate ENTIRELY under the control of the pilot at any point in time

OOC: That is the best loophole it contains, and you had to go and spoil it? (Kidding, I don't want any kind of aircraft in Araraukarian airspace that isn't Araraukarian coast guard helicopter, and will do a very broad reading instead, of that clause...)

OOC: This loophole was why I voted against, but hey, if it's going to pass at least I won't actually have to do anything, since it's common sense for aircraft to have things like autopilot or even aerial stabilisers. With regards to the loophole, I didn't even read it as strictly as Des did - it seems reasonable to say that it must be a characteristic of the vehicle to be absolutely entirely controlled by sapients, not merely that it can be sometimes entirely controlled.

[Kenmoria]

This is Ok, even though it has a lot of loopholes, for a first try, but what i say is, NO ONE TELLS ME WHERE I CAN BE TERRITORIAL ABOUT AIRSPACE!
Hail the confederation!

(OOC: The WA can. That is it its job. People really ought to stop relying on national sovereignty without supporting arguments as a reason for opposing proposals.)

[Dommeperackerry]

An "aircraft" as an object capable of flight, controlled entirely by sapient beings;

So we are to allow craft otherwise not controlled by sapient beings? What of AI-drones?

[Kenmoria]

An "aircraft" as an object capable of flight, controlled entirely by sapient beings;

So we are to allow craft otherwise not controlled by sapient beings? What of AI-drones?

(OOC: You are correct. That is a major loophole in the proposal at vote.)

[Maowi]

So we are to allow craft otherwise not controlled by sapient beings? What of AI-drones?

(OOC: You are correct. That is a major loophole in the proposal at vote.)

'Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see anything in the proposal which bans member nations from imposing restrictions on craft not controlled by sentients, or which prevents another delegation from proposing a draft on the subject of A.I.-controlled aircraft.'

[Kenmoria]

(OOC: You are correct. That is a major loophole in the proposal at vote.)

'Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see anything in the proposal which bans member nations from imposing restrictions on craft not controlled by sentients, or which prevents another delegation from proposing a draft on the subject of A.I.-controlled aircraft.'

“You are correct; there is nothing stopping a delegation from making a separate proposal about aircraft not entirely controlled by sapient beings. However, this hypothetical proposal would have quite a narrow subject matter on which to legislate, to avoid duplication, and there are additional flaws in the current proposal at vote.”

[Northern Forestavia]

Member States should be allowed to regulate their own airspace. Forcing these laws upon us would set a dangerous precedent and inevitably will lead down a dark path where members of this assembly will have other nations choose whats best for their country.

That's usually the position I take on these matters. I usually vote against everything except for repeals. But I don't feel particularly threatened or oppressed by this one. My nation will vote in favor for now. It seems this law actually strengthens the sovereignty of nations by setting clear airspace boundaries and promotes peace as a bonus.
[The Ambassador glances over the Resolution again.]
What do you see specifically that would endanger your nation's sovereignty? I'm open to changing my vote.

[East Meranopirus]

Thank you to everyone who has supported me in passing this resolution.

But alas, I think we can all see a repeal coming...which got me thinking, why can't I write a repeal myself?

[Jocospor]

*the telephones and fax machines are going berserk* Hello...yes, ye- What? No! We don't care who does it, get someone to repeal this damn thing! That's right, it's an abomination! ABOMINATION!! *slam*

[Kenmoria]

Thank you to everyone who has supported me in passing this resolution.

But alas, I think we can all see a repeal coming...which got me thinking, why can't I write a repeal myself?

(OOC: You can, but it may be perceived as badge-hunting, especially if you replace it later. That gives you three resolutions passed instead of one. I suggest working with somebody else and letting them submit it, or leaving it for another player to do.)

[East Meranopirus]

(OOC: You can, but it may be perceived as badge-hunting, especially if you replace it later. That gives you three resolutions passed instead of one. I suggest working with somebody else and letting them submit it, or leaving it for another player to do.)

Well, I guess I'll just wait for Imperium Anglorum to submit it. I'll have a replacement ready the moment he submits that.