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[Draft] Repeal: Preventing the Execution of Innocents

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Kenmoria
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Postby Kenmoria » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:49 am

“Although I do agree with the spirit of the first clause, I can’t agree with its wording. The target resolution does, in fact, prevent the execution of innocents, since it pretty much requires the prevention of executions full stop. Due to the sole amount of evidence and various unprovable standards, I doubt a single legitimate case of capital punishment can occur.”
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:57 pm

Kenmoria wrote:“Although I do agree with the spirit of the first clause, I can’t agree with its wording. The target resolution does, in fact, prevent the execution of innocents, since it pretty much requires the prevention of executions full stop. Due to the sole amount of evidence and various unprovable standards, I doubt a single legitimate case of capital punishment can occur.”


"My instincts are clamoring for a baby/bathwater comparison. Or maybe something like:

Deploring the target resolution's ham-handed approach to wrongful conviction, akin to thinking that the best way to avoid traffic accidents is to tear up all the roads...

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Postby Tinfect » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:20 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:“Although I do agree with the spirit of the first clause, I can’t agree with its wording. The target resolution does, in fact, prevent the execution of innocents, since it pretty much requires the prevention of executions full stop. Due to the sole amount of evidence and various unprovable standards, I doubt a single legitimate case of capital punishment can occur.”


"My instincts are clamoring for a baby/bathwater comparison. Or maybe something like:
Deploring the target resolution's ham-handed approach to wrongful conviction, akin to thinking that the best way to avoid traffic accidents is to tear up all the roads...
"Although my preamble clauses are frequently far too flowery for full fruition, so take that with a grain and a half of salt."


"These are valid concerns, and the Imperium thanks the delegation of Sierra Lyricalia for it suggestion. The draft will be amended."
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Postby Tinfect » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:49 am

OOC:
Barring any last-minute concerns, I am moving forward with submission this week. Unless I forget. At which point, someone please remind me.
The proposed replacement is here.
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Postby Kenmoria » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:58 am

Tinfect wrote:OOC:
Barring any last-minute concerns, I am moving forward with submission this week. Unless I forget. At which point, someone please remind me.
The proposed replacement is here.

(OOC: Will the submitted version include SL’s suggestion, as suggested by your above post?)
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
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Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:00 am

Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: Will the submitted version include SL’s suggestion, as suggested by your above post?)


OOC:
And there's one of those last minute concerns I was talking about - yes, I couldn't leave that line out, it's incredible.
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Postby Tinfect » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:05 am

OOC:
Given that the other draft of this sort has been placed on hold, I figured now is the time to revive this one.
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