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[REPLACEMENT] Convention on Reproductive Rights

Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:09 pm

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Category: Human Rights | Strength: Mild | Proposed by: United Massachusetts

Acknowledging its commitment to ensuring that women retain sovereignty over their own bodies, a principle affirmed in not one, but two resolutions,

Seeking, however, to ensure that the World Assembly acts within its limited power and in accordance with the principle of subsidiarity on such a controversial issue where both sides hold strong ethical and moral values,

Believing that significant progress can be made in advancing the cause of women's rights while still respecting cultural differences on the issue,

Noting that extant World Assembly resolutions already permit abortions in cases of rape, incest, fetal abnormality, and danger to the life of the mother,

The General Assembly, hoping to put this issue to rest and secure real, lasting progress:

  1. Defines, for the sake of this resolution, the following terms:

    1. "abortion" as an induced termination of pregnancy that is intended to result (or is reasonably expected to result) and that does, in fact, result in the death of one or more offspring,
    2. "abortion provider" as any medical professional performing abortions,
    3. "abortion clinic" as any medical facility which provides abortion services,
  2. Mandates that member nations provide legal protection against targeted harassment and intimidation against individuals who procure abortions, abortion providers, or anyone involved in the process of abortion,

  3. Prohibits member nations from prosecuting, imprisoning, or otherwise punishing by law an individual for procuring an abortion,

  4. Requires member nations to permit individuals who are otherwise in compliance with customs and immigration law to travel to other nations for the purposes of procuring an abortion, and to return to their home country without fear of harassment, legal or otherwise,

  5. Declares that no member nation shall enact disproportionate regulation on abortion clinics in relation to the complexity and risk associated with abortion procedures,

  6. Requires member nations that legalize only the World Assembly mandatory minimum of abortion rights, in order to combat stunning hypocrisy, to make available to the public relevant adoptive, welfare, and social services, as well as the legal availability of contraceptive access,

  7. Clarifies that any individual who has suffered complications from a procured abortion, legal or otherwise, shall be afforded proper medical treatment for said complication free of cost and without harassment, legal or otherwise,

  8. Declares that subject to the mandates of this legislation and prior, unrepealed legislation, member nations shall retain the ability to determine the legal status of abortion within their own jurisdiction.

Co-authored by: Auralia

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Postby Castle Federation » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:25 pm

A proposal that is thoughtful and worth the consideration of every WA member. I fully support this proposal.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:29 pm

No thanks.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:33 pm

Tinhampton is, as with the Ban on Conversion Therapy, ICly AGAINST (on the grounds that - per Delegate-Ambassador Alexander Smith - "this is essentially Reproductive Freedoms without the mandatory abortion clinics") but OOCly for.
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:50 pm

If this says that women have soveirnty over their bodies then y does it let nations choose the legal status of abortion? In either case, I think the WA should take a firm stance on abortion. There r high tense issues and it shouldn't back down from ruling either way
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Postby Kenmoria » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:56 am

“Perhaps surprisingly, we find nothing overly objectionable in this draft, and support it. Clause 8 is the biggest issue, and the one that I strongly suspect your delegation won’t alter, but it allows pro-choice nations to exist and the previous clauses stop a radical pro-life stance, so isn’t a dealbreaker.”
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Postby Uan aa Boa » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:26 am

Definition 1a seems to define a delivery by Caesarian section, as well as induction of labour, to be an abortion.

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Postby Aclion » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:43 am

Uan aa Boa wrote:Definition 1a seems to define a delivery by Caesarian section, as well as induction of labour, to be an abortion.

Regular birth falls under it as well :o

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Postby Uan aa Boa » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:59 am

I wasn't sure whether regular birth counted as intentional. You would have thought that having devoted so much time to the issue of abortion its opponents might be in a position to say what it is.

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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:13 am

Uan aa Boa wrote:I wasn't sure whether regular birth counted as intentional. You would have thought that having devoted so much time to the issue of abortion its opponents might be in a position to say what it is.

It's a rough draft. Certainly a better definition than "termination of pregnancy."
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Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:53 am

United Massachusetts wrote:
Uan aa Boa wrote:I wasn't sure whether regular birth counted as intentional. You would have thought that having devoted so much time to the issue of abortion its opponents might be in a position to say what it is.

It's a rough draft. Certainly a better definition than "termination of pregnancy."


Perhaps: '"abortion" as the intentional termination of pregnancy by any means other than birth' or something similar. I am uncertain, grammatically, if that would still include a caesarean sections or not, but it should at least make in unambiguous in regards to regular birth.

Personally, I would prefer something like: 'abortion' as the intentional termination of pregnancy by any means resulting in the death of the child as a result of the means employed. However, that is a lot of words, and would probably be criticized for using the word child.

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:03 am

"I fixed this part for you, ambassador - someone had removed the head gasket and half the spark plugs from this clause. But now it's good as new! No need to thank me, I'm just doing my job."

Urges Requires member nations that legalize only the World Assembly mandatory minimum of abortion rights to make available to the public relevant contraceptive access, sexual education, adoptive services, and welfare services so as to reduce the number of unneeded abortions, stunning hypocrisy quotient


"If you're wondering why qualify it to only the most restrictive nations, well, generally speaking the nations with freer abortion rights also have better adoption services and more contraceptive availability anyway. It's really only the theocracies and moralizing republics that are deficient in that area. But that piece can be taken out without any trouble."

"Oh, and you can probably remove sex ed from the list. That's already required reading across the World Assembly."
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Postby Old Hope » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:54 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
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Convention on Reproductive Rights
Category: Human Rights | Strength: Mild | Proposed by: United Massachusetts

Acknowledging its commitment to ensuring that women retain sovereignty over their own bodies, a principle affirmed in not one, but two resolutions,

Seeking, however, to ensure that the World Assembly acts within its limited power and in accordance with the principle of subsidiarity on such a controversial issue where both sides hold strong ethical and moral values,

Believing that significant progress can be made in advancing the cause of womens' rights while still respecting cultural differences on the issue,

The General Assembly, hoping to put this issue to rest and secure real, lasting progress:

  1. Defines, for the sake of this resolution, the following terms:

    1. "abortion" as the intentional termination of pregnancy prior to or during the process of birth,
    2. "abortion provider" as any medical professional performing abortions,
    3. "abortion clinic" as any medical facility which provides abortion services,
  2. Mandates that member nations provide legal protection against targeted and violent action that targets individuals who procure abortions, abortion providers, or anyone involved in the process of abortion.
  3. Prohibits member nations from prosecuting, imprisoning, or otherwise punishing by law an individual for procuring an abortion, unless this abortion is prohibited by this resolution

  4. Requires member nations to permit individuals who are otherwise in compliance with customs and immigration law to travel to other nations for the purposes of procuring an abortion not prohibited by this resolution

  5. Reaffirms that no member nation shall criminalise abortion when performed as a consequence of rape, incest, danger to the life of an individual procuring abortion, or fetal abnormality,

  6. Declares that no member nation shall enact disproportionate regulation on abortion clinics in relation to the complexity and risk associated with abortion procedures,

  7. Urges member nations to make available to the public relevant contraceptive access, sexual education, adoptive services, and welfare services so as to reduce the number of unneeded abortions,

  8. Declares that subject to the mandates of this legislation and prior, unrepealed legislation, member nations shall retain the ability to determine the legal status of abortion within their own jurisdiction.

  9. Requires member nations to forbid abortion methods when all of the following apply:
    A.The potential offspring is, with proper care, viable outside of pregnancy.
    B.The reason for abortion is not covered in Clause 5 of this resolution.
    C.The potential offspring will have a significantly increased risk to be permanently disabled or killed due to the selected method of termination.
    D.The termination of pregnancy could be achieved by other methods - to which at least one of A, B and C does not apply - with the same or lower risks of death or permanent injury for the pregnant individual.

Coauthored by: @Auralia.

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Postby East Gondwana » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:51 pm

"Not all individuals subject to WA legislation, including legislation relating reproductive health and rights, are "women". Also, this would require a repeal of perfectly adequate existing legislation, legislation which is historically very strongly supported when it comes to vote."
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Postby Prydania » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:24 am

No.

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The Federation Of Felrik cannot abide by this convention as it stands.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:54 am

“Clause 2 is a bit vague, specifically ‘anyone involved in the process of abortion’. This could mean a variety of things depending on how abstract one considers the involvement required to come under this clause.”
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:02 am

Kenmoria wrote:“Clause 2 is a bit vague, specifically ‘anyone involved in the process of abortion’. This could mean a variety of things depending on how abstract one considers the involvement required to come under this clause.”


"This is a feature, not a bug - or if it's a bug, that's bad and it needs to become a feature. The degree of involvement in abortion procedures necessary to make one a target of pro-birth harrassment is extremely small. So anyone even remotely involved deserves legal protection."

"While we're at it, I notice that the wording of Clause 2 is too stringent. Illegal harrassment and intimidation can be carried out without actually committing assault: so would you please replace the words 'and violent' with something like 'extralegal' or 'intimidating' or some similarly broad language."
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Postby Prydania » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:13 pm

My major issue with this resolution, aside from the fact that I don't believe it is necessary, is that it fails to properly protect abortion providers from harassment. Legal or otherwise.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:29 pm

A better definition of abortion would be: "an induced termination of pregnancy that is intended to result (or is reasonably expected to result) and that does, in fact, result in the death of one or more offspring."
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Postby United Massachusetts » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:17 pm

I am going to amend this significantly. I'd appreciate input from pro-choice individuals; I want this to be a compromise that most can get behind. Of course, some don't want to do so, but I'd be happy to take input even from them.
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Postby Auze » Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:28 pm

"abortion" as the intentional termination of pregnancy through destruction of the Fetus prior to or during the process of birth,

We have suggested a change to make it not count natural birth or surgical.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:37 pm

Auze wrote:
"abortion" as the intentional termination of pregnancy through destruction of the Fetus prior to or during the process of birth,

We have suggested a change to make it not count natural birth or surgical.

That will come in the changes. :)
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Postby United Massachusetts » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:13 pm

I have made significant edits:
  1. People seeking abortion abroad, we clarify, shan't be subject to harassment or intimidation
  2. Made SL's suggestion, but not wholly. I don't think it would be fair to mandate state-funded contraception in a bill on abortion, but I will say that they have to at least make contraception legal.
  3. Requires states to give free medical care to those who got complications from abortion, back-alley or not

I still have significant edits to make. Please keep the input coming.
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Postby New Gren Artle » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:22 pm

“Requires member nations to forbid abortion methods when all of the following apply:
A.The potential offspring is, with proper care, viable outside of pregnancy.
B.The reason for abortion is not covered in Clause 5 of this resolution.
C.The potential offspring will have a significantly increased risk to be permanently disabled or killed due to the selected method of termination.
D.The termination of pregnancy could be achieved by other methods - to which at least one of A, B and C does not apply - with the same or lower risks of death or permanent injury for the pregnant individual.”

I do not agree with this. This totally disregards a woman’s right to choose what she wants to do with her pregnancy. Everything else is fine with me. If this is a part of the proposal, I will vote against.

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