The American South As A Russian Protectorate

[Yagon]

It's probably silly for a lot of reasons, the very premise, but that said, a drunk Viet Nam vet at a bar just told me that a group with 16 chapters in Southern States of the US has stated formally they consider themselves the natural ally of Russia 'cause Russians are white apparently, or white enough, and they're Christian, apparently, or Christian enough, and mostly though the Russians are willing to fight the Muslims and would happily provide minefields and snipers for an ally's Southern border.

So they're basically saying they want to remnants of the Confederacy to defect to Russia.

This seems less plausible than Californian secession, and also less plausible than ancient aliens building Machu Pichu.

But suppose it were up to a vote in those confederate states, and they really could defect to the Russian side en masse.

What percentage could they get?

I'm betting less than 15%.

If Trump endorsed it, may 51% with margin for deliberate interference.

You're opinion?

[Bakery Hill]

Don't make this a meme for the lanyard types, please.

[Sovaal]

It's probably silly for a lot of reasons, the very premise, but that said, a drunk Viet Nam vet at a bar just told me that a group with 16 chapters in Southern States of the US has stated formally they consider themselves the natural ally of Russia 'cause Russians are white apparently, or white enough, and they're Christian, apparently, or Christian enough, and mostly though the Russians are willing to fight the Muslims and would happily provide minefields and snipers for an ally's Southern border.

So they're basically saying they want to remnants of the Confederacy to defect to Russia.

This seems less plausible than Californian secession, and also less plausible than ancient aliens building Machu Pichu.

But suppose it were up to a vote in those confederate states, and they really could defect to the Russian side en masse.

What percentage could they get?

I'm betting less than 15%.

If Trump endorsed it, may 51% with margin for deliberate interference.

You're opinion?

Im unaware of any substantial secessionist movements anywhere in the country, let alone the South. Anyway, don't see as to how the South is a 'natural ally' to Russia. This is just white supremacists being dumbasses because their idealogly is becomeing more and more outdated every year, even in the South.

E; Also, why would the South b the protectorate here? They'd be richer than Russia.

[Yagon]

It's probably silly for a lot of reasons, the very premise, but that said, a drunk Viet Nam vet at a bar just told me that a group with 16 chapters in Southern States of the US has stated formally they consider themselves the natural ally of Russia 'cause Russians are white apparently, or white enough, and they're Christian, apparently, or Christian enough, and mostly though the Russians are willing to fight the Muslims and would happily provide minefields and snipers for an ally's Southern border.

So they're basically saying they want to remnants of the Confederacy to defect to Russia.

This seems less plausible than Californian secession, and also less plausible than ancient aliens building Machu Pichu.

But suppose it were up to a vote in those confederate states, and they really could defect to the Russian side en masse.

What percentage could they get?

I'm betting less than 15%.

If Trump endorsed it, may 51% with margin for deliberate interference.

You're opinion?

Im unaware of any substantial secessionist movements anywhere in the country, let alone the South. Anyway, don't see as to how the South is a 'natural ally' to Russia. This is just white supremacists being dumbasses because their idealogly is becomeing more and more outdated every year, even in the South.

E; Also, why would the South b the protectorate here? They'd be richer than Russia.

Suppose their support was aligned very much with white supremacists being dumbasses. How much support is that in the South?

I really hope 15% or less, but I dunno.

Russia can exist independently from the US, but a separated South could not survive without support from Russia. The Chinese are too brown for the white supremacists being dumbasses.

[Yagon]

Don't make this a meme for the lanyard types, please.

What's a lanyard type?

[Sovaal]

Im unaware of any substantial secessionist movements anywhere in the country, let alone the South. Anyway, don't see as to how the South is a 'natural ally' to Russia. This is just white supremacists being dumbasses because their idealogly is becomeing more and more outdated every year, even in the South.

E; Also, why would the South b the protectorate here? They'd be richer than Russia.

Suppose their support was aligned very much with white supremacists being dumbasses. How much support is that in the South?

Very little if any.

I really hope 15% or less, but I dunno.

The most popular secessionist movement is Texas, and last I checked it wasn't even a whole 1% of the Texan population who supported them.

Russia can exist independently from the US, but a separated South could not survive without support from Russia. The Chinese are too brown for the white supremacists being dumbasses.

The Russians couldnt do shit for the South, just like Britian and France couldnt do anything for them.

[Bakery Hill]

Don't make this a meme for the lanyard types, please.

What's a lanyard type?

Centrist establishment liberal types, usually young professionals, often associated with politics and public service, hence the lanyard.

As another put it:

Lanyards are DC dickheads who take special pride in their press or security lanyard, refer to themselves and their peers as "wonks," go on amphetemine+beer fueled twitter game theory rants, etc.

[Sovaal]

What's a lanyard type?

Centrist establishment liberal types, usually young professionals, often associated with politics and public service, hence the lanyard.

As another put it:

Lanyards are DC dickheads who take special pride in their press or security lanyard, refer to themselves and their peers as "wonks," go on amphetemine+beer fueled twitter game theory rants, etc.

Yah learn every day.

[-United Republic of Freedonia]

No russians on my hemisphere. It's more better look on Iowa tiring to secede (really, keep an eye on these dildy doos)

Also, last time i read that the Russikes aren't white (on the eyes on the by-the-book racist).

[Sovaal]

No russians on my hemisphere. It's more better look on Iowa tiring to secede (really, keep an eye on these dildy doos)

Also, last time i read that the Russikes aren't white (on the eyes on the by-the-book racist).

I dunno, most neo-nazis have seemed to have welcomed them into the fold.

[Khataiy]

No russians on my hemisphere. It's more better look on Iowa tiring to secede (really, keep an eye on these dildy doos)

Also, last time i read that the Russikes aren't white (on the eyes on the by-the-book racist).

I dunno, most neo-nazis have seemed to have welcomed them into the fold.

the original Nazis didn't and I'm sure a good amount of those anti-interracial marriage people upon finding out what biologically impure people Russians are they might reconsider calling them white or even human, than again I suppose in their eyes it's better than black or Hispanic or Arab or whatever.

[Bakery Hill]

The ideological white nationalist types generally consider the Russians as good whites now, likewise with Greeks and Italians etc. The people who deny that are generally the old school fringe of that fringe. At any rate, thinking that the American South is the exclusive preserve of these types is a little sheltered. The 90s white nationalist revival was far bigger on the West Coast than elsewhere.

[-United Republic of Freedonia]

I dunno, most neo-nazis have seemed to have welcomed them into the fold.

Today's Neo-nazi view on X and Y race are just a mess. With Nazi slavs praising Mr. "I want to turn the slav horde into slaves" Hitler, nazis in latin america and asia and shit. Thanks to the dark gods that people isn't stupid to support them.

I read somewhere that the Nazis believied that the Iranians were "a lost Aryan people" and that Hitler said before killing himself that the Russians because they defeated him and were more strong during the war, they were a superior race as the Germans. I'm not sure about those things.

[Yagon]

The ideological white nationalist types generally consider the Russians as good whites now, likewise with Greeks and Italians etc. The people who deny that are generally the old school fringe of that fringe. At any rate, thinking that the American South is the exclusive preserve of these types is a little sheltered. The 90s white nationalist revival was far bigger on the West Coast than elsewhere.

This reminds me of Life o Brian where the radical group has a rival break-off group and a mutually hated break-off break-off group.

[Bakery Hill]

The ideological white nationalist types generally consider the Russians as good whites now, likewise with Greeks and Italians etc. The people who deny that are generally the old school fringe of that fringe. At any rate, thinking that the American South is the exclusive preserve of these types is a little sheltered. The 90s white nationalist revival was far bigger on the West Coast than elsewhere.

This reminds me of Life o Brian where the radical group has a rival break-off group and a mutually hated break-off break-off group.

It's more commonly associated with the far left, but you really get this sort of purity politics whenever your political scene, whatever it is, is powerless and demoralised.

[Yagon]

This reminds me of Life o Brian where the radical group has a rival break-off group and a mutually hated break-off break-off group.

It's more commonly associated with the far left, but you really get this sort of purity politics whenever your political scene, whatever it is, is powerless and demoralised.

Apparently they're calling themselves the League of the South (probably not the first to do so, and probably many members who have been members of many now defunct groups).

[Bakery Hill]

It's more commonly associated with the far left, but you really get this sort of purity politics whenever your political scene, whatever it is, is powerless and demoralised.

Apparently they're calling themselves the League of the South (probably not the first to do so, and probably many members who have been members of many now defunct groups).

They're an old 90s gen group who used to have some influence and connections with prominent figures. Odd people. Thought they were dead.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

It's probably silly for a lot of reasons, the very premise, but that said, a drunk...

Why should anyone pounder what a drunk guy said? As for the notion, not going to happen.

[San Marlindo]

It's probably silly for a lot of reasons, the very premise, but that said, a drunk Viet Nam vet at a bar just told me that a group with 16 chapters in Southern States of the US has stated formally they consider themselves the natural ally of Russia 'cause Russians are white apparently, or white enough, and they're Christian, apparently, or Christian enough, and mostly though the Russians are willing to fight the Muslims and would happily provide minefields and snipers for an ally's Southern border.

So they're basically saying they want to remnants of the Confederacy to defect to Russia.

This seems less plausible than Californian secession, and also less plausible than ancient aliens building Machu Pichu.

But suppose it were up to a vote in those confederate states, and they really could defect to the Russian side en masse.

What percentage could they get?

I'm betting less than 15%.

If Trump endorsed it, may 51% with margin for deliberate interference.

You're opinion?

Baloney. It's like people forgot the Cold War even existed. My father's family is about as old school Southern as they come, and when I visit with them they still associate Russia with communism and being an evil empire. Especially since it's being run by an ex KGB agent who called the fall of the Soviet Union the greatest disaster of the twentieth century. Once in a while my father still slips up and calls Russians Soviets.

Back during the Cold War, no Republican ever looked at the Soviet Union and said, "hey! we have a lot in common!" Despite the fact that to an uninformed observer there are some superficial similarities, including a love for the military, social conservatism, and emphasis on nationalism. They were still the enemy.

It's baffling to me now how people in America can look at the corrupt mob state run by Putin with a heavily over-regulated pseudo socialist economy inherited from the Soviets and think conservative Southerners want any thing to do with it. An unfree place with comparatively restrictive gun registration, where people disappear off the streets for being critical of the man in charge. Decades of Cold War rhetoric have also shaped attitudes on foreign policy in the South much more heavily than they did the North and the Midwest, meaning there's a lot of stigma attached to communism, socialism, and Russia and Red China.

[Sufokia]

a drunk Viet Nam vet at a bar just told me

Great start to a thread.

[Hammer Britannia]

1. Trump wouldn't endorse any (American) succession.
2. Not even 15% of the entire South US wants to succeed, let alone become a Russian Puppet.
3. You really shouldn't make threads about what a drunk guy said. (Then again, by that logic I shouldn't make any threads)

[Uxupox]

It's probably silly for a lot of reasons, the very premise, but that said, a drunk Viet Nam vet at a bar just told me that a group with 16 chapters in Southern States of the US has stated formally they consider themselves the natural ally of Russia 'cause Russians are white apparently, or white enough, and they're Christian, apparently, or Christian enough, and mostly though the Russians are willing to fight the Muslims and would happily provide minefields and snipers for an ally's Southern border.

So they're basically saying they want to remnants of the Confederacy to defect to Russia.

This seems less plausible than Californian secession, and also less plausible than ancient aliens building Machu Pichu.

But suppose it were up to a vote in those confederate states, and they really could defect to the Russian side en masse.

What percentage could they get?

I'm betting less than 15%.

If Trump endorsed it, may 51% with margin for deliberate interference.

You're opinion?

im betting less than .001 %

[Blakk Metal]

If Trump endorsed it, may 51% with margin for deliberate interference.

Why a president from New York support Southern secession?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

1% beacuse they would know better then to spit from the union.

[Sufokia]

If Trump endorsed it, may 51% with margin for deliberate interference.

Why a president from New York support Southern secession?

Sensationalism to some, it would seem. The equal and opposite person to someone who would support some sort of bizarre Trump secession scheme would probably be someone who thinks it's worthy news that Trump gets two scoops of ice cream.