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Kylia Quilor
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:52 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Kylia Quilor wrote:I'm more interested in tying the resistance to Unibot's record of miserable failures in manipulating the GCRs to his ends.

Right? Leave that to all the other people manipulating the GCRs. It's only okay when they do it! :D

Again, the key words there were 'miserable failures'. Unibot had few lasting successes in his efforts to turn the GCRs. Even TSP's eventual turn doesn't own much to his efforts. So by tying the resistance to his failure, I'm tying them to failure in general.

I may not take an actual side, but I can't say I'm a fan of the people leading the Resistance. Not one bit. :p
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Kylia Quilor
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:54 pm

Ikania wrote:
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There is a place for that, and Nationstates.net isn't that place.

I'm not going to use accusations of OOC misconduct to bash my IC political rivals with and I refuse to play into such petty tactics.

It hasn't stopped your surrogates so far.

Just as you guys can't control Unibot from speaking in your favor, the Triumvirate doesn't control everyone who speaks in their favor (or just against their opponents.) Cormac is hardly their 'surrogate'.
Unfocused populism is just as dangerous, if not more so, to an elected government's wellbeing as creeping authoritarianism.
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Postby Canton Empire » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:55 pm

Kylia Quilor wrote:
Ikania wrote:It hasn't stopped your surrogates so far.

Just as you guys can't control Unibot from speaking in your favor, the Triumvirate doesn't control everyone who speaks in their favor (or just against their opponents.) Cormac is hardly their 'surrogate'.

Key difference is that these accusations came straight from the Triumvirate.
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Solorni
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Postby Solorni » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:58 pm

So do we get to know who helped organize the recent attack... or not?
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Postby Escade » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:18 pm

Solorni wrote:So do we get to know who helped organize the recent attack... or not?


The Honest Defender, of course :roll:

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Postby Solorni » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:30 pm

One interesting thing I've noticed is that there are a good chunk of independents who don't like their hands dirty over a year of being perceived as hypocrites. Yet, defenders who play international politics as a general rule of thumb are never hindered by such concerns. Find me a major political defender who holds back from manipulating regions for their interests who speaks out against such things or feels the smallest smidgen of remorse .
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Postby Manaime » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:49 pm

Escade wrote:If only things were so simple in NS that there was such a clear line between IC and OOC and no one had ever crossed any such lines. Or attempted to use them as political tools.

Once more it becomes a game of slinging "not us..you..."

In war there is weariness...that much is certain. One would think at the rate of dead horses being beaten, all that has been left to think and say in the world has been exhausted. At this point, I'd welcome some RP about this situation over the continued reruns.



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Moric Benyovszky
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Postby Moric Benyovszky » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:00 pm

Escade wrote:One would think at the rate of dead horses being beaten

Escade wrote:AKA dead horses etc etc.

Don't worry, little horsey not everyone intends to bespoil your beautiful spirit

Aye, so in effect beating a dead horse ^


Horses are such beautiful creatures. It's a tragedy really.

AFAIK, the topic of Unibot as brought up by imperialists when they have nothing else to comment on has gotten old - probably to the "beating a dead horse" levels.


The only dead horse being beaten here is in your own usage of the expression, Escade.
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Postby Solorni » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:18 pm

Given Escade's literal obsession with dead horses... I have to wonder if she is running a glue factory or something irl. That just is not right.
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Postby Funkadelia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:25 pm

Solorni wrote:Given Escade's literal obsession with dead horses... I have to wonder if she is running a glue factory or something irl. That just is not right.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:23 am

*grumblemutternotthisshitagain* Standby.

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Postby Escade » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:49 pm

Solorni wrote:snip


*covers my horsies ears...*

Leave it to Rach to want to take my precious stallion and turn it into glue. Wicked witchy :O

Stay away from my horsey....I have my heart - my horse - and my crossbow from some posts earlier... and this expression as we ride:
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Postby Rolandarmstrong » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:23 pm

Whatever Escade's obsession is, it's probably not stupid . . .
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