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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:35 am

OOC: I'll miss the vote on this one, but support anyway, and good luck. :)
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:02 am

At vote.

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Postby Radicaster » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:28 am

Definitely gonna vote FOR.

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Postby Europe and Oceania » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:33 am

We voted against this neo-liberal garbage.
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Postby Railb » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:34 am

We stand by Algorenia. The Commonwealth will not support this repeal.

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Postby Railb » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:35 am

Europe and Oceania wrote:We voted against this neo-liberal garbage.


What's wrong with 'neoliberalism'?

Our government IS proudly neo-liberal!

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:57 am

Europe and Oceania wrote:We voted against this neo-liberal garbage.


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Postby Tretrid » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:20 am

I vote FOR, for the reasons I supported this draft.
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Postby Ceaga » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:13 pm

Oh boy, it was about time this resolution --that served no other object than giving the author a NS badge-- got repealed.

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Postby Mundiferrum » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:56 pm

Forks. Although it would make for a more interesting vote, I think, if the author didn't vote for this.
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:49 pm

Europe and Oceania wrote:We voted against this neo-liberal garbage.

Neville: This is a repeal, Ambassador. This doesn't introduce any "neo-liberal" legislation.

Fairburn: Also, justify your opinion once in a while. We don't need your Delegation to come here every time it casts a vote.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:40 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Fairburn: Also, justify your opinion once in a while. We don't need your Delegation to come here every time it casts a vote.

"Indeed. Especially since it can be assumed with a high degree of accuracy that their delegation voted the opposite way our delegation did." Blackbourne adds. "Excidium Planetis casts its vote For."
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Postby Appalachia » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:56 pm

And whereas the use of the phrase 'the disabled' dehumanises persons living with disabilities, reducing them to be a problem to be normalised or 'solved' whilst subsuming their identities into a single aspect of their personhood:


I find it extremely difficult to believe that the author of this repeal gives a damn about respect, considering how this:

this resolution effectively forces members to provide accommodations and various support groups in all places of education, both public and private, imposing huge costs which (for private systems especially) would be difficult or impossible to bear,


section reduces people with disabilities to how much of a monetary burden they are on governments.

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Postby Wales1 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:27 pm

Wrapper wrote:Well, for what it's worth, I switch mine to no.

Me also

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:59 pm

Appalachia wrote:
this resolution effectively forces members to provide accommodations and various support groups in all places of education, both public and private, imposing huge costs which (for private systems especially) would be difficult or impossible to bear,

section reduces people with disabilities to how much of a monetary burden they are on governments.


"Governments are already required to provide welfare for the disabled and treat the disabled equally with all other citizens. Requiring extra expenditures for small, specialized education centers to provide for every aform of disability is excessive and helps no one."
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Postby Ecumenopolis-V » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:28 am

It is the view of His Majesty's Government that the Disabled in Academia Resolution (GA#404) is a legislative bulwark in ensuring that the rights of differently abled people are protected in so far as their education is concerned. The Resolution was consequently implemented by His Majesty via the Educational Access Order No.1 (Rights of Persons with Different Abilities). With reference to the question of repealing Resolution #404 His Majesty's Government is of the opinion that GA #404 does not in any way restrict the rights of member nations to:

-Separate differently abled students from the main education system
-Provide for special schools
-Include learning disabilities within the ambit of the Definition.
-Exempt private sector from the ambit of the required legislation


In The Crown v. Ms.X [2017] CA 202, our Court of Appeal included learning disabilities within the ambit of the term mental condition thereby extending the Order to persons having learning problems as well.

Accordingly, it is our considered view that the resolution at vote is premature as there is still a lot of time that is going to be required for the assembly to assess how viable or effective GA#404 really is. Therefore His Majesty's Government will vote against the resolution to repeal GA#404 and in the event, GA#404 is repealed the Educational Access Order No.1 (Rights of Persons with Different Abilities) will continue to remain good law within His Majesty's Empire, Realms, and Dominions.



Sincerely


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Postby Dayuki » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:27 am

I am fully in favor

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Postby Europe and Oceania » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:20 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Europe and Oceania wrote:We voted against this neo-liberal garbage.


"Attempting to hold international law to basic standards of comprehensiveness and effectiveness is now 'neoliberal garbage?' Christ, I hope you have some rage to spare for actual capitalists, otherwise you're gonna burn out awfully quick, Ambassador."


Of course, I do, comrade. But I also despise neo-liberals as well.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:08 am

Europe and Oceania wrote:
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
"Attempting to hold international law to basic standards of comprehensiveness and effectiveness is now 'neoliberal garbage?' Christ, I hope you have some rage to spare for actual capitalists, otherwise you're gonna burn out awfully quick, Ambassador."


Of course, I do, comrade. But I also despise neo-liberals as well.

"You're right. The fact that the target law was incomprehensible is irrelevant, so long as the perceived politics of your enemies are in play. You're so blinded by ideology, you can't stop to consider for a moment that non-ideological issues are at play."

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:29 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Europe and Oceania wrote:
Of course, I do, comrade. But I also despise neo-liberals as well.

"You're right. The fact that the target law was incomprehensible is irrelevant, so long as the perceived politics of your enemies are in play. You're so blinded by ideology, you can't stop to consider for a moment that non-ideological issues are at play."


"The esteemed Separatist ambassador has it right, ambassador, but maybe more importantly to you: I wasn't drawing a distinction between neoliberalism and capitalism. I was drawing a distinction between neoliberal capitalism on the one hand, and crafting a replacement resolution that succeeds at all the things the target tried to do but fails miserably at. The two have nothing to do with each other. Repealing a badly-executed law is not the same thing as saying there should be no law. If your politics can't see beyond its buzzwords and epithets, it is doomed."
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Postby Templar Republic » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:57 am

Your Excellencies,

We don't have the same reading of resolution #404 as the proposer of the present repeal resolution. Our Nation has no problem with the resolution #404, so we will vote against this repeal.

Sincerely yours.
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Postby Great Pharaoh » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:01 pm

Covenstone wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I expected the voters to be more informed than they proved to be. Hell, we even have superdelegates piling onto the target's success. Wallenburg will support this repeal.


It's about helping people in wheelchairs. I really can't imagine people voting against it. I'd be surprised if half the people who have voted yes have actually read the buggering thing.



Yes, but some of the Yes-voters might actually be playing a Social-Darwinist (Evil philosophy :twisted: practiced by the city-state of Sparta during ancient Greece and also by Nazi-Germany) Nation. Its really unbelivable :eyebrow: that the majority is voting against >:( helping people with disabilities, I absolutely agree.

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Postby The Greater Libertalian Islands » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:02 pm

Outlined here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=865223

Our nation will be voting FOR repealing this piece of legislation.
Any chance we get to reduce bureaucratic power and needless laws, rules and regulations we will take in a heartbeat.
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Postby Wrapper » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:45 am

Repeal "Enabling The Disabled In Academia" was passed 10,400 votes to 3,714.

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