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[IDEAS] Ideas for SC Resolutions

Postby Unibot III » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:02 pm

I can't help but feel some authors in the SC seems to be out of ideas. So here's some ideas for commendations and condemnations ....

Legacy nominees -

  • The Archregimancy / The Holy Empire / Alasdair I Frosticus
  • Sunset
  • Pierconium
  • Myrth
  • Tsunamy
  • Northrop Grumman

I think it's ridiculous some of these nominees haven't been commended/condemned yet. Arch? Sunset? Northrop!? Northrop created the dark theme, for starters.

Nation nominees -

  • Sierra Lyricalia
  • Imperium Anglorum
  • The Macabees
  • Candlewhisper Archive
  • Vancouvia
  • Guy
  • Frattastan
  • San Jose Guayabal
  • Northern Sunrise Islands
  • Cerian Quilor
  • Zwangzug
  • Kylarnatia
  • Common Territories
  • Maltropia

This is a pretty diverse list: some roleplayers, some WA authors, some gameplayers, some NS Sports guys, an Issue Author etc.

Regional nominees -

  • The Rejected Realms (I'm totally biased as a former delegate, but: oldest defender army in the game, TRT etc. etc. etc. Fight me, rarh.)
  • Atlantian Oceania
  • International Democratic Union
  • The Local Cluster
  • Greater Dienstad
  • Forest
  • Yggdrasil
  • The Vast
  • Europeia
  • Gay
  • Albion
  • Philosophy 115
  • Equilism

Some of these regions are more important for their significance to particular segments of the NS Community, rather than just being old or big. For example, Atlantian Oceania has been a pillar of the NS Sports community for some time now. Greater Dienstad hosted an NS World Fair, on top of being one of the pillars of the II community.

It goes without saying: go ahead and steal any ideas from this you like. Go forth and draft.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:23 pm

It's high time people did the right thing and commended The East Pacific.

But in all seriousness, I agree with many names on your list. Good grouping of nations who are indeed deserving of a C&C.
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Postby Sygian II » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:32 pm

Nice list. Though I do think there should be a couple more raiders added there. ;)
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:03 pm

Sygian II wrote:Nice list. Though I do think there should be a couple more raiders added there. ;)


Honestly, not an intentional exclusion: I don't really know a lot of invaders. >_< I wouldn't be able to distinguish the ones that deserve a C&C from the ones that aren't there yet.

Feel free to name people here if you like. :)

Todd McCloud wrote:It's high time people did the right thing and commended The East Pacific.


I was about to say "go defender first." But then said to myself: "they did, you idiot." So you win. "Commend The East Pacific"!
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Postby Canton Empire » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:05 pm

I'm already working on Commend Europeia
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:15 pm

Valanora would be a good NS Sports pick. Won five World Cups (T-1st), hosted six WCs (1st), is a powerhouse in WCoH (played in three straight finals currently, all against the same team), and probably some stuff I'm forgetting or haven't looked up yet.
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:19 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:Valanora would be a good NS Sports pick. Won five World Cups (T-1st), hosted six WCs (1st), is a powerhouse in WCoH (played in three straight finals currently, all against the same team), and probably some stuff I'm forgetting or haven't looked up yet.


Sounds like a young Starblaydia!
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Postby The Stalker » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:27 pm

That is a nice list, a good number i'd love to see happen. Maybe if I get caught up on my other projects I might try tackling some down the line.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:27 pm

What am I doing on this list? I never even aggressively refounded a region, and while Kantrias was impressive on its run, it certainly didn't have a footprint large enough to make me worthy of commend or condemn. Yet. Nothing I've done is *that* stand out, apart from being very chatty on the Gameplay forums.

But as someone who used to hang in Philosophy 115 on and off before I joined Gameplay, I would be 100% onboard with someone commending them.
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:40 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:But as someone who used to hang in Philosophy 115 on and off before I joined Gameplay, I would be 100% onboard with someone commending them.


It's a lovely corner in NS. :D

The Stalker wrote:Maybe if I get caught up on my other projects I might try tackling some down the line.


Go for it!
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:58 pm

Vancouvia? Never! A nation that repeatedly submitted the same proposal, even though it never got anywhere near quorum. About a dozen failed attempts. Vancouvia is also one of those Delegates that will approve any proposal however illegal.

He's shown nothing but contempt for the WA, let's not reward that.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:08 am

Unibot III wrote:Legacy nominees -

  • Myrth

I had a WTF moment here, until I realised you must have meant a Condemnation, not a Commendation. That'd fall foul of Rule 1.

Unibot III wrote:Northrop created the dark theme, for starters.

Similarly, this would fall foul of Rule 1, as per: viewtopic.php?p=7381915#p7381915

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Postby Common Territories » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:26 am

Not sure what I've done to make the list, but I appreciate the feelings behind my listing for sure. Though I wouldn't shoo away any vile attempts to condemn me by the accursed WA! :twisted:

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A condemnation? Pour moi? How considerate.
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Postby Pierconium » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:10 am

Myrth wrote:A condemnation? Pour moi? How considerate.

A commendation surely.
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Postby Canton Empire » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:18 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Vancouvia? Never! A nation that repeatedly submitted the same proposal, even though it never got anywhere near quorum. About a dozen failed attempts. Vancouvia is also one of those Delegates that will approve any proposal however illegal.

He's shown nothing but contempt for the WA, let's not reward that.

But the focus is on Vancovia's interaction with the WA, let's look at how quickly Vancovia turned the The Western Isles into one of the biggest and most active UCRs in the game.
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Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Vancouvia? Never! A nation that repeatedly submitted the same proposal, even though it never got anywhere near quorum. About a dozen failed attempts. Vancouvia is also one of those Delegates that will approve any proposal however illegal.

He's shown nothing but contempt for the WA, let's not reward that.

And also, when Commend Vancouvia came up to vote a while back, he actually encouraged a vote against it (and a vote for the excessively-submitted proposal).
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Canton Empire wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Vancouvia? Never! A nation that repeatedly submitted the same proposal, even though it never got anywhere near quorum. About a dozen failed attempts. Vancouvia is also one of those Delegates that will approve any proposal however illegal.

He's shown nothing but contempt for the WA, let's not reward that.

But the focus is on Vancovia's interaction with the WA, let's look at how quickly Vancovia turned the The Western Isles into one of the biggest and most active UCRs in the game.

Not to mention completely onsite rather than relying on an offsite forum etc.
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Postby Angry Kittens » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:51 am

Interesting ideas.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:55 am

Flanderlion wrote:
Canton Empire wrote:But the focus is on Vancovia's interaction with the WA, let's look at how quickly Vancovia turned the The Western Isles into one of the biggest and most active UCRs in the game.

Not to mention completely onsite rather than relying on an offsite forum etc.

Lots of pure roleplay regions don't use offsite forums, because they actually can do things onsite in places like II. Gameplay regions are legally not allowed. Doing it all onsite is not some magically praiseworthy thing.
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Postby Maljaratas » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:29 am

I know for a fact that you have 2+ issue authors on there, as you actually have 2 issue editors on there. (Candle, who is now a senior, and Zwangzug, who is new from the recent contest.

I might look at doing commendations for issue authors, since that happens to be the one part of NS that I know the best.
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Postby Consular » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:59 am

TRR should definitely be condemned, yes. *nods*

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Postby Unibot III » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:54 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Unibot III wrote:Legacy nominees -

  • Myrth

I had a WTF moment here, until I realised you must have meant a Condemnation, not a Commendation. That'd fall foul of Rule 1.


I wasn't going to suggest a condemnation of Myrth for moderation issues.

Unibot III wrote:Northrop created the dark theme, for starters.

Similarly, this would fall foul of Rule 1, as per: viewtopic.php?p=7381915#p7381915


That's a bizarre ruling, Sedge. To be blunt: you're making a distinction that isn't there. Rule 4 should be the only barrier to commending Northrop for the dark theme (and it's a tough enough challenge as it is.) Conflating any "submitted changes of appearance to the site" to Rule 1 (which bares commending/condemning "members of the site staff" for the roles they play in those capacity) is an overreach of Rule 1.

If someone can come up with a way to refer to a theme without unreasonably violating Rule 4, I think it should be allowed.

For example:

Praising Northrop Grumman for its thematic contributions to NationStates, which are, among many things, dark;


Praising Northrop Grumman for its thematic contributions to NationStates;




That's not very good, but it should pass the Rule 4 smell-test. It's a matter of being vague (and punny!) enough. Any resolution with a "keeping others in the dark" pun is the gold standard. Applying Rule 1 on this suggests Grumman's actions were analogous to an act as a staff role - when it obviously wasn't since he clearly was not servicing a staff role. I think your interpretation of Rule 1 fails precedent in a number of regards: first and foremost, applied coherently, we would be banned from commending NS Issue authors for writing NS Issues. Our ability to commend NS Issue Authors has always been terribly sketchy under Rule 4 - the phrase "issues" doesn't give any more latitude than "themes" does. NS Issues again do not affect the appearance of the site and are contributed voluntarily to the game code. A ban of this nature would also block commendations for adaptive technology like Eluvatar's Telescope and Afforess' NS++.

It should be said that the dark skin is only one part of Northrop Grumman's contributions to NS - he's a leading member of the Factbook/Roleplay community. But banning mentioning the major theme contribution seems very silly to me - it's taking Rule 1 without a reasonable purposive interpretation.

Maljaratas wrote:I know for a fact that you have 2+ issue authors on there, as you actually have 2 issue editors on there. (Candle, who is now a senior, and Zwangzug, who is new from the recent contest.

I might look at doing commendations for issue authors, since that happens to be the one part of NS that I know the best.


Candle is also a generalite and a commendation for Zwangy cannot go without mentioning her substantial work in NS Sports, her contributions to the NS World Fair (she ran the NS Sports tournaments for the first and second fair entirely) and her defending work (she was a prolific spotter/liberator in the UDL.)

Consular wrote:TRR should definitely be condemned, yes. *nods*


It had crossed my mind. Could be downright hilarious.
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Postby Maljaratas » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:32 am

Unibot III wrote:
Maljaratas wrote:I know for a fact that you have 2+ issue authors on there, as you actually have 2 issue editors on there. (Candle, who is now a senior, and Zwangzug, who is new from the recent contest.

I might look at doing commendations for issue authors, since that happens to be the one part of NS that I know the best.


Candle is also a generalite and a commendation for Zwangy cannot go without mentioning her substantial work in NS Sports, her contributions to the NS World Fair (she ran the NS Sports tournaments for the first and second fair entirely) and her defending work (she was a prolific spotter/liberator in the UDL.)

That's good to know for Zwangzug, though I was thinking in general terms of commending issue authors.
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Postby Myrth » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:35 pm

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A commendation surely.


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