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Do you play strategy games?

Yes (I am a woman)
30
17%
No (I am a woman)
0
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Yes (I am a man)
123
70%
No (I am a man)
11
6%
Strategy games are derp hurr huurr (I like pie :DDDDD)
12
7%
 
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:05 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Personally I suspect League is worse due in some part to it being such a large, popular e-sport. Some take it a lot more serious as a result.


Most of the community in ranked is cancer.

It's probably one of the reasons I've stayed away from it. Instead I play against bots, or the quirky modes like ARAM.

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Postby Sareva » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:05 pm

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Sareva wrote:Those same whiny internet teenagers tell combat veterans their loadout is "unrealistic". If you beat me, you beat me. I couldn't care less, it's a damn video game, I'd play futbol or baseball and still have as much fun. Fucking dweebs.

They tell vets their loadouts are unrealistic? That's blind stupid.

Vets usually don't say they are vets. Besides, these kids are too busy drinking Mountain Dew and screaming "Leeroy Jenkins" to even know what they are doing half the damn time.
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Sareva wrote:They're ancoms LARPing as vigilantes in the name of anti-fascism while acting like the National Socialist Party in Daesh-inspired clothing.

That's quite possibly the best description of antifa I've ever heard.

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Postby Herargon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:05 pm

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Herargon wrote:
I should try on the internet to pretend I'm a female and then when I get flak for it, come out as a man.

Should give some laughter.

Harassment also varies widely by community. I've heard some real horror stories about League, for instance, regardless of gender for example. Heard a lot less about it for HotS in comparison within the same overall genre. Some communities actually police user conduct really well to put a lid on the gender-driven harassment, others don't. If more did, you'd likely see more women comfortable outing themselves as such.


Let's just agree that LoL sucks donkey-arse. It has some nice people, yes, but the community on overall is quite toxic. :/

Sareva wrote:
UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:Bunch of whiny internet teenagers would beg to differ.

Those same whiny internet teenagers tell combat veterans their loadout is "unrealistic". If you beat me, you beat me. I couldn't care less, it's a damn video game, I'd play futbol or baseball and still have as much fun. Fucking dweebs.


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Postby UCE Watchdog of the Puppets » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:06 pm

Sareva wrote:
UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:They tell vets their loadouts are unrealistic? That's blind stupid.

Vets usually don't say they are vets. Besides, these kids are too busy drinking Mountain Dew and screaming "Leeroy Jenkins" to even know what they are doing half the damn time.

:lol2: That was my experience of it, once. Except that I was usually playing against bots.
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Postby Sareva » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:09 pm

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:
Sareva wrote:Vets usually don't say they are vets. Besides, these kids are too busy drinking Mountain Dew and screaming "Leeroy Jenkins" to even know what they are doing half the damn time.

:lol2: That was my experience of it, once. Except that I was usually playing against bots.

They act smug, but if they did anything like what I did when I was younger, they'd bitch and moan about raking leaves being too hard and add something about "normies" under their breath. I'm nineteen in a week and this is the shit younger kids do.
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Sareva wrote:They're ancoms LARPing as vigilantes in the name of anti-fascism while acting like the National Socialist Party in Daesh-inspired clothing.

That's quite possibly the best description of antifa I've ever heard.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:10 pm

Sareva wrote:
UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:They tell vets their loadouts are unrealistic? That's blind stupid.

Vets usually don't say they are vets. Besides, these kids are too busy drinking Mountain Dew and screaming "Leeroy Jenkins" to even know what they are doing half the damn time.

Hey now, let's mind the "All X are Y." The problem is not limited solely to the behavior of children and teenagers, there are plenty of grown adults who act like complete trash online when gaming.
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Postby Herargon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:10 pm

Sareva wrote:
UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote::lol2: That was my experience of it, once. Except that I was usually playing against bots.

They act smug, but if they did anything like what I did when I was younger, they'd bitch and moan about raking leaves being too hard and add something about "normies" under their breath. I'm nineteen in a week and this is the shit younger kids do.


oh shit, I'm 19 as well

Are they fake 4channers?
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Postby Sareva » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:13 pm

Herargon wrote:
Sareva wrote:They act smug, but if they did anything like what I did when I was younger, they'd bitch and moan about raking leaves being too hard and add something about "normies" under their breath. I'm nineteen in a week and this is the shit younger kids do.


oh shit, I'm 19 as well

Are they fake 4channers?

Yes, "All X are Y" is a bad mentality. Sorry about that one.


On the note of 4chan, possibly. Or they are just lethargic af.
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Sareva wrote:They're ancoms LARPing as vigilantes in the name of anti-fascism while acting like the National Socialist Party in Daesh-inspired clothing.

That's quite possibly the best description of antifa I've ever heard.

Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."

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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:14 pm

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Sindrea wrote:
It's a major pet peeve of mine for fantasy fans to accept dragons, but a society where women have to be afraid of rape? "Too unrealistic".

And the idea of applying 1950s sexism to earlier time periods is another one, I'm quite passionate about studying history, and wish that the study of it gets overhauled in primary school to actually make it more engaging.

While it's mostly about the different social classes of England and Normandy during the period, and he has been rightfully criticized for being too down on knights, I think Medieval Lives by Terry Jones is a very nice introduction to the period and does go into a bit about how women are viewed and are expected to behave.

And yes, it's that Terry Jones of Monty Python fame, so the writing is very easy to get into and quite funny even if you're not into the typical Monty Python humor.

For some reason it's always bugged the crap out of me when a character in ancient or medieval setting or even a fantasy setting has views that are ridiciously progressive for their time and the show makes no attempt to explain why they hold these views.

The Robin Hood film with Russel Crowe portrays the character as someone who believes in democracy and government by the people....during the time of the 1st Crusade.

Yeah okay then.


If it's just one character, then why not? When I was afloat in the 1860s, we had people whose views would be moderately progressive even by modern standards. They just were outnumbered by the people with more conservative views.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:27 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Siotao wrote:If only people paid more attention to marketing and consumer statistics in video games. A lot of women and yeah see Reppy's links for more evidences. see below reppy is bless.

I <3 the ESA's yearly stats report. The gender stats over the past several years have been fairly consistently above 40% of the total gameplaying population, occasionally trending pretty damn close to an even 50/50 split. ^_^

There are girls in ur base, killin ur d00dz.


Alvecia wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Harassment also varies widely by community. I've heard some real horror stories about League, for instance, regardless of gender for example. Heard a lot less about it for HotS in comparison within the same overall genre. Some communities actually police user conduct really well to put a lid on the gender-driven harassment, others don't. If more did, you'd likely see more women comfortable outing themselves as such.

Personally I suspect League is worse due in some part to it being such a large, popular e-sport. Some take it a lot more serious as a result.

Back when DOTA was just a set of custom maps for Warcraft III you'd have hosts quizzing people on items and skills and shit and kicking people out for not knowing the right answers. Something about MOBAs just brings out the inner cockrag in people.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:28 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Genivaria wrote:For some reason it's always bugged the crap out of me when a character in ancient or medieval setting or even a fantasy setting has views that are ridiciously progressive for their time and the show makes no attempt to explain why they hold these views.

The Robin Hood film with Russel Crowe portrays the character as someone who believes in democracy and government by the people....during the time of the 1st Crusade.

Yeah okay then.


If it's just one character, then why not? When I was afloat in the 1860s, we had people whose views would be moderately progressive even by modern standards. They just were outnumbered by the people with more conservative views.

I don't object to the character being there, I object to them not showing any reason why they believe such.
People don't live in a vacuum and I'd like to see why they believe contrary to their surroundings.

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:50 pm

Galloism wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Because there is a persistent stereotype that "gaming" is strictly a (young) male hobby despite substantial evidence pointing out the obvious. (That is, "gamers" are of both genders, and the hobby is not strictly dominated by children and teens.) Coupled by a wide variety of reasons for women not to identify themselves as such when playing games online, it just furthers the misconception that there are not many women playing these types of games.

I think this has a lot to do with personal experiences which the average person takes as credible instead of actual studies, combined with another factor:

A lot of women pretend to be men when gaming online.


I know I do, but then most people think I am male when I talk on internet forums.
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Postby Sareva » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:54 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Galloism wrote:I think this has a lot to do with personal experiences which the average person takes as credible instead of actual studies, combined with another factor:

A lot of women pretend to be men when gaming online.


I know I do, but then most people think I am male when I talk on internet forums.

No wonder feminism wants us to stop assuming gender.
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Sareva wrote:They're ancoms LARPing as vigilantes in the name of anti-fascism while acting like the National Socialist Party in Daesh-inspired clothing.

That's quite possibly the best description of antifa I've ever heard.

Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."

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Postby Galloism » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:58 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Galloism wrote:I think this has a lot to do with personal experiences which the average person takes as credible instead of actual studies, combined with another factor:

A lot of women pretend to be men when gaming online.


I know I do, but then most people think I am male when I talk on internet forums.

Doesn't help that you have a flag of Batman.
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:04 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:
I know I do, but then most people think I am male when I talk on internet forums.

Doesn't help that you have a flag of Batman.

Yeah I saw that and immediately assumed you were the real life Bruce Wayne, just like Gallo is definitely the real life Darth Vader.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:05 pm

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Galloism wrote:Doesn't help that you have a flag of Batman.

Yeah I saw that and immediately assumed you were the real life Bruce Wayne, just like Gallo is definitely the real life Darth Vader.

That's not really comparable. I am the real life Darth Vader. Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:07 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Yeah I saw that and immediately assumed you were the real life Bruce Wayne, just like Gallo is definitely the real life Darth Vader.

That's not really comparable. I am the real life Darth Vader. Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.

What makes you think Neutraligon isn't a real life Bruce Wayne?
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Postby Sareva » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:07 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Yeah I saw that and immediately assumed you were the real life Bruce Wayne, just like Gallo is definitely the real life Darth Vader.

That's not really comparable. I am the real life Darth Vader. Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.

Yeah, you actually died in the most pathetic way possible. You tripped on your laces.
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Sareva wrote:They're ancoms LARPing as vigilantes in the name of anti-fascism while acting like the National Socialist Party in Daesh-inspired clothing.

That's quite possibly the best description of antifa I've ever heard.

Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."

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Postby Versail » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:08 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Yeah I saw that and immediately assumed you were the real life Bruce Wayne, just like Gallo is definitely the real life Darth Vader.

That's not really comparable. I am the real life Darth Vader. Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.

You need to get your grandson under control then.
He won't listen to his parents maybe he'll listen to you.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:13 pm

Versail wrote:
Galloism wrote:That's not really comparable. I am the real life Darth Vader. Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.

You need to get your grandson under control then.
He won't listen to his parents maybe he'll listen to you.

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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:14 pm

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Galloism wrote:Doesn't help that you have a flag of Batman.

Yeah I saw that and immediately assumed you were the real life Bruce Wayne, just like Gallo is definitely the real life Darth Vader.


I am definitely the real USS Monitor.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:14 pm

Versail wrote:
Galloism wrote:That's not really comparable. I am the real life Darth Vader. Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.

You need to get your grandson under control then.
He won't listen to his parents maybe he'll listen to you.

His grandson is a little emo bitch who needs to stop crying about the light and choke the shit outta some people.

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Postby Bonehead Crushers » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:38 pm

Strategy...? You mean not just going in guns blazing blowing everyone to pieces with boomsticks and axes? LAAAAAAAAAME! >:(
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:50 pm

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I've seen during several matches women getting harassed mid game once their gender was known.

Probably a cause of the aforementioned phenomena.

Then again, in MMORPGs, I basically always play female characters despite being a guy. I get lots of free stuff and random help that way.


I have a friend who does the same for a different reason: to quote: "If I have to stare at this character's arse while I'm playing, I may as well make it something worth looking at".
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:05 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Galloism wrote:That's not really comparable. I am the real life Darth Vader. Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.

What makes you think Neutraligon isn't a real life Bruce Wayne?


How can I be Bruce Wayne when Batman appears when Bruce Wayne is also there. *Walks away whistling.
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