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The Osiris Oracle, founded in late July 2014, is produced on behalf of the Osiran Government by the Priesthood of Apis (Ministry of Media). Spreading news and information, to the world.




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Issue I



28/12/2014


War: The Aftermath


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On August 28th,2014 at 7:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time the Osiris Fraternal Order declared a state of war on the Peoples Republic of Lazarus. Propsoed by Pharaoh Cormac, the official declaration, which can be found here, accuses Lazerene Officials of hostility towards the Osiris Fraternal Order and its allies, its anti-iperialist propoganda, as well as its harboring of Karpathos and former members of The Empire, Dalimbar and New Kervoskia

But after facing a long and tiring struggle with foreign powers regarding its decision to go to war, Osiris officially repealed the Declaration. By then, Cormac had resigned as Pharaoh, due to increasing amount of attention real life demanded.

Now, the War is history, but the scars still remain. Some individuals question whether it was really necessary to go to war despite the known unlikelihood that it would result in the overthrow of PRL. Others compare its likeness to the US-Soviet Cold War, a period of political tension between two power's, but no actual military aggression. Nothing regarding Osiris' cause, was accomplished, so was it worth it? I do believe its safe to say: Osiris lost more than it gambled.

Now, two month later, Osiris is naught but a shell of its former self; activity is at an all time low, the new administration ground to a halt with a lack of strong leadership, and one by one, the amount of citizens in Osiris dwindled.




An Interview with Funkadelia


Funkadelia talks about the Osiris/Lazarus War and the future relations between the two regions
Interviewed by Osiran Reporter and Chief Editor, Andrew

In Osiris, the War was expected to be a bold and activity-generating move. With sixty percent of the votes cast in favor of War, the Osiran Government was confident in their decision that it would attract attention and activity to Osiris.

But what were the thoughts of the Lazarus, during the War? Osiris Oracle interviewed Wartime Chairman, Funkadelia, to find out exactly what he and his government thought of Osiris's actions:




Andrew: What did you think when Osiris declared war on Lazarus? Were you concerned?

Funkadelia: Of course I was concerned. I was also very frustrated that Osiris had decided act with such gravity as declaring war over something so petty.

Andrew: As Chairman at the time, would you have come to the table with the then Osiris Administration to resolve this?

Funkadelia: I had already tried that, and the talks were going nowhere until Karpathos and Treize talked things out.

Andrew: As the war moved on, did your concern decrease as it was unlikely that the War would see the disestablishment of PRL?

Funkadelia: Yes. As it went on myself and the rest of my State Council realized that the war was more or less a joke. The LLA and the Osiris Military didn't even meet during update. It was nothing more than Cormac and Treize in the Gameplay forum continuing to post vague messages about how Lazarus was going to get it.

I think there was one coup attempt that was found by us about as quickly as it was ordered.

Andrew: Many have described Lazarus as a communist dictatorship which is open only to those who 'fit' with what PRL stands for. Do you agree or differ? If you differ, why?

Funkadelia: I disagree. That's a naive assumption made by only a quick glance at the region. I don't think anyone can contest the fact that it is a Communist dictatorship. However, we allow anyone in the region. Yes, many Lazarenes have deep entrenched values, however we do not bar or ostracize people from Lazarus. We accept all.

I think the same assumption could be, or at the very least could have been made about Osiris a few months ago.

Andrew: What did you think after the War declaration was repealed?

Funkadelia: I was relieved that finally the senseless aggresion was ending.

Andrew: Did you think to make any plans to reach out to Osiris and try to pursue peace?

Funkadelia: I *did* reach out to Osiris

We were in talks that were halted abruptly with Cormac's resignation. That isn't to say that they were going very quickly before that.

Andrew: You said that the talks werent going very quickly. Do you think that this was because the Cormac Administration was alittle hesitant or that your Administration weren't giving their all for peace?

Funkadelia: I can't really say what the cause was. It was just generally slow.

Andrew: What is your opinion of the Cormac Administration?

Funkadelia: It wasn't good. I think it was ineffectual and the war made Osiris look like a joke.

Andrew: How was it ineffectual? What things did it do wrong, except the war, and what should it have done?

Funkadelia: I don't think it did any major wrongs other than the war . I just think in general it didn't do much. But, Obviously I'm not a citizen there so I can't exactly give a sort of expert opinion. I *could* be wrong for all I know

Andrew: After Cormac's resignation would you say you felt alittle bit relieved?

Funkadelia: Not really. Treize Dreizehn was also a sabre rattler, so I was unsure the direction Osiris would take in the war.

Andrew: What do you hope for the future of Lazarus/Osiris Relations?

Funkadelia: I hope that eventually they can repair relations. Lazarus and Osiris re both sinkers, and for that reason alone they have a mutual interest in keeping their relations active. We'll have to see where Stujenske and Joshua take things.

Andrew: Well Thank You for giving us your time, it has been a pleasure. Good Day :)





The Dead Administration and Upcoming Elections


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On October 4th, Joshua Bluteisen was elected Pharaoh of Osiris, after Cormac's immediate resignation. Following the repeal of the war declaration, on the 12th of October, Joshua's Cabinet was confirmed by the Deshret. Joshua Bluteisen was elected Pharaoh on the high expectation of reconciliating with Lazarus, the rebuild of Osiris's Foreign Policy and the restoration of Osiris to its former glory.

This backfired. Facing mounting responsibilities in real life, Joshua was unable to effectively lead his administration. After several weeks of being dormant, activity dwindled as less people logged onto the forum or participated in RMB discussion. Eventually, only several individuals remained active on either forums or RMB.

As a sidetrack to Osiris, several notable individuals including Treize Dreizehn, surprised the region as they resigned all their position in Osiris including their citizenship. Having served as Vizer (Vice Delegate) of Osiris for two consectuive terms, Trieze was praised for his long service to Osiris and wished well in future endeavors. But all these exits only worsened the condition in Osiris as activity continued to drop.

Several critics have criticized the Joshua Administration, blaming it for its inactivity and the decline of Osiris. But most say that the collective region is to blame for its own downfall and that 'activity can not be created by only one individual' and that 'its a team effort ' There have been attempts to call the removal of Joshua as Pharaoh, but all too late as the legally required time period would have lead up to scheduled Pharaoh Elections, making it pointless to remove him from office. Despite his administrations inactivity, Joshua Bluteisen will serve a full term.

An Interview with Joshua Bluteisen

Osiris Oracle interviews Joshua Bluteisen, on his thoughts of how successful his administration has been so far.
Interviewed by Osiran Reporter and Chief Editor, Andrew

Andrew: You were elected to office with high expectations, do you think you have reached them?

Joshua: Nope.

Andrew: Please do expand more, I would like wordy answers :P

Joshua: Due to a multitude of factors, primarily relating to IRL shit, I couldnt maintain the activity levels I wanted -- or ensure that my cabinet did the same.

Andrew: But haven't you considered removing several Scribe from their posts for inactivity?

Joshua: When you cant find adequate replacements, its hard to replace somebody.

Andrew: I see. Talking about Scribes, you brought in your friend, Romic, to serve as Scribe of Justice. Do you think that was a mistake, considering his inactivity?

Joshua: Given he disappeared and his nation ceased to exist, yes, thats a fuck up on my part.

Andrew: So, do you believe you are solely responsible for Osiris's inactivity and that you have failed as Pharaoh?

Joshua: Loaded question much? I am responsible for my cabinet and acknowledge that this is a failed term, yes, but my primary concern at the moment is ensuring the delegacy remains secure.

Andrew: Well as a member of the Hedjet I will say that you alone havent 'failed' Osiris. The collective Hedjet has failed

Dont be too hard on yourself

Joshua: Osiris is my home on NS and that isnt going to change after the next election (or recall, or whatever) -- but I do acknowledge my fuck ups, and itd be idiotic not to.

I am ultimately responsible for my cabinet.

Andrew: What do you think has been the biggest issue for your administration. Yes, there is the activity, but more specific. The Legion, Foreign Affairs, Culture? etc..

Joshua: Stagnation on all fronts.

Andrew: But have you given any effort or delegate tasks to the appropriate Scribes? Or has really life been to much to do such?

Joshua: The lack of direction for each scribe lies on me and me only. Thats just a fact.

Andrew: Part of your campaign, during elections, was to hold peace talks with Lazarus and start repairing broken relations. How has that gone on?

Joshua: Ending the war was the primary goal; Treize accomplished that during the election.

We currently have no relations with the PRL; we never got around to reaching out to them.

Andrew: Did you not think of advancing it further? Ending a war is one thing, "building and repairing what we've lost" is another?

Joshua: Of the regions that we pissed off, the only one we managed to regain neutrality with was Ainur.

Andrew:So what would you advise the next administration, regarding the repair of our foreign relations?

Joshua: I would recommend focusing on Spiritus. Solid, active region.

Being active would probably help too.

Andrew: :P

Will you be seeking re-election? If not, what will you do

Joshua: Nope. Plan to continue doing whatever I do on NS here -- be it raiding with the legion or just spamming the IRC. If the Legion dies, Ill go fenda for lulz.

Andrew: What about being Guardian of the Atef? the region needs you now more than ever. Would you really leave to raid?

Joshua: If they want me on the Atef still, it'd be best for me to drop WA then re-tart to cap due to the ~30 extra endorsements. I plan to do whatever the region asks of me. If they need a body for raiding, or an influence sink, Im there.

Andrew: Please stay :(

Joshua:separate from the interview, but I don't do that whole I AM SHAMED AND MUST LEAVE THIS REGION bullshit.

It's a community that I'm part of. Sometimes people fuck up, sometimes people don't work out for governmental positions. It doesn't mean that they have to leave the region.

Andrew: :)

During the War, did you believe Osiris could really overthrow PRL, regarding that you supported it?

Joshua: We never had the capability to gain their delegacy. We all knew this.

Andrew: So why support?

Joshua: It was supposed to give a definable gameplay goal and increase activity. Give us something of a goal and gameplay direction.

We handled it poorly, but it wasn't a terrible idea.

Andrew: Why wasnt it?

Joshua: Because had we not handled it like idiots, it would have been a fun side project for the Legion and a way to increase activity via proxy wars over founderless regions. We failed on that front, but it could have worked had we handled it correctly.

Andrew: Did you not think of the dire implications, even though it may have generated activity

Joshua: the FRA never was, or ever will be, a threat to the delegacy.

Andrew: ok. But I was talking in regards to Osiris' foreign policy :P

Joshua: The lazarus war in and of itself didn't hurt osiran foreign policy .Certain actions taken during and before it did.

Andrew: Ok. Thank you very much for your time Mr. Pharaoh, it has been a pleasure





Keeper Elections and Upcoming Pharaoh Elections


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Now for some more recent news, Elections have concluded for the Keeper of Deshret in Osiris. Standing for Keeper was former Pharaoh Cormac Stark, current Scribe of Military Affairs Vaculatestar , and Rising Councillor Ainocra. Given his platform and expertise around Osiris, Cormac seemed favored to win. Cormac's platform focused on the re-examination of the existent legislation and of Osiris' judicial system.

In Cormac words:

Due to the non-existence of crime in the Osiris Fraternal Order for more than a year, I would like to re-examine our judicial system and the necessity of having three people as permanent judges unable to serve in other capacities.


Cormac explained his willingness to discuss the exploration of different judicial systems, stating a system similar to the Balder judicial system ,of having an arbitration process that is only activated on an as-needed basis, as a possible alternative for Osiris but making it known he would support whatever the majority of the Deshret supported.

But he surprisingly withdrew from the race, leaving Vac and Ainocra left in the running for Keeper. To others however it seemed as a hint of Cormac's intentions to run in the upcoming Pharaoh Elections, to which Cormac denied wanting to run. After leaving the race, it was then suspected Vaculatestar would be victorious given his experience as Keeper but was eventually defeated with 8 of the 14 votes cast for Ainocra.

As soon as the result were tallied, and he declared the new Keeper, Ainocra immediately went about appointing Vaculatestar as Curator of the Deshret and setting out his plans as Keeper.

With one election down and one more to go, the question on Osiris's mind is: who will be the next Pharaoh of Osiris and how will they restore Osiris from its decline?




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Postby Kringalia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:08 am

New Emeritus wrote:Joshua: Because had we not handled it like idiots, it would have been a fun side project for the Legion

Seriously? A war would have been a "fun side project" for your regional military? :eyebrow:
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Postby Rifty » Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:26 am

Is it wrong to fall in love with someone you haven't met? I think not...Joshua please love me! Sound like such a fucking badass xDDD

Nice to see something come out of Osiris other then a few WA nations that happened to be recruited.
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Kringalia wrote:
New Emeritus wrote:Joshua: Because had we not handled it like idiots, it would have been a fun side project for the Legion

Seriously? A war would have been a "fun side project" for your regional military? :eyebrow:

:rofl:
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Postby Solorni » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:38 am

Given how the PRL has purged members and continues to have the new leaderships political opponents banned, it is not really an open or diverse place.
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Postby Funkadelia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:03 pm

Solorni wrote:Given how the PRL has purged members and continues to have the new leaderships political opponents banned, it is not really an open or diverse place.

I think this has been disproved and refuted virtually every time you have copy and pasted it into a new thread. Who has been banned in the past 6 months less Ikania?
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Postby Ikand » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:05 pm

Kringalia wrote:
New Emeritus wrote:Joshua: Because had we not handled it like idiots, it would have been a fun side project for the Legion

Seriously? A war would have been a "fun side project" for your regional military? :eyebrow:


Yes.



also, my logs show that I actually used punctuation in the interview. Just noticed that got stripped from it. ;w;
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Postby Solorni » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:38 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Solorni wrote:Given how the PRL has purged members and continues to have the new leaderships political opponents banned, it is not really an open or diverse place.

I think this has been disproved and refuted virtually every time you have copy and pasted it into a new thread. Who has been banned in the past 6 months less Ikania?

I think it hasn't and I also don't think you know what copy and paste means... but in any case... when did 6 months become the marker of good behaviour?
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Solorni wrote:
Funkadelia wrote:I think this has been disproved and refuted virtually every time you have copy and pasted it into a new thread. Who has been banned in the past 6 months less Ikania?

I think it hasn't and I also don't think you know what copy and paste means... but in any case... when did 6 months become the marker of good behaviour?

Since the founding of the PRL, who has been banned less Ikania?
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Postby Solorni » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:08 pm

This current leadership started with the Feux led purges of NES, Griffin, Isidor, Cerebella amongst others who were banned.
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Postby Funkadelia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:19 pm

Solorni wrote:This current leadership started with the Feux led purges of NES, Griffin, Isidor, Cerebella amongst others who were banned.

Those took place before the establishment of the People's Republic. This proves my point: Your claims of an oppressive and closed regime cannot hold any water. Ikania was banned from the region for multiple instances of calling for a coup of the region. Since the Republic was established, no one else other than adspammers have been ejected or banned from Lazarus.
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Postby Ikania » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:21 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Solorni wrote:This current leadership started with the Feux led purges of NES, Griffin, Isidor, Cerebella amongst others who were banned.

Those took place before the establishment of the People's Republic. This proves my point: Your claims of an oppressive and closed regime cannot hold any water. Ikania was banned from the region for multiple instances of calling for a coup of the region. Since the Republic was established, no one else other than adspammers have been ejected or banned from Lazarus.

Glad to be mentioned.

I won't start up the discussion again because everything that must be said can be found deep in the annals of the GP forum, but I've never quite gotten why you revere someone who couped a feeder and went batshit crazy but ban someone who plotted for a while but never got anywhere.

I haven't been keeping up with Lazarene affairs recently, since, you know, I'm IP banned from your forums, but from what I see, there hasn't been any evidence of any 'totalitarian oppression'.

Although I do still rank the PRL lower on my nonexistent list of free regions.
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Funkadelia wrote:
Solorni wrote:This current leadership started with the Feux led purges of NES, Griffin, Isidor, Cerebella amongst others who were banned.

Those took place before the establishment of the People's Republic. This proves my point: Your claims of an oppressive and closed regime cannot hold any water. Ikania was banned from the region for multiple instances of calling for a coup of the region. Since the Republic was established, no one else other than adspammers have been ejected or banned from Lazarus.

I'm not sure if that is credible since at least one of those members purged by Feux on orders by AMOM are still banned...
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Postby Pestarzt the Traveller » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:11 pm

Anyone who possesses anything other than undying praise for Comrade Milograd is probably under the agency of a radical puppeteer.

I hope to see Lazarus and Osiris become closer and more supportive of each other's place in the world.
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Pestarzt the Traveller wrote:Anyone who possesses anything other than undying praise for Comrade Milograd is probably under the agency of a radical puppeteer.

I hope to see Lazarus and Osiris become closer and more supportive of each other's place in the world.


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Kringalia wrote:
New Emeritus wrote:Joshua: Because had we not handled it like idiots, it would have been a fun side project for the Legion

Seriously? A war would have been a "fun side project" for your regional military? :eyebrow:


New Emeritus wrote:Andrew: During the War, did you believe Osiris could really overthrow PRL, regarding that you supported it?

Joshua: We never had the capability to gain their delegacy. We all knew this.

Andrew: So why support?

Joshua: It was supposed to give a definable gameplay goal and increase activity. Give us something of a goal and gameplay direction.

We handled it poorly, but it wasn't a terrible idea.

Andrew: Why wasnt it?

Joshua: Because had we not handled it like idiots, it would have been a fun side project for the Legion and a way to increase activity via proxy wars over founderless regions. We failed on that front, but it could have worked had we handled it correctly.

Newsflash: This is the purpose of most NationStates wars, past and present, regardless of the propaganda reasons given. This was the purpose articulated to the cabinet of Osiris, as well as to many of our allies, and it was a purpose with which many of them agreed. Its execution, on the other hand, was terrible, brought on in part by pressure from some to make the war about more than it was about. I wanted a proxy war and so did most of those who signed on to the idea, as Joshua articulated. A tiny minority -- perhaps a minority of one -- wanted an actual coup in Lazarus, which was unachievable, and led to missteps on my part that were aimed at weakening Lazarus and its allies and cutting any connection Osiris had with any of them.

If you're looking for more "noble" reasons for war, I would suggest that you bear in mind that this is a browser game. Nobody is getting killed, nobody is getting actually hurt, and we're two sides in a game. Of course the reasons for war are somewhat frivolous in comparison to actual, real life wars.

A nice first edition for the Oracle, Andrew. Great job.

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Postby Phoenix Dominion » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:12 am

Cormac Stark wrote:
Kringalia wrote:Seriously? A war would have been a "fun side project" for your regional military? :eyebrow:


New Emeritus wrote:Andrew: During the War, did you believe Osiris could really overthrow PRL, regarding that you supported it?

Joshua: We never had the capability to gain their delegacy. We all knew this.

Andrew: So why support?

Joshua: It was supposed to give a definable gameplay goal and increase activity. Give us something of a goal and gameplay direction.

We handled it poorly, but it wasn't a terrible idea.

Andrew: Why wasnt it?

Joshua: Because had we not handled it like idiots, it would have been a fun side project for the Legion and a way to increase activity via proxy wars over founderless regions. We failed on that front, but it could have worked had we handled it correctly.

Newsflash: This is the purpose of most NationStates wars, past and present, regardless of the propaganda reasons given. This was the purpose articulated to the cabinet of Osiris, as well as to many of our allies, and it was a purpose with which many of them agreed. Its execution, on the other hand, was terrible, brought on in part by pressure from some to make the war about more than it was about. I wanted a proxy war and so did most of those who signed on to the idea, as Joshua articulated. A tiny minority -- perhaps a minority of one -- wanted an actual coup in Lazarus, which was unachievable, and led to missteps on my part that were aimed at weakening Lazarus and its allies and cutting any connection Osiris had with any of them.

If you're looking for more "noble" reasons for war, I would suggest that you bear in mind that this is a browser game. Nobody is getting killed, nobody is getting actually hurt, and we're two sides in a game. Of course the reasons for war are somewhat frivolous in comparison to actual, real life wars.

A nice first edition for the Oracle, Andrew. Great job.


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Postby Solorni » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:36 am

Cormac Stark wrote: Of course the reasons for war are somewhat frivolous in comparison to actual, real life wars.

I'm not sure the reasons for the war were frivolous in comparison to actual wars. After all... the U.S.A. went to Iraq for a pretty bogus reason. The war of the golden stool started when the British asked to sit on the Anshati stool. The war of Jenkins Ear started when a British officer had his ear chopped off in a fight with a Spanish officer. The war of the bucket started when the Italian city state of Modena stole the civic wooden bucket of Bologna. 2,000 people died in the attempt to regain the bucket.

So there are far sillier frivolous real life wars Cormac ;)
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:50 am

Lol maybe that's the purpose in retrospect, Cormac. At the time the wars are being declared, it has nothing to do with a utilitarian analysis of what generates activity. It's usually personal feuds, drunken decrees, or propagandist blustering.

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Postby Venico » Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:47 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Lol maybe that's the purpose in retrospect, Cormac. At the time the wars are being declared, it has nothing to do with a utilitarian analysis of what generates activity. It's usually personal feuds, drunken decrees, or propagandist blustering.


As someone who was listening to the backroom conversations, the main purpose of the war was to unify Osiris against one enemy rather than defenders at large who at the time were not on the field. It would give the Legion a target besides natives since Cormac was getting squeamish again (read as: going defender) and it would give us permanent activity. The reasons weren't personal and were purely utilitarian. So instead of sticking your nose 20 feet in the air and pretending like you know everything, why don't you sit back and listen for once eh?
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:17 pm

That sounds like propagandist blustering!

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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:34 pm

You got lost on your way to TRT again, Glen. :blush:
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Postby Venico » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:21 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:That sounds like propagandist blustering!


I'm a retired dude who wishes he had more time for NS but is secretly glad he managed to kick this nasty habit. I've got nothing to gain by lying and nothing to lose by being honest. Cormac presented the war to many people and talked it over in various states of sobriety, not once did he mention declaring war over anything as petty as a personal issue. So go be dramatic elsewhere GR, and as Syl said, make your way to TRT.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:21 am

I'm fairly sure I only ever discussed the war in a state of complete sobriety, for the record...

I'm not entirely sure how I've developed the reputation of the NationStates Gameplay town drunk. :P

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:20 am

Venico wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:That sounds like propagandist blustering!


I'm a retired dude who wishes he had more time for NS but is secretly glad he managed to kick this nasty habit. I've got nothing to gain by lying and nothing to lose by being honest. Cormac presented the war to many people and talked it over in various states of sobriety, not once did he mention declaring war over anything as petty as a personal issue. So go be dramatic elsewhere GR, and as Syl said, make your way to TRT.

You said the purpose of the war was to give Osiris one unified target against defenders. It was a classic case of imperialists vs. defenders. That's run of the mill propaganda in NS. You guys wanted a war with Lazarus because you could use it to recruit and rally the troops. How is that not propagandist blustering?

If you guys really approached it in a utilitarian way, you would have declared war on the FRA or whoever was the top defender group at the time. You guys were simultaneously (apparently) saying Lazarus and the LLA was inactive, and thinking that declaring war on them would drive activity by engaging the LLA in a proxy war? That doesn't make sense. It was anti-defender propagandist blustering, not some utilitarian decision to simply generate activity.

But, hey, have fun rewriting history and making your poor decisions seem like masterworks in hindsight. Chances are you'll be successful in doing so anyways.
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