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[PASSED] Condemn Gest

Postby Abacathea » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:51 am

To be honest, this is a little satirical, but I make no secret of my disdain for the riders at the best of times.

As always, feedback appreciated, tried to keep this one short and sweet though.
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Condemn Gest

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Gest | Proposed by: Abacathea


The Security Council;

Recognizing; the honorable nation of Gest as a high ranking, senior official in the region of The Black Riders, a region known for it's callous destruction of other regions, many of which have taken place under orders from or the supervision of Gest;

Believing; that it is by no means a small feat to repeatedly sack and destroy regions of varying sizes, especially ones that put up little in the way of resistance;

Understanding that the highest ranking members of The Black Riders simply cannot nor ever will stop their thirst for conquering regions large and small, primarily small;

While further believing that the nations of this Assembly have a right to be forewarned of this nation and that it would be lacking of the Security Council not to give Gest the international black mark it deserves;

Hereby;
Condemnds Gest.

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Condemn Gest

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Gest | Proposed by: Abacathea


The Security Council;

Recognizing; the "honorable" nation of Gest as a high ranking, senior official in the region of The Black Riders, a region known for it's callous destruction of other regions which claims to have successfully carried out over 2000 raids since 2011, many of which have taken place under direct orders from or the supervision of Gest;

Further recognizing the nation of Gest was one of the co-founders when The Black Riders were refounded by General Halcones, ultimately assisting the growth and redevelopment of The Black Riders into the strong region it has since become.

Noting that The Black Riders, under orders from Gest, have also assisted other significant raiding regions in their destruction of smaller regions, including, but not limited to, the recent capture of Sapphire by The Black Hawks.

Believing; that it is by no means a small feat to repeatedly sack and destroy regions of varying sizes, especially ones that put up little in the way of resistance and that many regions both large and small have eventually crumbled as a direct consequences of the actions of Gest, ultimately failing to ever recover from the damage caused as a result.

Aware that aside from regions sacked by direct orders from Gest, Gest has also directly participated in the successful recent sacking of Coffee House, Death Star and Orion, all of which are struggling to recover from the damage inflicted upon them.

Further aware of the sheer brutality and destruction Gest inflicts on captured regions demonstrated by the capture of Planet X whereby Gest oversaw the forced closure of close to 1000 diplomatic embassies held by the region at that time.

Convinced that as one of the highest ranking members of The Black Riders, Gest poses a considerable threat to international stability and regional security alike;

While further believing that the nations of this Assembly have a right to be forewarned of this nation and that it would be lacking of the Security Council not to give Gest the international black mark it deserves;

Hereby;
Condemns Gest.
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S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
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Postby Charax » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:27 am

What's with the last line?
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Postby Ontorisa » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:30 am

Charax wrote:What's with the last line?


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Postby Abacathea » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:51 am

Charax wrote:What's with the last line?


Ha I was too lazy to copy the header format with the image etc... So I just copied sc #1 and thought I deleted it all lol evidently not. Thanks for the heads up char!
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
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Postby Charax » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:52 am

;)
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Postby Abacathea » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:53 am

Charax wrote:;)


That minute cock up aside any thoughts? :)
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G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
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Postby Charax » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:58 am

Um... no. It'll pass, and I'm not clued enough on Gest to be able to contribute anything to it. Best of luck!
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Postby Frattastan II » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:41 pm

This is so generic it could be about any TBR member.
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Postby Feux » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:25 pm

Frattastan II wrote:This is so generic it could be about any TBR member.

Yeah, Fratt is right. :/
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Postby Abacathea » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:01 pm

Hmm fair point although it is an early draft. That said ill do some research before I further update the draft.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:16 pm

Understanding that the highest ranking members of The Black Riders simply cannot nor ever will stop their thirst for conquering regions large and small, primarily small;

That line just seems like filler to me.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:46 pm

At least Capitalize the The Black Riders
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Postby Abacathea » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:20 am

New, less generic draft posted. Few grammar errors missed in the first draft rectified.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
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Postby Patricant » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:29 am

Abacathea wrote:New, less generic draft posted. Few grammar errors missed in the first draft rectified.

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Postby SkyDip » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:32 am

Recognizing; the honorable nation of Gest

You call him honorable in the opening line and then proceed with Condemnation? Strange. :p
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Postby Abacathea » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:47 am

SkyDip wrote:
Recognizing; the honorable nation of Gest

You call him honorable in the opening line and then proceed with Condemnation? Strange. :p


I italicised it in an attempt to convey my sarcasm. If it's not coming across well I'll pull it. Smartass :p

Aside from that thoughts on this draft vs the former?
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
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Postby SkyDip » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:58 am

Looks very clean to me. I did spot a few minor things, and I have some suggestions as well.

Noting that The Black Riders(comma here) under orders from Gest(comma here) have also assisted other significant raiding regions in their destruction of smaller regions, including but not limited to The Black Hawks most recently in their procurement of Sapphire.

The end of this section is worded a little oddly for my personal taste, but it's grammatically correct. I might suggest changing it to:
Noting that The Black Riders, under orders from Gest, have also assisted other significant raiding regions in their destruction of smaller regions, including, but not limited to, the recent capture of Sapphire by The Black Hawks.


Believing; that it is by no means a small feat to repeatedly sack and destroy regions of varying sizes, especially ones that put up little in the way of resistance and that many regions both large and small have ultimately crumbled as a direct consequences of the actions of Gest ultimately (there should also be a comma here since you're expanding on another idea after this part and it reads as a run-on without one) failing to ever recover from the damage caused as a result.


Aware that aside from regions sacked by direct orders from Gest, they themselves have Gest has also directly participated in the successful recent sacking of Coffee House, Death Star and Orion, all of which are struggling to recover from the damage inflicted upon them.


Content-wise, I would maybe also include something about the multiple raids conducted in single updates.
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Postby Abacathea » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:09 am

SkyDip wrote:Looks very clean to me. I did spot a few minor things, and I have some suggestions as well.


Feedback always good.

SkyDip wrote:
Noting that The Black Riders(comma here) under orders from Gest(comma here) have also assisted other significant raiding regions in their destruction of smaller regions, including but not limited to The Black Hawks most recently in their procurement of Sapphire.

The end of this section is worded a little oddly for my personal taste, but it's grammatically correct. I might suggest changing it to:
Noting that The Black Riders, under orders from Gest, have also assisted other significant raiding regions in their destruction of smaller regions, including, but not limited to, the recent capture of Sapphire by The Black Hawks.


Agreed. Edited per your suggestion.

SkyDip wrote:
Believing; that it is by no means a small feat to repeatedly sack and destroy regions of varying sizes, especially ones that put up little in the way of resistance and that many regions both large and small have ultimately crumbled as a direct consequences of the actions of Gest ultimately (there should also be a comma here since you're expanding on another idea after this part and it reads as a run-on without one) failing to ever recover from the damage caused as a result.
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Edited, also didn't like the double usage of "ultimately" when I read it aloud, so edited that too.

SkyDip wrote:
Aware that aside from regions sacked by direct orders from Gest, they themselves have Gest has also directly participated in the successful recent sacking of Coffee House, Death Star and Orion, all of which are struggling to recover from the damage inflicted upon them.


Agreed and sorted.

SkyDip wrote:Content-wise, I would maybe also include something about the multiple raids conducted in single updates.


That sort of info would be over my head personally and leaving me open to attack in the debate portion. If it's something widely known amongst the community though I can only hope it would be a relevant factor in national heads when they have their voting hats on.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
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G.A #279; Right of Emigration
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S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
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S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:12 am

Noting that The Black Riders, under orders from Gest, have also assisted other significant raiding regions in their destruction of smaller regions, including, but not limited to, the recent capture of Sapphire by The Black Hawks.


I'm not entirely sure if that is accurate. Gest may have given the order, but someone should check because it may have been someone else in the General Staff of TBR. That having been said, Gest certainly has done so in various other cases. He also set a record I believe when we raided Planet X for most embassy closures in a single raid. I believe there were 1,000.
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Postby Abacathea » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:34 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Noting that The Black Riders, under orders from Gest, have also assisted other significant raiding regions in their destruction of smaller regions, including, but not limited to, the recent capture of Sapphire by The Black Hawks.


I'm not entirely sure if that is accurate. Gest may have given the order, but someone should check because it may have been someone else in the General Staff of TBR. That having been said, Gest certainly has done so in various other cases. He also set a record I believe when we raided Planet X for most embassy closures in a single raid. I believe there were 1,000.


I have it on good Authority that Gest has been ordering troops into Sapphire. Whether or not he gave the initial order or not I'm not sure, but it is fact that he has since ordered troops in.

If you could give me confirmation of the embassy closure issue though, I'd be happy to add it in to strengthen the case.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
(Co-Author)
G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Eist » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:08 pm

It's always hard to differentiate raiders from one another (compared to defenders) but I don't think Gest has done enough to justify this badge of honour. There are many gameplayers with a much better pedigree than him that have gone largely unnoticed in the SC. I will vote AGAINST this if it makes it to vote.
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Postby Abacathea » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:44 pm

Eist wrote:It's always hard to differentiate raiders from one another (compared to defenders) but I don't think Gest has done enough to justify this badge of honour. There are many gameplayers with a much better pedigree than him that have gone largely unnoticed in the SC. I will vote AGAINST this if it makes it to vote.


That's a shame Eist. I normally look forward to your weight in on my SC endeavours. I guess this will have to be just one of those times we disagree with each other. :)
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
(Co-Author)
S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Abacathea wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:
I'm not entirely sure if that is accurate. Gest may have given the order, but someone should check because it may have been someone else in the General Staff of TBR. That having been said, Gest certainly has done so in various other cases. He also set a record I believe when we raided Planet X for most embassy closures in a single raid. I believe there were 1,000.


I have it on good Authority that Gest has been ordering troops into Sapphire. Whether or not he gave the initial order or not I'm not sure, but it is fact that he has since ordered troops in.
Ah well in that case good research.

Abacathea wrote:If you could give me confirmation of the embassy closure issue though, I'd be happy to add it in to strengthen the case.
You can feel free to check out the region, he wiped nearly 1000 embassies off the place. He led the operation as its point.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:30 pm

Sovreignry wrote:*shudders*

That was a nightmare.

It was truly glorious.
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