Bullying, damaging or helpful?

[Wamitoria]

Only the strange, weird, out-of-place and insecure people are bullied. And they deserve it. See it as corrective treatment to get them to adjust themselves to the norm.

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

Poe's Law is so awesome.

[Zephie]

Only the strange, weird, out-of-place and insecure people are bullied. And they deserve it. See it as corrective treatment to get them to adjust themselves to the norm.

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

It's not those people, it's them.
Self-absorbed fucking assholes that feel better by fucking with people in their shitty, low IQ cliques.

They're the reason shit like this happens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edK5tf5_bL4 That's why I try to stop bullying whenever I could in school. I don't want them to go on a fucking rampage because of some smug asstickler fucking with him day in and day out.

But, when someone snaps, it's their fault and there's something wrong with the victim. All of a sudden all the pretentious assholes who wouldn't leave 'em alone are the victims. Because, who in the right mind would get pissed off from some kids fucking with them every. single. day? Oh, what a monster. Shooting people is bad, but people don't think right when they're blinded with rage and kids are constantly on their ass fucking with them like a log of shit that won't come out clean.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

Only the strange, weird, out-of-place and insecure people are bullied. And they deserve it. See it as corrective treatment to get them to adjust themselves to the norm.

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

I was picked on for being foreign, I had no foreign accent and I didn't look foreign...you sound alot like the people in my past revenge fantasies.

[Rhodmhire]

Sometimes people need to be made aware of their weaknesses, limitations, and negative or unappealing traits, lest they live in ignorance of them to the point where they find themselves in more socially awkward or even more harmful situations than that created by the realization being made by another party. If a kid smells like roadkill because he won't wear deoderant, tell him. You don't have to be a dick about it, but inform him of it and suggest he start using something to mask the smell. At the end of the day, you'll be doing the guy a favor. If anything, he might thank you for it. Things like that are completely fine, although they should be one time deals, or few and far between at most.

That being said, that is not to say that such people need to be made aware of these things, or worse, teased for them, through physical force or through persistent acts of verbal insults.

Nobody should have to put up with that, especially not on a regular basis.

[The Blue Plains]

You my dear sir sound like an http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html

Psst, Briggs-Meyers is full of crap. Just thought you should know.

I don't know they pretty much nailed me. They said "You might find these activities fulfilling:" And it was literally like every single activity I was doing at the time. *shrug*

[Arbites]

Like I said, I am no social darwinist. But I do realize that if it weren't for bullies, I'd have no social skills, freinds, or a life for that matter. I would be a complete and total loser who would be universally hated. Is bullying good, no. Has it helped me a lot? Yes.
Wussifying the whole world will not make there be less bullying or fix the problem. It will decrease bullying, but increase suicide.

Don't you see how you're degrading who you were? You accepted the bullies' insults as the truth, then abandoned who you were just to win their approval. This is not how anyone should handle bullying.

[Wisconsin7]

Physical is only damaging. Verbal is only helpful. Children discourage what adults will disapprove of in real life and what will hurt the recipients of the bullying later on. Fat people are less likely to be hired, for instance. The reason they are bullied is BECAUSE society disapproves of certain traits. If we want to stop bullying we can stop disapproving of those traits.

This is completely untrue. I speak from experience as I have been bullied physically and verbally. The latter is much worse. With physical bullying, you have a legal right to fight back. Physical wounds also heal much more easily than psychological damage. When I broke my hand, I had the cast off in a month. I have been seeing a therapist for several years and am still messed up.

[Arbites]

Only the strange, weird, out-of-place and insecure people are bullied. And they deserve it. See it as corrective treatment to get them to adjust themselves to the norm.

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

Oh look, an Internet Tough Guy. Guess this kind of thread brings them out.

[Rhodmhire]

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

Ha.

Bullshit.

You think some playground or middle/high school bullying, whatever it was, shaped even a single person to the point where they owed their entire adult live to those isolated incidents?

I have my doubts that youth, especially prior to high school, has anything to do with one's adult life in the long run. But even if it did, I doubt you had that much of an effect on anyone's future existence.

God, I can't stop laughing.

Also who are you to dictate what is normal or weird? What is in and out of line? How old were you? No older than 16, 17, maybe 18? I really want to know when this "youth" was, because quite frankly I don't think people under the age of 18 generally have the capacity to know what "normal" is.

And if they think they do, then they don't know what "normal" is.

Because there really is no "normal" when you get down to it.

[Britannic Realms]

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[Holy Trek]

Only the strange, weird, out-of-place and insecure people are bullied. And they deserve it. See it as corrective treatment to get them to adjust themselves to the norm.

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

I won't bring my children around you, then. I want my children to be who they are, irrespective of whether it falls within the 'norms'. Answer this: What the hell is 'normal' nowadays, when you can sit there and act so smug about an issue like that? Were you traumatized as a little kid?

[Wikkiwallana]

Psst, Briggs-Meyers is full of crap. Just thought you should know.

I don't know they pretty much nailed me. They said "You might find these activities fulfilling:" And it was literally like every single activity I was doing at the time. *shrug*

That's not really proof. Make it vague enough and everyone will think it describes them perfectly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect

[Wisconsin7]

Only the strange, weird, out-of-place and insecure people are bullied. And they deserve it. See it as corrective treatment to get them to adjust themselves to the norm.

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

Let me tell you something. Over the years, I have been bullied for three reasons. The first is religious differences. This I am willing to forgive, since it was in the third grade.
The second was that I was the new kid. I could not change that. I do not forgive that one.
The third is no reason. I know this; I asked.
I don't think you helped anyone. Best case scenario, they have lasting psychological damage. Worst case, they're maladjusted fuckwads who think they have the right to bully people. Like yourself.

[Holy Trek]

Like I said, I am no social darwinist. But I do realize that if it weren't for bullies, I'd have no social skills, freinds, or a life for that matter. I would be a complete and total loser who would be universally hated. Is bullying good, no. Has it helped me a lot? Yes.
Wussifying the whole world will not make there be less bullying or fix the problem. It will decrease bullying, but increase suicide.

Don't you see how you're degrading who you were? You accepted the bullies' insults as the truth, then abandoned who you were just to win their approval. This is not how anyone should handle bullying.

I certainly don't feel that way. I'm my own person, flaws and all. If the bullies don't like it, they can kiss my bony white a**

[Wamitoria]

Don't you see how you're degrading who you were? You accepted the bullies' insults as the truth, then abandoned who you were just to win their approval. This is not how anyone should handle bullying.

I certainly don't feel that way. I'm my own person, flaws and all. If the bullies don't like it, they can kiss my bony white a**

Besides, it doesn't really work. I've tried it. They just find new things to bully you for.

[Arbites]

Don't you see how you're degrading who you were? You accepted the bullies' insults as the truth, then abandoned who you were just to win their approval. This is not how anyone should handle bullying.

I certainly don't feel that way. I'm my own person, flaws and all. If the bullies don't like it, they can kiss my bony white a**

That was directed at him, specifically because from what he's said, he has basically let the bullies define who he is.

[IshCong]

Sometimes people need to be made aware of their weaknesses, limitations, and negative or unappealing traits, lest they live in ignorance of them to the point where they find themselves in more socially awkward or even more harmful situations than that created by the realization being made by another party. If a kid smells like roadkill because he won't wear deoderant, tell him. You don't have to be a dick about it, but inform him of it and suggest he start using something to mask the smell. At the end of the day, you'll be doing the guy a favor. If anything, he might thank you for it. Things like that are completely fine, although they should be one time deals, or few and far between at most.

Constructive criticism, handled in a polite and mature manner, is good.

That being said, that is not to say that such people need to be made aware of these things, or worse, teased for them, through physical force or through persistent acts of verbal insults.

Nobody should have to put up with that, especially not on a regular basis.

Bullying is bad.

[Rhodmhire]

Sometimes people need to be made aware of their weaknesses, limitations, and negative or unappealing traits, lest they live in ignorance of them to the point where they find themselves in more socially awkward or even more harmful situations than that created by the realization being made by another party. If a kid smells like roadkill because he won't wear deoderant, tell him. You don't have to be a dick about it, but inform him of it and suggest he start using something to mask the smell. At the end of the day, you'll be doing the guy a favor. If anything, he might thank you for it. Things like that are completely fine, although they should be one time deals, or few and far between at most.

Constructive criticism, handled in a polite and mature manner, is good.

That being said, that is not to say that such people need to be made aware of these things, or worse, teased for them, through physical force or through persistent acts of verbal insults.

Nobody should have to put up with that, especially not on a regular basis.

Bullying is bad.

Yes, my point exactly.

[Holy Trek]

Sometimes people need to be made aware of their weaknesses, limitations, and negative or unappealing traits, lest they live in ignorance of them to the point where they find themselves in more socially awkward or even more harmful situations than that created by the realization being made by another party. If a kid smells like roadkill because he won't wear deoderant, tell him. You don't have to be a dick about it, but inform him of it and suggest he start using something to mask the smell. At the end of the day, you'll be doing the guy a favor. If anything, he might thank you for it. Things like that are completely fine, although they should be one time deals, or few and far between at most.

Constructive criticism, handled in a polite and mature manner, is good.

That being said, that is not to say that such people need to be made aware of these things, or worse, teased for them, through physical force or through persistent acts of verbal insults.

Nobody should have to put up with that, especially not on a regular basis.

Bullying is bad.

There's 'constructive criticism'..then there's being an a**hole about something you don't like.

[Britannic Realms]

Only the strange, weird, out-of-place and insecure people are bullied. And they deserve it. See it as corrective treatment to get them to adjust themselves to the norm.

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

Tell me, do you support the eugenics movement?

[IshCong]

Constructive criticism, handled in a polite and mature manner, is good.



Bullying is bad.

There's 'constructive criticism'..then there's being an a**hole about something you don't like.

"handled in a polite and mature manner"

Constructive criticism, handled in a polite and mature manner, is good.



Bullying is bad.

Yes, my point exactly.

I know. I was agreeing with you.

[Rhodmhire]

Constructive criticism, handled in a polite and mature manner, is good.



Bullying is bad.

There's 'constructive criticism'..then there's being an a**hole about something you don't like.

Of course.

I can't say that there's a clear line for everyone distinguishing between the two, and someone could very easily be interpreted as mocking or even bullying someone over something irrelevant whereas they themselves believe they're just pointing something out more like constructive criticism. Also, something else which distinguishes the first and second scenarios I described is that the first is ideally singular, whereas the latter is, by definition, repetitive.

The repetition is one of the trademarks of classic bullying, and a huge factor in why it can be so detrimental to victims of the act.

[Novograd IV]

It's harmful to the victim, undoubtedly, but there can be some unexpected outcomes depending on your reaction.

I remember being held up by the neck in front of what couldn't have been less than 50 students and even a few teachers, multiple times. I kept a completely indifferent face until eventually he made me have a small breakdown, to everyone else it looked like I was laughing at him. He had me pretty shook at the time, especially when I saw some of the teachers just observing it. In the end, someone did step in. A lot of other people just dropped bullying me after that because 'I just don't give a fuck' according to them.

That said, I was quite paranoid that it would happen again, seeing as he wasn't excluded or anything. I saw him the next day, with the warning that I'd "better watch myself".

Yaaaaay, I got to tell part of my life story, can I have a cookie?

[Holy Trek]

Only the strange, weird, out-of-place and insecure people are bullied. And they deserve it. See it as corrective treatment to get them to adjust themselves to the norm.

I bullied a lot of kids in my younger years. I taught them to act normal. They owe their future to me.

Tell me, do you support the eugenics movement?

"KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!" couldn't resist

[Rhodmhire]

There's 'constructive criticism'..then there's being an a**hole about something you don't like.

"handled in a polite and mature manner"

Also this.

It's not as if you have to go up to someone and be a dick about what you're bringing up. In fact, it'd probably be something between two friends, in private. And even if it's misconstrued, at least then it still remains a singular instance, and it can be resolved more easily. If it's not resolved, then it's that one instance and it's probably going to be soon forgotten anyways.

Again, bullying is repetitive and it's goal is intentionally offending or harming someone else. It is far from being handled politely or maturely, aspects which are key to that first scenario.

I know. I was agreeing with you.

Mhm, I thought as much.