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Eeri
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Postby Eeri » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:40 pm

If there isn't already, I think a good issue would be to follow up "Where there's Smoke" would be someone complaining about the private fire protection service (if they chose that option).

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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:06 pm

Eeri wrote:(if they chose that option).

NS issues aren't usually that fine tuned. Sedgistan identified a few specific issues that required answer issues, but the vast majority of them don't store your options choices that way. "Where there's smoke" is not one of those issues.

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Panageadom
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Postby Panageadom » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:29 am

Not that I'll get a chance to work on it for a while (or any of the other things I've suggested), but I was wondering if there was wiggle room in a debate about whether men should have the right to demand their sexual partners have an abortion (in countries that have legalised abortion, of course) - "I pay the costs" vs "It's my body" vs "Why not make women pay the costs?". Or something.

I was also wondering, given that there are some legislation codes added (e.g. those used to realise that those that things that were banned were actually banned, for the accelerated issues program's issues), are they also coded from WA stuff? i.e. If there's an obvious legislative [effect] from the WA, can it influence a WA's nations issue pool?
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#310: Too Little Talk?
#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:38 am

Panageadom wrote:Not that I'll get a chance to work on it for a while (or any of the other things I've suggested), but I was wondering if there was wiggle room in a debate about whether men should have the right to demand their sexual partners have an abortion (in countries that have legalised abortion, of course) - "I pay the costs" vs "It's my body" vs "Why not make women pay the costs?". Or something.

I was also wondering, given that there are some legislation codes added (e.g. those used to realise that those that things that were banned were actually banned, for the accelerated issues program's issues), are they also coded from WA stuff? i.e. If there's an obvious legislative [effect] from the WA, can it influence a WA's nations issue pool?

I assume got your idea for the issue from this debate. If you can even make sense of that through all the awkward phrasing, I suppose there's a potential issue base in there somewhere.

As for the WA / Issue divide, it's pretty simple. Issues don't pay attention to the WA, and the WA doesn't pay attention to Issues. There's no way to code against the contradictions, so we don't even try. Each is a separate area of legislation.

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Postby Panageadom » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:38 am

Actually, no, but I'll take a look.
Author of Issues:
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#310: Too Little Talk?
#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

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If I ask a question on a proposed issue thread, then it's because I feel it's one you need to ask of your issue: I'm being Socratic and/or lazy.


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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:48 am

Shouldn't this thread's title be "The Authors' Lounge" rather than "The Author's Lounge"? There is more than one author involved, right?

:P
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:56 am

Bears Armed wrote:Shouldn't this thread's title be "The Authors' Lounge" rather than "The Author's Lounge"? There is more than one author involved, right?

Now THAT'S the kind of pedantry we should be encouraging.

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Postby Mousebumples » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:43 am

Not an issue author myself (I prefer to stick to the GA :P), but if general ideas are welcome, I'm happy to post here on occasion to offer some up for anyone/everyone to run off with, if it strikes them as interesting.

One thought I had as of late was inspired by the birth control debate going on in the US right now. It could possibly be treed with an abortion issue (i.e. abortions are skyrocketing in [Your Nation]), and making birth control more readily available is suggested by the Minister of Health. Some possibilities that spring to mind as issue choices are (A) free birth control; (B) mandatory birth control for all women who are under Age X or who aren't married or .... whatever; (C) making birth control available but letting the free market dictate affordability/access; (D) outlawing birth control; (E) outlawing birth control AND abortion; (F) ... whatever else you can come up with.

Heck, it's even possible that 2 or more separate issues could be culled from this (i.e. illegal abortions are skyrocketing due to abortion being recently outlawed), but I'll leave that up to whomever ends up working on this ... if anyone.
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Postby Fischistan » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:44 pm

With the whole debate about prostitution that aroused in the GA, I'm surprised that there isn't an issue about it.
(There isn't an issue about it, right?)
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Postby Sanctaria » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:51 pm

Fischistan wrote:With the whole debate about prostitution that aroused in the GA, I'm surprised that there isn't an issue about it.
(There isn't an issue about it, right?)


I can think of one off the top of my head - #106.
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Postby Fischistan » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:53 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Fischistan wrote:With the whole debate about prostitution that aroused in the GA, I'm surprised that there isn't an issue about it.
(There isn't an issue about it, right?)


I can think of one off the top of my head - #106.

Hmm. Surprised I haven't gotten that one yet.
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Postby Frenequesta » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:00 pm

Fischistan wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:
I can think of one off the top of my head - #106.

Hmm. Surprised I haven't gotten that one yet.

I've only seen that issue where civil freedoms are already low, you're a Civil Rights Lovefest.
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:00 pm

I was searching through my telegrams the other day and found out that I had some old issue drafts I left in storage that I never got around to submitting. A couple aren't that good compared to my current standards, one is no longer culturally relevant, but there's two I think could work.

The first is that @@LEADER@@'s popularity is declining in polls and your flunkies are trying to come up with ways to improve your popularity.

The second is about angry motorists complaining about "street parties" blocking traffic during the Olympics.

Would either of these work as issues? Seeing how I wrote these back in 2010, would they now be too similar to any existing issues?
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Postby Luna Amore » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:01 am

The popularity one could make a fun issue. Can't think of any similar issues of the top of my head.

I'm not so sure the other one is an issue that would be brought to the national level.
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Postby Fischistan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:45 pm

Luna Amore wrote:The popularity one could make a fun issue. Can't think of any similar issues of the top of my head.

I'm not so sure the other one is an issue that would be brought to the national level.

Kids being afraid of clowns is a national issue, so...
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:25 am

Fischistan wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The popularity one could make a fun issue. Can't think of any similar issues of the top of my head.

I'm not so sure the other one is an issue that would be brought to the national level.

Kids being afraid of clowns is a national issue, so...

Yes, there are issues in the game that probably wouldn't go to the leader of a country. But the clown issue is wacky and off the wall.

Two many cars parked in the street? Go tell the traffic cop.
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:04 pm

Luna Amore wrote:The popularity one could make a fun issue. Can't think of any similar issues of the top of my head.

I'm not so sure the other one is an issue that would be brought to the national level.

Bearing in mind that in the RL UK the government bothered to pass a national 'pooper-scooper' law for dog-owners... ;)
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Our population is approximately 20 million. We do have a national government, although its role is strictly limited. Economy = thriving. Those aren't "biker gangs", they're our traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies'... and are generally respected, not feared.
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Postby Panageadom » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:36 pm

Never liked the clown issue, myself. I could also see major disruptions as a result of the Olympics becoming a government stance, so my opinion is that that could be an issue.
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#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

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Nation of Quebec
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:21 pm

I have to agree with Pangeadom and Bears on this one. If a fear of clowns is enough to warrant a national government's attention, then I'm sure that an issue dealing with massive street parties is.
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Postby Fontoria » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:59 am

Yeah i've got one. A child was put in hospital by another child because he gained insperation from playing Modern Warfare 3. The options are eigther ban all violent vidio games, let them express themselves, or ban vidio games in general.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:16 am

Fontoria wrote:Yeah i've got one. A child was put in hospital by another child because he gained insperation from playing Modern Warfare 3. The options are eigther ban all violent vidio games, let them express themselves, or ban vidio games in general.
Rock-on, an absolutely great idea! :clap:

We've already got Video Games Too Violent, Say Parents on that topic.

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Postby New Ziedrich » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:23 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:I have to agree with Pangeadom and Bears on this one. If a fear of clowns is enough to warrant a national government's attention, then I'm sure that an issue dealing with massive street parties is.

Funny you should mention that, since the issue I submitted for the contest was about street parties turning into riots and such. Got rejected! :)

Hell if I know why, since I'd gotten laid off the very same day I got the rejection notice and deleted the telegram without reading it; not the classiest way to handle it, but it was like getting kicked in the balls after finding out your house burned down. Oh, well, no one to blame but myself. I can't remember if rejected contest issues were tossed in the general pool to be potentially edited and added the normal way. I kinda doubt it.

E: Thanks for the TG, Frisbeeteria! Should've known that proofreading at five in the morning would bite me in the ass.
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Postby Lenyo » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:21 am

Issue authors, NS has a noticeable dearth of communist and socialist issues, so anyone who authors a high-quality communist/socialist issue will receive my undying gratitude and have their issue spring-boarded into editing. Thank you. Below are a few suggestions, but feel free to invent your own.

  • Centralized/decentralized economic planning
  • Electing/appointing managers
  • Electing/appointing officers
  • Autarky
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:50 pm

Autarky? Now that's a word I've never heard before. I still got a few of my own ideas to work with before I even consider attempting any of those.

I hope you guys don't mind me asking, but any idea when some of the accelerated issues will start appearing? I'm still waiting for word back on my adultery one that got accepted a while ago.
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