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Who is the most important person in history?

Jesus Christ
144
35%
Muhammad
16
4%
Albert Einstein
16
4%
Charles Darwin
46
11%
Christopher Columbus
4
1%
James Watt
3
1%
Johann Gutenberg
22
5%
Abraham
17
4%
Benjamin Franklin
6
1%
Other
138
33%
 
Total votes : 412

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Postby PDRF » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:49 pm

Dovahkiin. Who else is going to save us from Dragons?

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Postby AETEN II » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:50 pm

PDRF wrote:Dovahkiin. Who else is going to save us from Dragons?

AND A HUNDRED INTERNETS GOES TO PDRF!
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:12 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Probably God.

Theism vs. atheism aside, would a deity count as a person?

I believe so.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:14 pm

For me it's really hard to pick one for all of history and its more who was the most important person for each time period.

Classical Times:
Aristotle or Hippocrates
Middle Ages:
Genghis Khan or Charlemagne
Renaissance:
Copernicus
Enlightenment
John Locke or Montesquieu
19th Century:
Darwin or Marx
20th Century:
FDR or Einstein
21st Century:
Too early to tell.

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Postby Klowr » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:16 pm

Napkiraly wrote:For me it's really hard to pick one for all of history and its more who was the most important person for each time period.

Classical Times:
Aristotle or Hippocrates
Middle Ages:
Genghis Khan or Charlemagne
Renaissance:
Copernicus
Enlightenment
John Locke or Montesquieu
19th Century:
Darwin or Marx
20th Century:
FDR or Einstein
21st Century:
Too early to tell.


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Postby Forsher » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:18 pm

Napkiraly wrote:For me it's really hard to pick one for all of history and its more who was the most important person for each time period.

Classical Times:
Aristotle or Hippocrates
Middle Ages:
Genghis Khan or Charlemagne
Renaissance:
Copernicus
Enlightenment
John Locke or Montesquieu
19th Century:
Darwin or Marx
20th Century:
FDR or Einstein
21st Century:
Too early to tell.


Why these particular choices?
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:20 pm

Forsher wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:For me it's really hard to pick one for all of history and its more who was the most important person for each time period.

Classical Times:
Aristotle or Hippocrates
Middle Ages:
Genghis Khan or Charlemagne
Renaissance:
Copernicus
Enlightenment
John Locke or Montesquieu
19th Century:
Darwin or Marx
20th Century:
FDR or Einstein
21st Century:
Too early to tell.


Why these particular choices?

They seem quite philosophy orientated.

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:40 pm

Forsher wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:For me it's really hard to pick one for all of history and its more who was the most important person for each time period.

Classical Times:
Aristotle or Hippocrates
Middle Ages:
Genghis Khan or Charlemagne
Renaissance:
Copernicus
Enlightenment
John Locke or Montesquieu
19th Century:
Darwin or Marx
20th Century:
FDR or Einstein
21st Century:
Too early to tell.


Why these particular choices?

Aristotle because he is still possibly one of the most influential men of all time, even after 2300 years and his work in the sciences provided a stepping ground for many throughout the ages. Hippocrates because he is the founder of modern medicine.
Charlemagne because he implemented quite some progressive reforms for his time and was an advocate for education among all classes as he believed it strengthened the nation and he began to rebuild a good chunk of Western Europe. Genghis Khan simply because he developed an empire that would, along with its successor states, influence Asia and Europe.
Copernicus due to his work in astrology especially the heliocentric model. As well as just being a very influential scientist and astrologer. Inspired many other astrologers such as Galileo and Kepler
Locke for his social contract and Montesquieu for he expansion of the social contract and his influence on the development of constitutions.
Darwin for his theory on evolution and Marx for his development of Communism, which even though I disagree with it, has played a major role in world history up until the late 20th century and you still have many supporters of it. He also inspired many workers rights movements and other leftist movements.
FDR for fixing America's economy and leading it through WWII, which by war's end was one of the world's two superpowers or three is you still considered the BE to be a superpower immediately afterwards. Einstein for his work in physics relating to special relativity, speed of light, and his influence in developing the Manhattan project.
Honestly even I feel as though it's an injustice, there are simply too many influential people for each time period relating to different fields or aspects of life that they influenced. It truly is hard to say who was the most out of everything, but since I'm being asked to these are my choices.

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:43 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Why these particular choices?

They seem quite philosophy orientated.

I'm a bit biased towards philosophy and political science since those fields interest me the most. :p

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Postby Shnercropolis » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:14 pm

Gutenburg.
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:54 pm

astrix the gaul. just for fun (astrix vs chuck noris vs jackie chan?)

well i probably shouldn't repeat, but really the unknown nameless ones who invented agriculture and harnessed fire. also art and writing.

second to them, everyone who worked on the bomb.

everything else comes after that.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:57 pm

The person who invented those little and colorful paper umbrellas that are placed in your tropical cocktails and pina coladas.

Those things have brought countless hours of happiness to social drinkers everywhere.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:19 am

Astrolinium wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
The definition is arbitrary. Life is a massive shade of gray that goes back to the origin of all matter. Life is just part of the original singularity of matter by another name.



Okay,let me rephrase my original statement:
All the people listed are insignificant compared to the first ones to do really important things, like discover fire or evolve into homo sapiens sapiens.
But these are events occuring in prehistory, not history.
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Considering that Copernicus, Kepler, Galilei, Buffon, Bacon, Descartes and and and... Had no particular problems with contributing, I find this assertion to be questionable. Particularly in the light of Newton's astrological tendencies, and his conflict with Leibnitz, which set mathematics in England back by a substantial margain, an error that took its sweet time to fix. Oh, did I mention that a lot of his work not just in mathematics, but physics as well, occured near-simultaneously with that of others, such as the aforementioned Leibnitz as well as others (Gravesande)?

And he wasn't exactly free of errors, given that he was convinced that kinetic energy of an object is proportional to its velocity, as opposed to the square of its velocity. Took a french woman (Emilie du Chatelet) to prove him wrong.

So yeah. Newton is... Expendable.

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Postby Risottia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:20 am

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Postby Risottia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:22 am

AETEN II wrote:
PDRF wrote:Dovahkiin. Who else is going to save us from Dragons?

AND A HUNDRED INTERNETS GOES TO PDRF!
Give him a hand folks!

Check if he's the REAL Dovahkiin before. Put an arrow in his knee and see how he reacts.
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Postby The USOT » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:21 am

Im going to have to go with Jesus Christ.

His church has by and large destroyed the pagan cultures of europe, and would lead on to justify the cultures of feudal christian europe.

It is that culture which (with roman influence) dominated planet earth and has largely in one way or another shaped the political systems of almost every different country, and therefore a peoples way of life (with notable exceptions).

Whatever the truth of his life is, I seriously cant think of any other historical entity who`s legacy has done so much (for good and ill)
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Postby Forsher » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:28 am

The USOT wrote:Im going to have to go with Jesus Christ.

His church has by and large destroyed the pagan cultures of europe, and would lead on to justify the cultures of feudal christian europe.

It is that culture which (with roman influence) dominated planet earth and has largely in one way or another shaped the political systems of almost every different country, and therefore a peoples way of life (with notable exceptions).

Whatever the truth of his life is, I seriously cant think of any other historical entity who`s legacy has done so much (for good and ill)


I would go with Abraham over Jesus. For the sheer fact we get three major religions. That said, the only true competitors are those that pioneered the wheel, fire, metal refinery and maths/navigation.
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Postby Spiral Sun » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:32 am

Definetly Jesus.
You're so nice.
You're not good,
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You're just nice.
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I'm not nice,
I'm just right.
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Postby Spiral Sun » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:34 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:The person who invented those little and colorful paper umbrellas that are placed in your tropical cocktails and pina coladas.

Those things have brought countless hours of happiness to social drinkers everywhere.

The mass producer should aslo get some credit, meaning it was no longer simply for the rich.
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Postby The USOT » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:37 am

AETEN II wrote:
PDRF wrote:Dovahkiin. Who else is going to save us from Dragons?

AND A HUNDRED INTERNETS GOES TO PDRF!
Give him a hand folks!

One hundred and 20! He has the communeof france flag XD
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Peter Timmerman, “Defending Materialism"

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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:20 am

Since without writing there can be no history, then the Sumerian scribe who invented writing is the most important person in history.

If I remember correctly, his name was Meskalamdug. I used to laugh at him for those silly little symbols he used to leave on clay tablets, but Farnhamia thought he was on to something.

Alright, Farn... 5000 years on, I might finally be willing to grudgingly admit that you had that one right.

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Postby Spiral Sun » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:21 am

The Archregimancy wrote:Since without writing there can be no history, then the Sumerian scribe who invented writing is the most important person in history.

If I remember correctly, his name was Meskalamdug. I used to laugh at him for those silly little symbols he used to leave on clay tablets, but Farnhamia thought he was on to something.

Alright, Farn... 5000 years on, I might finally be willing to grudgingly admit that you had that one right.

When did he become a scribe, exactly?
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:34 am

Spiral Sun wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Since without writing there can be no history, then the Sumerian scribe who invented writing is the most important person in history.

If I remember correctly, his name was Meskalamdug. I used to laugh at him for those silly little symbols he used to leave on clay tablets, but Farnhamia thought he was on to something.

Alright, Farn... 5000 years on, I might finally be willing to grudgingly admit that you had that one right.

When did he become a scribe, exactly?

It was around 3200 BCE, give or take. Honestly, I've forgotten the exact year. And it was a process, you know. Writing grew out of the marks put on the clay seals on amphorae that described what was inside.

*bows to Arch* I get them right now and then, huh? I do remember that once you learned cuneiform, we couldn't stop you from writing down every idea that popped into your head. I used to get complaints from the Clay Syndicate, "Lady, would you have a word with Master Thrungur? He's used up all the fresh tablets writing some story about the King of Uruk."
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Postby West Failure » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:56 am

Writing is important, but I would also like to nominate the person who invented numbers and counting. Though no doubt they are from prehistory rather than history.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:59 am

West Failure wrote:Writing is important, but I would also like to nominate the person who invented numbers and counting. Though no doubt they are from prehistory rather than history.

Numbers are from the same firm that gave us writing, really. In fact, counting marks really came before "word" marks. Hell, I can remember lying in the underbrush with my father and uncles, counting the aurochs and horses on a branch.
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