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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:44 pm

Maybe this should be pursued...I have a nation in the TBR, and they are indeed fiends who raid on a regular basis...

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:47 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:Maybe this should be pursued...I have a nation in the TBR, and they are indeed fiends who raid on a regular basis...


:rofl:

You know you just want that shiny badge for TBR :P
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Postby The Bruce » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:09 am

It's getting harder to condemn any one raider group, since typically invasions these days are done by 5-6 invader groups amassing a 10-12 actual invaders at the update. After the update they find a way to get numbers, but not so much during the update. There are a few too many "army of one" raider groups out there right now. It's almost like they're politely taking turns taking the spot of invader lead and most of the credit.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:49 pm

The Bruce wrote:It's getting harder to condemn any one raider group, since typically invasions these days are done by 5-6 invader groups amassing a 10-12 actual invaders at the update. After the update they find a way to get numbers, but not so much during the update. There are a few too many "army of one" raider groups out there right now. It's almost like they're politely taking turns taking the spot of invader lead and most of the credit.


We are taking turns leading. That's what happens when you need to go for larger targets. You need to work together. Maybe the defenders should try it :p
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Postby Unibot II » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:23 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
The Bruce wrote:It's getting harder to condemn any one raider group, since typically invasions these days are done by 5-6 invader groups amassing a 10-12 actual invaders at the update. After the update they find a way to get numbers, but not so much during the update. There are a few too many "army of one" raider groups out there right now. It's almost like they're politely taking turns taking the spot of invader lead and most of the credit.


We are taking turns leading. That's what happens when you need to go for larger targets. You need to work together. Maybe the defenders should try it :p


Or we could just beat all your asses with one org. :P
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Postby SunRawr » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:28 pm

Unibot II wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:
We are taking turns leading. That's what happens when you need to go for larger targets. You need to work together. Maybe the defenders should try it :p


Or we could just beat all your asses with one org. :P

We'll be waiting.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:49 am

Unibot II wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:
We are taking turns leading. That's what happens when you need to go for larger targets. You need to work together. Maybe the defenders should try it :p


Or we could just beat all your asses with one org. :P


We're waiting.
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Postby Mahaj » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:55 am

This thread is sad.
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<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:01 am

Mahaj wrote:This thread is sad.


This has been a fact since post 1 ...

Even the OP has abandoned
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Postby Merodin » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:09 am

Mahaj wrote:This thread is sad.

I actually find it quite humorous... :lol:
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:29 am

So now Tim is left here to wage verbal warfare with Uni, and all the while TBR is still off raiding successfully.

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Postby SunRawr » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:59 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Unibot II wrote:
Or we could just beat all your asses with one org. :P


We're waiting.

Why does my echo have a pink flag? >.>

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Postby Mahaj » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:37 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:So now Tim is left here to wage verbal warfare with Uni, and all the while TBR is still off raiding successfully.

5 orgs + others who haven't identified via flag v. one org and it was reasonable, if not for quick kicking skills.

What a wonderful success.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:40 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:So now Tim is left here to wage verbal warfare with Uni, and all the while TBR is still off raiding successfully.

5 orgs + others who haven't identified via flag v. one org and it was reasonable, if not for quick kicking skills.

What a wonderful success.

I'd say the 16 fendas knocked off is fairly impressive if nothing else.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:47 pm

SunRawr wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:
We're waiting.

Why does my echo have a pink flag? >.>


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Postby SunRawr » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:14 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
SunRawr wrote:Why does my echo have a pink flag? >.>


Jenrak Support. I'm probably eliminating all but one ribbon soon.

>.> The joke was more about the "echo" part. I always figured my echo would have a similar flag to mine. I have pink ribbons on most of my flags, I just forgot to put it on this one when I added the censored stamp. See HawkRawr and Raidergirnia.


I think TBR has done plenty to deserve a badge. As far as I can tell they are fairly similar to The Black Hawks, who already have one.
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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:44 pm

Well, as some have pointed out, The Black Riders have only been around for about 6 months...it might be worth waiting around to see how they develop and condemn them at a more auspicious time.

Note that I'm not opposed to a condemnation of TBR - I'm just convinced that their greatest atrocities are ahead of them, not behind. The timing of this proposal might be a bit off.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:03 pm

Crushing Our Enemies wrote:Well, as some have pointed out, The Black Riders have only been around for about 6 months...it might be worth waiting around to see how they develop and condemn them at a more auspicious time.

Note that I'm not opposed to a condemnation of TBR - I'm just convinced that their greatest atrocities are ahead of them, not behind. The timing of this proposal might be a bit off.

That's a good point. Many more evuls to come! *raises glass in toast*

For curiosity's sake, does anyone know how old TBH were when they got condemned?

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Postby SunRawr » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:17 pm

Crushing Our Enemies wrote:Note that I'm not opposed to a condemnation of TBR - I'm just convinced that their greatest atrocities are ahead of them, not behind. The timing of this proposal might be a bit off.

That is a good point. Although if they commit further atrocities, they could try for a second badge! (If that is possible :?)

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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:18 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:For curiosity's sake, does anyone know how old TBH were when they got condemned?

About four or six years, depending on how you count. TBH was originally founded in July 2005, but went inactive and was reborn in April 2007. The condemn resolution passed in April 2011.
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Postby Flemingovia » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:53 am

A bunch of TBH wannabes who do nothing more than play king of the hill - a game even my 8 year old son has grown out of.

Opposed until they hit puberty.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:23 am

Crushing Our Enemies wrote:
Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:For curiosity's sake, does anyone know how old TBH were when they got condemned?

About four or six years, depending on how you count. TBH was originally founded in July 2005, but went inactive and was reborn in April 2007. The condemn resolution passed in April 2011.

So it took TBH quite a long time to get theirs. Many, many more evuls must be committed in order for this to pass, then!

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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:54 am

Well, also keep in mind that condemnation resolutions have only existed since 2009...

And Flem, they are far more than TBH wannabes. They are our sister region, and in many ways have surpassed our raw military capabilities.
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Postby Mahaj » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:21 pm

Crushing Our Enemies wrote:Well, also keep in mind that condemnation resolutions have only existed since 2009...

And Flem, they are far more than TBH wannabes. They are our sister region, and in many ways have surpassed our raw military capabilities.

Lets just say that Gest has surpassed TBH and leave it at that.

Cuz TBR doesn't have anybody else lead. like, ever.
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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:22 pm

I didn't mention leadership. I said "raw military capability". I've observed on average that TBR has more updaters than we do.

EDIT: Also, the leadership structure of TBH is unusual for raider regions. Typically, only one or maybe two members of the region lead raids, i.e. whoever is in charge. The TBH model is a departure from historically popular raider military structures.
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