What is the worst atrocity?

[Bluth Corporation]

There's more to being human than mere biology.

To be human, one must also live in a manner in accordance with that proper for humans: namely, to live by reason rather than by brute force.

It is absurd to claim that one is "human" when the referent has renounced the single most important attribute that distinguishes man from the lesser beasts.

[Getbrett]

No such limits exist.

So it would be ok to kill someone in "self-defense" if they punch you?

Yes.

By assaulting you, he renounced his own humanity. Since he is no longer human, he is fair game.

All animals are fair game. Humans are animals. All humans are fair game.

[LOL ANARCHY NUBZ]

There's more to being human than mere biology.

To be human, one must also live in a manner in accordance with that proper for humans: namely, to live by reason rather than by brute force.

It is absurd to claim that one is "human" when the referent has renounced the single most important attribute that distinguishes man from the lesser beasts.

Meh, Humans ARE beasts.

[Alsatian Knights]

The Invention of the Mullet....

[Callisdrun]

what is the worst atrocity here in your opinon, and why?

Your birth.

[Zeppy]

Why does the Atom Bomb exist? Why do people kill other people with guns?


Because Humans started Thinking, thats why. So really i nip all of your ideas in the bud.

The root of everything done by humanity is because we've always thought.

I don't see how that nips my ideas.

What if we didn't think?

OH NOES THE INTERWEBZ IS GONE!

[Zeppy]

Why is the Armenian Genocide not even on the poll?

They don't matter.

Really? Serj Tankian and the Kardashians beg to differ.

They don't matter either.

Serj does. Kardashinans are just tumors of sexiness.

[Alsatian Knights]

Why does the Atom Bomb exist? Why do people kill other people with guns?


Because Humans started Thinking, thats why. So really i nip all of your ideas in the bud.

The root of everything done by humanity is because we've always thought.

I don't see how that nips my ideas.

What if we didn't think?

OH NOES THE INTERWEBZ IS GONE!

If we did think then I think (lawl) that if I met you in a world with out thought I would see you as either a) potential mate (ladies ) or b.) a potential threat (guys ) and act accordingly.

[NERVUN]

what is the worst atrocity here in your opinon, and why?

Your birth.

Callisdrun, I think what you're attepting here is humor, but it's going a bit too far. Warned for flamebaiting. You've been racking up the warnings today and we'd hate to have to trot out a ban hammer for ya. If you're getting a bit too involved, why not take the rest of the day off and go enjoy the fall weather?

[Hamilay]

I'm pretty sure there was more than one Chinese revolution.

[Yink]

This topic.

Choice 1: A lot of people died that didn't derve it.
Choice 2-10: Same as 1.
(Note: more have died in some of these than others)

If I don't chose 1: "What about the Rwandans,you monster!"
If I don't chose either of 2-10: "What about the [ethnicity/religion/nationality/etc. of the murdered/oppressed/etc.], you monster!"

They are all horrible, horrible tragedies and what has happened to them must never be forgotten. But, I think it is very cruel to ask someone to name the worst of the worst when in comes to atrocities. None of these are personal to me (the closest they get are: I watched Hotel Rwanda, I read Night and watched Schindler's List among some research activities, I learned extensively about various Native American cultures in my anthropology classes, I have a deep appreciation for Japanese culture and history and have read much on the atomic bombs) so I and, in my personal opinion, everyone on the board are not qualified to answer this poll. That is, unless, someone has a personal connection to any of these. Even so, unless you've experienced them all, you couldn't say.

Worst cop-out ever, I know. But, I don't see any of you writing a long-winded post on anything like this.

Sorry for the long post, but I usually get a little preachy at 3 in the morning.
'Kay. Bed ti

Edit: Based on replies to the topic, I'm getting the feeling that this is a joke topic. If not, shame on you guys. If so, I'll calm down and I'll stop being such a bleeding-heart or something. It's 4:23, I can't help it.

[Allbeama]

Why is the Armenian Genocide not even on the poll?

They don't matter.

Really? Serj Tankian and the Kardashians beg to differ.

They don't matter either.

Do you think Armenian's are less human than Sudanese, or Jews? Seriously?

[Zandan]

No such limits exist.

So it would be ok to kill someone in "self-defense" if they punch you?

Yes.

By assaulting you, he renounced his own humanity. Since he is no longer human, he is fair game.

Wow...try saying that for your defense in court buddy.

[Skibereen]

what is the worst atrocity here in your opinon, and why?

I vote other.
You(like most people) ignore the very successful holocaust of the native American tribes of North America. Systematic deliberate extermination of not only people but culture, religion and even language. An elegant piece of butchery by any definition made only more beautiful by the fact that it is completely ignored and written off.
..::waits for the slew of people saying it wasnt that bad::.

[Skibereen]

There's more to being human than mere biology.

To be human, one must also live in a manner in accordance with that proper for humans: namely, to live by reason rather than by brute force.

It is absurd to claim that one is "human" when the referent has renounced the single most important attribute that distinguishes man from the lesser beasts.

I thought it was our capacity for war, deception, and completely senseless destruction that distinguished us from lower beasts who always have genuine reason for force as opposed to the typical 'human' reasons.

[Callisdrun]

There's more to being human than mere biology.

To be human, one must also live in a manner in accordance with that proper for humans: namely, to live by reason rather than by brute force.

It is absurd to claim that one is "human" when the referent has renounced the single most important attribute that distinguishes man from the lesser beasts.

I thought it was our capacity for war, deception, and completely senseless destruction that distinguished us from lower beasts who always have genuine reason for force as opposed to the typical 'human' reasons.

Not really. Animals fight over power and territory, too. Chimpanzees even have something very much like our war, though more primitive, obviously.

Most human wars are fought over the same things that theirs are... power, territory, resources, sometimes dressed up nicer but still usually about those base things. It's just that we've become much more efficient at killing.

[Skibereen]

Then I was partially correct it is indeed our capacity for war, deception, and senseless destruction. Because I doubt animals engage in brutality for brutalities sake nearly as much as man.

[The Scandinvans]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbI7gxxbYpo

The concept of altruism is the worst atrocity ever enforced upon humanity.

[Blouman Empire]

Actually, the disease was meant.

In all cases?

I suppose the disease that the Americans unleashed on the Europeans the same could be said.

[Blouman Empire]

No one mentions the acts committed by Stalin?

Disappointed NSG deeply deeply disappointed.

[Skibereen]

Actually, the disease was meant.

In all cases?

I suppose the disease that the Americans unleashed on the Europeans the same could be said.

What disease might that be?

The two primary diesease unleashed on the Native American Population were Small Pox and Influenza. However almost every European borne disease was vastly more efficient in harming the Native Americans for various logical reasons related to mutation. The same reason that leave the Europeans shrugging off anything encountered here.
So just what disease was it that you are speaking of? I like to read, and the idea I missied something like an Epidemic among Europeans caused by exposure to native american diseases fascinates me.

[Blouman Empire]

Actually, the disease was meant.

In all cases?

I suppose the disease that the Americans unleashed on the Europeans the same could be said.

What disease might that be?

The two primary diesease unleashed on the Native American Population were Small Pox and Influenza. However almost every European borne disease was vastly more efficient in harming the Native Americans for various logical reasons related to mutation. The same reason that leave the Europeans shrugging off anything encountered here.
So just what disease was it that you are speaking of?

Syphilis.

[LOL ANARCHY NUBZ]

Why is the Armenian Genocide not even on the poll?

They don't matter.

Really? Serj Tankian and the Kardashians beg to differ.

They don't matter either.

Serj does. Kardashinans are just tumors of sexiness.

Nope, and no.

[Skibereen]

Fascinating. Good night.

[Blouman Empire]

Ah, so you didnt have any idea what you were talking about. That figures. I should have realized coming from you there would be no insight. I must be tired to have considered you were aware of something I wasnt. Wow. You never disappoint.

I presumed you are talking to me here, syphilis did come into Europe after the Europeans had made contact of course I'm sure you are backing up Alexlantis post that in all cases diseases were deliberately spread out into the Americas.