[SUBMITTED] Repeal "Legalizing Prostitution"

[The Republic of Lanos]

We could repeal it on category strength...right? Or perhaps that we don't actually reside with the WA... Or...

It just needs to go. Now.

[Dizyntk]

That's my point; by outlawing brothels and collective prostitution chains, you are effectively banning the main concern of this repeal; organized crime. You must also adhere to the provisions of the LWA, which ensures that all employees, self-employed or otherwise, recieve adequate pay. Therefore, prostitution not only becomes profitable through this resolution, but by taking your approach, organized crime is diminished into non-existence. Problem solved; the only issue remaining is national sovereignty, which a repeal cannot be based upon.

Yours in twisted irony,

"A self-employed individual is responsible for making sure they recieve adequate pay. It is not the govermnet's job to do so. They know the fees and taxes involved with whatever particular business they are engaged in and set their prices to customers accordingly. Therefore the wage of a prostitute is completely up to them."

[The Republic of Lanos]

That's my point; by outlawing brothels and collective prostitution chains, you are effectively banning the main concern of this repeal; organized crime. You must also adhere to the provisions of the LWA, which ensures that all employees, self-employed or otherwise, recieve adequate pay. Therefore, prostitution not only becomes profitable through this resolution, but by taking your approach, organized crime is diminished into non-existence. Problem solved; the only issue remaining is national sovereignty, which a repeal cannot be based upon.

Yours in twisted irony,

"A self-employed individual is responsible for making sure they recieve adequate pay. It is not the govermnet's job to do so. They know the fees and taxes involved with whatever particular business they are engaged in and set their prices to customers accordingly. Therefore the wage of a prostitute is completely up to them."

Which in itself is sad. There's no minimum pay for a prositute's actions and there's no real way to establish income/minimum pay for them. This opens up a tax issue which most of them won't want to deal with though that would be less stressful to deal with than being raped or murdered.

[Gaeus]

Why is this here?
Foolish.

We just finished this.
The vote was cast.
One side won.
The other side lost.

Give up and go home.

[Dizyntk]

Why is this here?
Foolish.

We just finished this.
The vote was cast.
One side won.
The other side lost.

Give up and go home.

"Oh no, Ambassador. The rules of this chamber are quite clear. We may attempt to repeal any resolution as often as we like."

[The Republic of Lanos]

Why is this here?
Foolish.

We just finished this.
The vote was cast.
One side won.
The other side lost.

Give up and go home.

"Oh no, Ambassador. The rules of this chamber are quite clear. We may attempt to repeal any resolution as often as we like."

Especially that the resolution is so full of holes, it must go. Haphazard enforcement, no enforcement, and mass RAGEquits (RAGE RAGE RAGE) from the WA not seen since...who knows. That's why.

[Connopolis]

That's my point; by outlawing brothels and collective prostitution chains, you are effectively banning the main concern of this repeal; organized crime. You must also adhere to the provisions of the LWA, which ensures that all employees, self-employed or otherwise, recieve adequate pay. Therefore, prostitution not only becomes profitable through this resolution, but by taking your approach, organized crime is diminished into non-existence. Problem solved; the only issue remaining is national sovereignty, which a repeal cannot be based upon.

Yours in twisted irony,

"A self-employed individual is responsible for making sure they recieve adequate pay. It is not the govermnet's job to do so. They know the fees and taxes involved with whatever particular business they are engaged in and set their prices to customers accordingly. Therefore the wage of a prostitute is completely up to them."

That's not my point. As stated in LWA, you cannot affect an individuals pay to the point where they are no longer meeting the resolutions provisions; self-employed or otherwise.

Yours,

[Dizyntk]

"A self-employed individual is responsible for making sure they recieve adequate pay. It is not the govermnet's job to do so. They know the fees and taxes involved with whatever particular business they are engaged in and set their prices to customers accordingly. Therefore the wage of a prostitute is completely up to them."

That's not my point. As stated in LWA, you cannot affect an individuals pay to the point where they are no longer meeting the resolutions provisions; self-employed or otherwise.

Yours,

"You miss my point, Dr. Forshaw. As long as we are not taxing all of their money, then it is still possible for them to earn a living. It is up to them to decide if they believe that they can make enough to pay all fees and taxes and still make enough money to live on."

[Balaerica]

No! It's fine! Leave it be!

[Crystal Spires]

For the repeal.

[Arivali]

Wouldn't the Living Wage Act determine how much prostitutes are paid? Why is it when people get their panties in a bunch over something moralistic they conveniently forget things.... Legalized businesses can be regulated. People can die from poor healthcare, so I'm betting most of you have some laws to make sure that doesn't happen, on top of whatever WA resolutions there are on the subject. You probably have laws making sure the food your people eat is safe.

Organized crime is still illegal. Human trafficking is still illegal. Taking advantage of a prostitute is now illegal because the resolution says prostitutes have the right to refuse a client, and they can report such abuse to the authorities without fear of being arrested themselves. What's the problem here, making law enforcement to their jobs? Oh, how awful! *rolls eyes*

Let's move on to the morality issue. This isn't forcing anyone to go run to a brothel and buy sex. Those that do it now it's legal were probably doing it when it was illegal. Some might have wanted to, but didn't because of the law. But even then, it was only the law stopping them, not their morals or religion.

What is so wrong about letting individuals decide? Those who are opposed because of morality or religion are not going to suddenly run out and buy a prostitute. They'll still be against it. And those who didn't care are still going to not care. The only difference is we now have a new industry to tax that we couldn't before because it was under the table. Because of this, my citizens are getting a tax cut, and they couldn't be more thrilled.

[Dinkamana]

Wouldn't the Living Wage Act determine how much prostitutes are paid? Why is it when people get their panties in a bunch over something moralistic they conveniently forget things.... Legalized businesses can be regulated. People can die from poor healthcare, so I'm betting most of you have some laws to make sure that doesn't happen, on top of whatever WA resolutions there are on the subject. You probably have laws making sure the food your people eat is safe.

Organized crime is still illegal. Human trafficking is still illegal. Taking advantage of a prostitute is now illegal because the resolution says prostitutes have the right to refuse a client, and they can report such abuse to the authorities without fear of being arrested themselves. What's the problem here, making law enforcement to their jobs? Oh, how awful! *rolls eyes*

Let's move on to the morality issue. This isn't forcing anyone to go run to a brothel and buy sex. Those that do it now it's legal were probably doing it when it was illegal. Some might have wanted to, but didn't because of the law. But even then, it was only the law stopping them, not their morals or religion.

What is so wrong about letting individuals decide? Those who are opposed because of morality or religion are not going to suddenly run out and buy a prostitute. They'll still be against it. And those who didn't care are still going to not care. The only difference is we now have a new industry to tax that we couldn't before because it was under the table. Because of this, my citizens are getting a tax cut, and they couldn't be more thrilled.

This times 10.

[Crystal Spires]

It is a mandated binding legislation to all World Assembly members and some World Assembly members wish to have their own choice whether or not it is illegal or not in their nation. Before this legislation Prostitution was still legal in many member states, but now for a member state to have prostitution illegal is against international law. Your idea of letting individuals decide rings false. Why can't individual nations decide for themselves? This is a binding legislation.

[The New Imperia]

"For the repeal. While my nation sees no problem with prostitution, it is unfair for certain cultures to be forced into this. The WA has no right to force something of this kind upon a nation that has based it's values differently than most others."

[Dizyntk]

Wouldn't the Living Wage Act determine how much prostitutes are paid?

"No it would not. It would only do so if prostitutes were employees of a brothel and were paid by said brothel. As independent contractors they are self-employed and therefore responsible for their own wages. As I have already pointed out, my nation has made brothels illegal hence all potential prostitutes there are not applicaple under LWA."

[Toronina]

Toronina has no intention of supporting this proposal.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

How is it terribly flawed? It endorses people's rights, at no expense, to the benefit of the economies of all WA nations, while ensuring sufficient regulation to keep people as safe as they already are. It makes it easier to regulate the business of prostitution, putting us in a better position to end uncontrolled trafficking and end the uncontrolled spread of diseases. That's why most nations didn't oppose it.

But it also puts people at risk too, ambassador. There appears to be no safety net.

No safety net? How about the

confines of previously existent international law

How about:

Prostitutes and member states that reside with the World Assembly MUST ABIDE to the following statements:
(1) Prostitutes are made fully aware of the health or other specific risk connected to prostitution;
(2) A prostitute has the right to refuse any sexual act;
(3) A prostitute has the right to create a contract with his/her/its client agreeing on specific details.

PROHIBITS the following:
(1) Sexual penetration to happen without some form of sexual protection, unless both sides consent to not using any form of sexual protection;
(2) Any government to stop a sapient being from acquiring this profession; within the confines of previously existent international law.

FURTHER PROHIBITS Individual member-states regulating prostitution-based enterprises to the point where it no longer becomes profitable for the enterprise, or its employees; member-states must also refrain from instilling negative ramifications on prostitutes for pursuing the profession with the intent of stymieing the industry.

Isn't that enough? Or if it isn't, surely more regulations could solve any objections you may have remaining and so make a more sensible and more widely supported proposal?

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

1. OUTRAGED that the resolution failed to consider justifiable grounds for outlawing or restricting prostitution because:
a) Legalization of prostitution may create a breeding ground for human trafficking for sexual purposes, assault, procuring and drug-dealing - and that legalising it may make the problem worse;
b) Allowing everyone to enter the prostitution industry can compromise the welfare of vulnerable and low-income individuals;
c) Legalization of prostitution may be a form of sexual assault whereas a client may take advantage of a prostitute;

'May', 'can', 'may'; we could say the same things about universities. Furthermore, as sexual assault, procuring, and drug-dealing have probably all been banned by everybody, such acts would be illegal, so therefore there's no problem. This is already regulated.

2. REGRETTING that the resolution concerned legitimised the placing of individuals in situations where they can be subjected to sexual abuse and grave health risks;

See above.

3. POINTING OUT that legalizing prostitution increased sexual objectification in society, thereby compromising the public mental health and emotional well-being;

We suppose by this argument we must also act quickly to outlaw barbie dolls (not to mention sexual intercourse)?

5. RECOGNIZING that the resolution concerned does not specifically require measures to be taken to prevent the spread of venereal disease, which may pose a threat to public health;

We agree that a proposal should be written regulating this matter, and this matter only requires further regulation.

[Crystal Spires]

How does one endorse the proposal?

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

How does one endorse the proposal?

By becoming a WA delegate, I believe.

[Conservita Victoria]

Ambassadors of the General Assembly,

We find ourselves in an issue where half of the room want to legalise on the basis that Governments can look after the prostitutes and the other half are pulling out handkerchiefs and fainting dramatically at the idea of legal prostitutes.

Such an issue is never going to be an open and closed case and instead of insta-repealing a resolution that has passed why not aim to find a common ground? Perhaps by adding clauses that give individual nations the freedom to manipulate what is legal or what isn't legal because the issue, I fear, is based upon "decency" which is more than likely based upon the region of religion that oh so keeps cropping up along with the unique stance of the leader/nation. If everyone wanted to make prostitution illegal then a resolution making prostitution legal would never have been passed in the first place.

The benefits of prostitution are, while difficult to see, there. For one, having prostitutes freely available allows for the sexually deprived of our nations a chance to release their frustrations upon a passive member of the public who is offering him/herself for money. Thus, the frustrations of the person are no longer a ticking time bomb that may explode into areas of rape. I for one do not fancy having several rape cases to deal with when I could easily make prostitution legal, of which we shall continue to do.

Another point is that I can make sure that all people are safe within my realm, regardless of activity because under past laws the prostitute would have to find a doctor who was sympathetic to prostitutes so that he/she may be able to cure whatever ailment they have without having to fear a sentence for breaking the law. Now, under new laws, prostitutes are free to enter any clinic/doctors surgery, provided they are suitably attired, and have themselves cared for. Returning back to illegality will result in vast numbers returning to stealth or going without and ultimately damaging themselves permanently.

Might I also point out that it is the area of the nation's healthcare services to provide the care and not the place of the World Assembly to order what need to be done regarding the type of healthcare given because I have a feeling that anyone who asks for help will be given it in our modern times.

I would also like to point out that prostitution is about as inevitable as the rains. No amount of laws will stop a person making the willful/forced choice to sell themselves for money. It is a fact of life.

1. OUTRAGED that the resolution failed to consider justifiable grounds for outlawing or restricting prostitution because:
a) Legalization of prostitution may create a breeding ground for human trafficking for sexual purposes, assault, procuring and drug-dealing - and that legalising it may make the problem worse;
b) Allowing everyone to enter the prostitution industry can compromise the welfare of vulnerable and low-income individuals;
c) Legalization of prostitution may be a form of sexual assault whereas a client may take advantage of a prostitute;

I would like to further point out that the above is simply pointing out that which happens regardless of legality just with it being illegal there is more. With it being legal my Government is aware of the brothels and is setting up better ones that are more areas that incorporate all forms of pleasure so that I can further make sure that everything is regulated as nothing, much like an ordinary business, won't go ahead without the Manager's approval. Ergo, nothing illegal will go on. Prostitutes will have alarms fitted into the room, that, in my opinion is a must in case one is taken advantage of.

Therefore, I am fully opposed to this repeal noting that the repeal would cause more harm than good and, should this repeal ever pass know that I will defy it with every fiber of my being knowing that I will be helping my people better and that, dear Ambassadors, is the greatest duty we/our leaders must do with the utmost seriousness.

Regards

King Rinamir Mortem II

[Crystal Spires]

Using that same appeal,

Slavery should be legal too. This illustrates the hypocrisy of such a mindset. The truth is it's a way to use women as objects and means to an end in an exploitative relationship.

[The cold ice]

you have my vote

[William Delaney III]

It sounds to me like aiding and abetting "Sharia law." On one hand, we should allow individual states to apply sensible regulations to their prostitution industries. However, let's maintain a clamp-down on archaic laws that have women beheaded, having been accused of "prostitution" just for leaving home with their veils on too loose! No to appeasing the filthy terrorists!

[Knootoss]

We find ourselves in an issue where half of the room want to legalise on the basis that Governments can look after the prostitutes and the other half are pulling out handkerchiefs and fainting dramatically at the idea of legal prostitutes.

No. We find ourselves in an issue where 51% of the room wishes to force its domestic policies on the other 49%. Prostitution is legal and regulated in Knootoss, but we are staunchly opposed to this international diktat.

Such an issue is never going to be an open and closed case and instead of insta-repealing a resolution that has passed why not aim to find a common ground? Perhaps by adding clauses that [...]

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