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Postby Kalaspia-Shimarata » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:55 pm

Are there any laws on visiting someone in your nation?
In Kalaspia-Shimarata, you must give atleast 72 hours notice AND it is illegal to invite yourself, you must ask them if you can come, and NOT say I'm coming at x time and x date. If you can prove someone has disobeyed the law, you can take them to court as and try them as a tresspasser. This is because people deserve privacy and notice. You can't just ring up on the home phone and say "I'm about to turn into your street now" and your naked. People also deserve to know that you're coming, what if you're about to go out and visitors just show up?
Obviously, if you have no objection to this person inviting themself, it is in that situation legal, but if the police happen to be driving by, you might be asked to them written permition, unless you're a door to door salesperson, a preacher or someone from a religion.
What about your nation?
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Postby Valkyrjan » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:56 pm

No.. Wait what? No.. Of course we do not have such a law.
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Postby Marxist Equines » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:41 pm

Why would we have such silly laws like that? We couldn't possibly throw a surprise party if we ruined the surprise! Everypony knows that!

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Postby Kalaspia-Shimarata » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:44 pm

Marxist Equines wrote:Why would we have such silly laws like that? We couldn't possibly throw a surprise party if we ruined the surprise! Everypony knows that!

Hmmm...we never thought about that...we may need to review the law...although, unless you live alone, it shouldn't be a problem!
Kalaspia-Shimarata's flag represents the Union between K&S. The dark blue represents the sea and the light blue represents the sky. In Kalashi language considers light blue and dark blue to be different colours. England colonised, and unified K&S, between 1774 and 1953, and English, light blue and dark blue are considered to be the same colour. Therefore, the contrast between dark blue and light blue represents the union, but the differences between K&S where as blue being two but simultaneously one colour represents K&S being two, but simultaniously one entity. The opposite to the symmetry represents the unity and indipendance of K&S, whilst also representing the Kalashi culture of opposite symmetry.KS is 75% Christian, hence the cross.

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Postby Vorond » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:48 pm

No, why would we legislate such a thing? Sounds ridiculous frankly.
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Postby Saurisisia » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:03 pm

Wow, that's pretty nonsensical.
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Postby Dizyntk » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:06 pm

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Postby Makaar » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:58 pm

In Makaar, any person is permitted on private property so long as the property is "open to the public" - that is, it must be unsecured. Breaking a lock to enter a building is a crime, but entering an unsecured building is not, unless you intend to steal something in which case it is burglary.

If you are asked by the landowner to leave the property, you must do so immediately. Failure to do so is trespass. Statute law provides police the power to use force to eject trespassers from private land, and common law holds that landowners may use reasonable force to ensure the ejection of a trespasser who fails to remove themselves.
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Postby Unhiding » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:34 pm

Generally our technical level allows us wide variety of tools for communication. Visiting other people's homes personally happens daily of course but with the way our civilization has spread over dozens of planets means that most of our communication happens in virtual space.

Visiting notices are still more personal thing. Some like to be informed while others are more casual about it.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:38 pm

No, doing that isn't treason, so it's legal.

If a Decepticon doesn't want someone on his land, he'll either blast the offender or simply hide until he goes away, depending on his relationship with said offender.

Trying to push a religion door-to-door would be very risky business here; there is always some hothead who'll blast at an unwanted stranger. Fortunately, Machinists aren't into doing that, and the prostlytizing human-centric religions haven't gotten to first base getting even one Cybertronian convert let alone enough to go bug people. Something about saying humans have been specially "saved" doesn't go over on a planet that doesn't have any humans on it.
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Postby Salvarity » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:38 pm

Lance Nagals Response to this law: Wadafuq is wrong with that damn nation. Havn't the had enough crack.

These laws are crazy and they suck. and we have nothing like these laws
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Postby Seperate Vermont » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:02 pm

Typically people visit each other, the state isn't involved. It's a personal arrangement, as it should be.
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Postby Scat-Land » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:01 am

Private property doesn't exist in Scat-Land, so this doesn't necessarily apply to us.
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Postby Sremski okrug » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:08 am

We don't have such a law and we laugh at nations that do.
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Postby Dagnia » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:18 am

Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:Are there any laws on visiting someone in your nation?
In Kalaspia-Shimarata, you must give at least 72 hours notice AND it is illegal to invite yourself, you must ask them if you can come, and NOT say I'm coming at x time and x date. If you can prove someone has disobeyed the law, you can take them to court as and try them as a trespasser. This is because people deserve privacy and notice. You can't just ring up on the home phone and say "I'm about to turn into your street now" and your naked. People also deserve to know that you're coming, what if you're about to go out and visitors just show up?
Obviously, if you have no objection to this person inviting themself themselves, it is in that situation legal, but if the police happen to be driving by, you might be asked to them written permition permission, unless you're a door to door salesperson, a preacher or someone from a religion.
What about your nation?


No, we have no such laws. People often come to another's home unannounced, even people who are not close friends. Guests are treated very well, no matter how unexpected. We really find this law you have ridiculous.
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Postby Malgrave » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:43 am

Why would anyone have such a law?
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Postby Izzyshipper » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:03 am

No, as our lawmakers actually possess a competent brain.
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Postby Vortiaganica » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:19 am

Wait.

Why are door-to-door salesmen allowed to doorknock without warning, when a man's son, lawyer, doctor or partner is not?
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Postby Kalaspia-Shimarata » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:10 am

Malgrave wrote:Why would anyone have such a law?

Because I have the same problem OOCly and the Kalashi are too good for this kind of crap
Vortiaganica wrote:Wait.

Why are door-to-door salesmen allowed to doorknock without warning, when a man's son, lawyer, doctor or partner is not?

(Belive me, I've alot of OOC experience with this):
Because door-to-door salespeople don't show up, invite themselves in without you being prepared to let them in, and verbally abuse for not being home when these idiots deside to show up and expect you to be home 24/7 in the off chance you come to visit, or accusing you of making up s-t about having other plans to avoid the person, when you are really not making up excuseses, then you go gossiping and that gossip is used for more verbal abuse against you...
NO! The Kalashi no longer stand for this, so we created the law. Unfortunatly, it hasn't worked as they get pressured to give them passes to allow them to come uninvited (e.g. by saying "Why don't you give me a pass you don't like me visiting, do you") and this kind of pressure is making this law cancil itself out, so the law is currently in review
Kalaspia-Shimarata's flag represents the Union between K&S. The dark blue represents the sea and the light blue represents the sky. In Kalashi language considers light blue and dark blue to be different colours. England colonised, and unified K&S, between 1774 and 1953, and English, light blue and dark blue are considered to be the same colour. Therefore, the contrast between dark blue and light blue represents the union, but the differences between K&S where as blue being two but simultaneously one colour represents K&S being two, but simultaniously one entity. The opposite to the symmetry represents the unity and indipendance of K&S, whilst also representing the Kalashi culture of opposite symmetry.KS is 75% Christian, hence the cross.

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Postby Swilatia » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:45 am

Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:(silly rant)

Obviously you haven't had a whole lot of door-to-door salespeople come to your place. Now you're actually making me wonder what your penalty for beaking this law is. Let me guess, does it involve cutting people's arms off? You seem to like doing that to your people.

Anyway, we don't have such a stupid law in Swilatia. Honestly, who the hell actually gives 72 hours notice for this kind of stuff? Besides, a much easier way to deal with people "inviting themselves in" would be to simply lock your door...
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Postby Kalaspia-Shimarata » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:52 am

Swilatia wrote:
Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:(silly rant)

Obviously you haven't had a whole lot of door-to-door salespeople come to your place. Now you're actually making me wonder what your penalty for beaking this law is. Let me guess, does it involve cutting people's arms off? You seem to like doing that to your people.

Anyway, we don't have such a stupid law in Swilatia. Honestly, who the hell actually gives 72 hours notice for this kind of stuff? Besides, a much easier way to deal with people "inviting themselves in" would be to simply lock your door...

1.No, they recive a warning, then a fine, then they face court
2.You clearly don't live in a Greek family to know what 72 hours warning is
3.I've had door-to-door salesmen, they don't invite themselves in
4.It's not literal, but not allowing them in causes more problems
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Kalaspia-Shimarata's flag represents the Union between K&S. The dark blue represents the sea and the light blue represents the sky. In Kalashi language considers light blue and dark blue to be different colours. England colonised, and unified K&S, between 1774 and 1953, and English, light blue and dark blue are considered to be the same colour. Therefore, the contrast between dark blue and light blue represents the union, but the differences between K&S where as blue being two but simultaneously one colour represents K&S being two, but simultaniously one entity. The opposite to the symmetry represents the unity and indipendance of K&S, whilst also representing the Kalashi culture of opposite symmetry.KS is 75% Christian, hence the cross.

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Postby Central Lothian » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:59 am

Dagnia wrote:
Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:Are there any laws on visiting someone in your nation?
In Kalaspia-Shimarata, you must give at least 72 hours notice AND it is illegal to invite yourself, you must ask them if you can come, and NOT say I'm coming at x time and x date. If you can prove someone has disobeyed the law, you can take them to court as and try them as a trespasser. This is because people deserve privacy and notice. You can't just ring up on the home phone and say "I'm about to turn into your street now" and your you're naked. People also deserve to know that you're coming, what if you're about to go out and visitors just show up?
Obviously, if you have no objection to this person inviting themself themselves, it is in that situation legal, but if the police happen to be driving by, you might be asked to them written permition permission, unless you're a door to door salesperson, a preacher or someone from a religion.
What about your nation?


No, we have no such laws. People often come to another's home unannounced, even people who are not close friends. Guests are treated very well, no matter how unexpected. We really find this law you have ridiculous.


OOC - You missed one. I've added it to the OP. Also, thank god for the "Post Preview", in light of this:

Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:1.No, they recive a warning, then a fine, then they face coart


How do you face "coart"?

IC - From our Department of Kalaspia-Shimarata-Related Affairs (previously called "Department of Kalasparata-Related Affairs"): "We know you've come up with some odd sh!t, this is one of the oddest ones." We have no such laws in CL. We also have a serious question: If you have to ask for permission 72 hours before you arrive, what happens if you need to call an ambulance? ("Hello, I'm planning on having a heart attack on Tuesday at 7.13pm.")
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Postby Malaysii » Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:24 am

Izzyshipper wrote:No, as our lawmakers actually possess a competent brain.

This.

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Postby Tnidd » Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:51 am

Using a home for meeting people without an official permit to do so is illegal assembly and dealt with by the Inquisition.

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