a tax on negative externalities. like pollution.
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by Free Soviets » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:19 pm

by OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:22 pm
Burning Passion wrote:I have no idea what 'pigouvian' means, but it sounds right so sure.

by Burning Passion » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:36 pm

by Wikkiwallana » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:42 pm
Burning Passion wrote:How about this, dump the current tax system, set up some taxes that are not allowed to change, give the republican/stupid civilians some taxes that are allowed to be changed to play around with, and than (just for fun) abolish political parties and the right to run ad campaigns.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Amannn » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:47 pm

by Wikkiwallana » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:51 pm
Amannn wrote:the republicans are corprate robots exept for Ron paul the demacrats are to theyre like feed me money me say what you want global warming is a hoax the only truth theve said and heres what else they sa por middle class increase taxes riches take this money tax cuts these scum will get deafeted
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Burning Passion » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:54 pm
Wikkiwallana wrote:Err... Hell no. Inflexible systems collapse when situations change, and removing the right to run ad campaigns would mean no one would know who is running.
Wikkiwallana wrote:Amannn wrote:the republicans are corprate robots exept for Ron paul the demacrats are to theyre like feed me money me say what you want global warming is a hoax the only truth theve said and heres what else they sa por middle class increase taxes riches take this money tax cuts these scum will get deafeted
I'm sorry, could you please put some punctuation in that? I shorted out and got lost half way in. The only thing I could understand for sure was "politicians bad".

by Wikkiwallana » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:58 pm
Burning Passion wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:Err... Hell no. Inflexible systems collapse when situations change, and removing the right to run ad campaigns would mean no one would know who is running.
I said some taxes that can't change, I.E. Income tax. And if politicians weren't allowed to do ad campaigns they would do it they way they used to. They could talk on the radio, the tv, the internet, just because they aren't allowed to shove a disgusting quantity of ads designed to do nothing other than dominate the weak minded down your throat doesn't mean they can't communicate.Wikkiwallana wrote:I'm sorry, could you please put some punctuation in that? I shorted out and got lost half way in. The only thing I could understand for sure was "politicians bad".
I wonder if he'll start screaming 'Grammar Nazi'? And I had a similar problem.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Burning Passion » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:05 pm
Wikkiwallana wrote:You called the changeable taxes ones "to play around with", implying that they wouldn't be ones of significant impact. And all that talking is part of an ad campaign, except it is a part limited to people already interested in whatever show they are on.

by Wikkiwallana » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:11 pm
Burning Passion wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:You called the changeable taxes ones "to play around with", implying that they wouldn't be ones of significant impact. And all that talking is part of an ad campaign, except it is a part limited to people already interested in whatever show they are on.
My bad, it's two in the morning and I should have specified the difference. And honestly, if people want to know who is running for a government position, fuck them they can look it up. Besides, I don't vote, so I don't bitch about who gets put in office, if some one in office does something monumentally stupid, then i'll complain. Which leads into my next bit, make paying taxes optional, you pay the taxes you get the benefit, some one breaks into your house, tough luck you don't pay taxes, your house burning down? Tough luck, the fire fighters will show up to keep the fire from spreading but other than that your house will burn, how much you bet people would stop complaining then?
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Khihaizi » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:14 pm
There would obviously be some sight which lists candidates and their positions.Wikkiwallana wrote:Burning Passion wrote:How about this, dump the current tax system, set up some taxes that are not allowed to change, give the republican/stupid civilians some taxes that are allowed to be changed to play around with, and than (just for fun) abolish political parties and the right to run ad campaigns.
Err... Hell no. Inflexible systems collapse when situations change, and removing the right to run ad campaigns would mean no one would know who is running.

by Ashmoria » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:35 am
Burning Passion wrote:How about this, dump the current tax system, set up some taxes that are not allowed to change, give the republican/stupid civilians some taxes that are allowed to be changed to play around with, and than (just for fun) abolish political parties and the right to run ad campaigns.

by The Black Forrest » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:39 am
Ashmoria wrote:Burning Passion wrote:How about this, dump the current tax system, set up some taxes that are not allowed to change, give the republican/stupid civilians some taxes that are allowed to be changed to play around with, and than (just for fun) abolish political parties and the right to run ad campaigns.
sure
we have a test for how well that will work when the congress comes back. the gas tax needs to be reauthorized.
it should be "fun" to see if they decide to gut our highway maintenence funds too.

by Pyschotika » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:25 am

by Great Darthidium » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:25 am

by Ashmoria » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:12 am
The Black Forrest wrote:Ashmoria wrote:
sure
we have a test for how well that will work when the congress comes back. the gas tax needs to be reauthorized.
it should be "fun" to see if they decide to gut our highway maintenence funds too.
Ash you forgot the play book. They gut the highway maintenance fund for more tax cuts for the Job Creators TM and then privatize it! That way the stressed Job CreatorsTM can have an option for private toll lanes and have a less stressful commute to work. This way they can think about all the jobs they will create with all the money they will get.

by New Chalcedon » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:26 pm

by Allemonde » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:51 pm
by Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:12 am

by The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:00 am
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:If they tax the working classes when where will the next generation of rich people come from?

by Burning Passion » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:36 pm
Allemonde wrote:Wow Repubs are big hypocrites who knew? They really need that 4th mansion and 5th Ferrari/Rolls/Bently but the poor don't need to eat/healthcare/jobs homes. We can live in boxes and eat catfood, if were lucky
Hey guys enjoy while you got it cause I see a trip to see Madame Guillotine in your future

by Gauthier » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:41 pm
Burning Passion wrote:Allemonde wrote:Wow Repubs are big hypocrites who knew? They really need that 4th mansion and 5th Ferrari/Rolls/Bently but the poor don't need to eat/healthcare/jobs homes. We can live in boxes and eat catfood, if were lucky
Hey guys enjoy while you got it cause I see a trip to see Madame Guillotine in your future
The Person who invented the Guillotine was a man, Dr. Guillotine

by Burning Passion » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:49 pm
Gauthier wrote:
Except the guillotine was referred to as Madame Guillotine, especially around the period of the French Revolution. Thank you come again.

by Seangoli » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:23 pm
Ashmoria wrote:Burning Passion wrote:How about this, dump the current tax system, set up some taxes that are not allowed to change, give the republican/stupid civilians some taxes that are allowed to be changed to play around with, and than (just for fun) abolish political parties and the right to run ad campaigns.
sure
we have a test for how well that will work when the congress comes back. the gas tax needs to be reauthorized.
it should be "fun" to see if they decide to gut our highway maintenence funds too.

by Seangoli » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:25 pm
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:If they tax the working classes when where will the next generation of rich people come from?
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