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Postby Christian Democrats » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:58 pm

And why is banning forced marriage bad?
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

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^ repealed resolution
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Postby Metanih » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:59 pm

Primo Victoria wrote:I will be resigning from the WA in protest of the Forced Compliance policy. My nation was forced to comply with the "Forced Marriages Ban Act". As such, it has become apparent that I no longer rule the nation, instead it is ruled by a conglomerate of foreign diplomats. Under Primo Victorian law, only a follower of Odin may lead the nation and take the mantle of Jarl, and few of the diplomats fit the bill.

AND...

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Postby Mesoland » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:59 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:And why is banning forced marriage bad?


His nation is obviously Pro-Forced Marriage.

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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:59 pm

Primo Victoria wrote:I will be resigning from the WA in protest of the Forced Compliance policy. My nation was forced to comply with the "Forced Marriages Ban Act". As such, it has become apparent that I no longer rule the nation, instead it is ruled by a conglomerate of foreign diplomats. Under Primo Victorian law, only a follower of Odin may lead the nation and take the mantle of Jarl, and few of the diplomats fit the bill.

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Postby United Casio » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:01 pm

Primo Victoria wrote:I will be resigning from the WA in protest of the Forced Compliance policy. My nation was forced to comply with the "Forced Marriages Ban Act". As such, it has become apparent that I no longer rule the nation, instead it is ruled by a conglomerate of foreign diplomats. Under Primo Victorian law, only a follower of Odin may lead the nation and take the mantle of Jarl, and few of the diplomats fit the bill.


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Postby Goobergunchia » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:01 pm

Primo Victoria wrote:I will be resigning from the WA in protest of the Forced Compliance policy. My nation was forced to comply with the "Forced Marriages Ban Act". As such, it has become apparent that I no longer rule the nation, instead it is ruled by a conglomerate of foreign diplomats. Under Primo Victorian law, only a follower of Odin may lead the nation and take the mantle of Jarl, and few of the diplomats fit the bill.


The Liberal Unitary Republic would be interested in acquiring the office space of the Primo Victorian ambassador.

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Postby Dizyntk » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:02 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:And why is banning forced marriage bad?

His is obviously a patriarchal society that gets it's jollies in bullying women around. I suppose I could be wrong on this, but I doubt it.
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Postby Wiztopia » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:41 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:And why is banning forced marriage bad?


I gave my reasons why in this particular case it is bad.

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Postby Punk Reloaded » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:06 pm

I had voted against, but the region was very much in favor and so I switched my vote.

Not required by our constitution but I like to listen to the masses.

I see no problem with arranged marriages.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:09 pm

Punk Reloaded wrote:I see no problem with arranged marriages.

. . . which remain legal.
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
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Postby Free Pangea » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:14 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Punk Reloaded wrote:I see no problem with arranged marriages.

. . . which remain legal.

As long as those getting married are willing of course ;) .
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:05 am

Goobergunchia wrote:
Primo Victoria wrote:I will be resigning from the WA in protest of the Forced Compliance policy. My nation was forced to comply with the "Forced Marriages Ban Act". As such, it has become apparent that I no longer rule the nation, instead it is ruled by a conglomerate of foreign diplomats. Under Primo Victorian law, only a follower of Odin may lead the nation and take the mantle of Jarl, and few of the diplomats fit the bill.


The Liberal Unitary Republic would be interested in acquiring the office space of the Primo Victorian ambassador.

If they have an office, of course...
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Postby Linux and the X » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:12 am

Primo Victoria wrote:I will be resigning from the WA in protest of the Forced Compliance policy. My nation was forced to comply with the "Forced Marriages Ban Act". As such, it has become apparent that I no longer rule the nation, instead it is ruled by a conglomerate of foreign diplomats. Under Primo Victorian law, only a follower of Odin may lead the nation and take the mantle of Jarl, and few of the diplomats fit the bill.

You mean the policy you agreed to upon joining?

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Postby Southern Patriots » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:18 am

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Postby Tweegee » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:41 pm

Well done everybody! Nobody is forced to marry anymore!

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Postby Kurdazistan » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:36 pm

Dead Rubber Chickens wrote:Now we need more freedoms if people arent agreeing with this maybe they want a dictatorship or something rather...

I just dont understand if people dont want these freedoms what do they want in real life?

Anyway i think you already now that i wanted it banned and at least thats what we ended up getting in the end


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Postby Quelesh » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:33 pm

Congrats, CD, for writing and passing a resolution that has nothing to do with abortion. :D

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Iksalvor wrote:While I would agree forced marriages are an assault on personal liberties, the bill's definition of a "forced marriage" can include arranged marriages initiated by cultural tradition in which one of the members is unwilling. Such a case is something which those involved would have to manage, not the Assembly.


If one of the parties to a marriage is unwilling to get married, and they are compelled to get married anyway, then that certainly is a forced marriage, and it should definitely be criminal.

The Eternal Kawaii wrote:We see nothing unreasonable in our nation's laws that require the parents of a child born out of wedlock to be married. Children have a right to have their parentage legitimized, and as they cannot uphold this right for themselves, the State must uphold it for them.


I assume that your nation also allows (in fact, mandates) polygamy then, if the biological parents of children must be married. If a married man fathers a child with a woman who is not his wife, your nation forces him to have two wives? It also forces a woman to have two, three, or possibly more husbands if she has had children with more than one man?

I support the legalization of polygamy, but I certainly oppose forced polygamy, or any kind of forced marriage, as your nation (no longer, thankfully) practices.

Funj wrote:While we acknowledge that the practice of Forced Marriages might seem barbaric to a number of nations within these halls, they do form an inherent part of native traditions in other nations around this world. As such, it must be up to these nations and its people to decide on the fate of their traditions and whether they want to adjust and/or abolish it.


Some cultures also have a tradition of female genital mutilation, but that has rightly been prohibited.

Funj wrote:One cannot use global directives to abolish traditions, some of which have been practiced for thousands of years among different peoples. Any attempt to do so can only be considered as a highly undesirable neo-colonialist policy towards the indigenous peoples of many nations around the globe.


If said traditions violate the rights of individuals, we most certainly can abolish them.

Iksalvor wrote:Forced into a contract? Isn't that what being a member of the Assembly does to nations who are in dissent over a resolution?


No, because member states are free to resign from the World Assembly at any time.

The Eternal Kawaii wrote:It is because this is a civil rights issue that we oppose this measure. In the Eternal Kawaii, legitimate parentage is a civil right. If a couple brings a child into this world and does not legitimize that birth through marriage, they have denied that child its rights, and thus the State must step in to uphold them. This resolution undercuts our nation's ability to guarantee the rights of all of its citizens.


Why is marriage necessary in order for parentage to be legitimate?

Cenetra wrote:One would also assume that in such a culture sex outside of marriage would be highly frowned upon if it was legal at all.


GAR16 requires that consensual sex outside marriage be legal.
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