Herrebrugh wrote:
Heh. I feel sick.
It just occurred to me, but your nations title is sort of like an onomatopoeia of someone being sick.
Irony?
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by Octabrinaland » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:50 pm
Herrebrugh wrote:
Heh. I feel sick.
by The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:51 pm
Deus in Machina wrote:Yes, I am a woman. That's just the way the fucking genetic crapshoot rolled and I have to live with it. Doesn't mean you have to point it out all the time.
Sin City the movie was decent, but Robert Rodriguez was holding his hand the entire time. You wanna see what it looks like when Frank Miller tries to direct a movie on his own, watch The Spirit.
As for his body of work in comic books, I just don't think there's anything of value. Dark Knight Returns was a total destruction of the character of Batman and its sequel was immeasurably worse, 300 was nothing but macho fascist posturing with giggle-worth homoerotic undertones,
Sin City was genetic noir pulp devoid of any artistry. It doesn't help that the artists he works with are universally terrible and that he's utterly incapable of creatign a female character who isn't a prostitute.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Lucent Dawn » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:51 pm
Grenartia wrote:Deus in Machina wrote:Now THAT is a good idea. It follwos the same path as the unravelling of the mysteries surrounding the main character. The more we learn about her, the more we are drawn into her mind and the illusions of normalcy crumble.
That's kind of what I was thinking.
@ Uncle Vlad- Well, the thing is, the Dream and Reality sequences are alternates of each other.
by Astrolinium » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:51 pm
by Herrebrugh » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:52 pm
by Arumdaum » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:52 pm
by Deus in Machina » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:52 pm
by The free thinking few » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:54 pm
by Nationstatelandsville » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:54 pm
Deus in Machina wrote:Astrolinium wrote:
I'm sorry that you're upset that TDKR's Batman kicked the campy, cheesy one in the balls until it died, but you're going to have to move on.
Campy and cheesy ain't got nothing to do with it. Batman is a bastion of justice with an unflinching moral core, not a remorseless sociopath as Frank Miller insists on making him.
by Astrolinium » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:54 pm
Deus in Machina wrote:Astrolinium wrote:
I'm sorry that you're upset that TDKR's Batman kicked the campy, cheesy one in the balls until it died, but you're going to have to move on.
Campy and cheesy ain't got nothing to do with it. Batman is a bastion of justice with an unflinching moral core, not a remorseless sociopath as Frank Miller insists on making him.
by Herrebrugh » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:55 pm
by Grenartia » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:55 pm
Deus in Machina wrote:Grenartia wrote:
What do you think of my Alt-universe idea?
A bit too Silent Hill. I prefer what Vlad suggested earlier: a melding of realities as the characters' graps on reality becomes more unstable. A simple switching back-and-forth would enforce an order on the universe. This is about the breakdown of order.
by The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:56 pm
Deus in Machina wrote:Now THAT is a good idea. It follwos the same path as the unravelling of the mysteries surrounding the main character. The more we learn about her, the more we are drawn into her mind and the illusions of normalcy crumble.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Nationstatelandsville » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:57 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Deus in Machina wrote:Now THAT is a good idea. It follwos the same path as the unravelling of the mysteries surrounding the main character. The more we learn about her, the more we are drawn into her mind and the illusions of normalcy crumble.
As we learn more about the character, the crumbling causes us to know less. What we previously believed begins to be called into question as everything unravels. Reality and the imaginary begin to bleed together, until it becomes impossible to differentiate what is real and what is not. Mysteries solved lead to mysterious unsolved. Truth become lies. Etcetera.
by Shinjitai » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:00 pm
by The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:01 pm
Astrolinium wrote:He's a guy who dresses up as a bat and fights crime, regularly outwitting the likes of The Joker, Bane, and Harvey Dent, often through his mental faculties just as much as his physical ones.
I'd be worried if he wasn't a sociopath or something.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Astrolinium » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:01 pm
Nationstatelandsville wrote:The Nuclear Fist wrote:As we learn more about the character, the crumbling causes us to know less. What we previously believed begins to be called into question as everything unravels. Reality and the imaginary begin to bleed together, until it becomes impossible to differentiate what is real and what is not. Mysteries solved lead to mysterious unsolved. Truth become lies. Etcetera.
And it all has to end with the most random ending ever. Like Zeno turning out to be an undercover cop or something.
by Deus in Machina » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:05 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Deus in Machina wrote:Yes, I am a woman. That's just the way the fucking genetic crapshoot rolled and I have to live with it. Doesn't mean you have to point it out all the time.
Oh, calm down. You know I play the misogyny card as a joke. I respect you just as I respect others blah blah blah.
Sin City the movie was decent, but Robert Rodriguez was holding his hand the entire time. You wanna see what it looks like when Frank Miller tries to direct a movie on his own, watch The Spirit.
The movie was alright, but I genuinely enjoy the novels.As for his body of work in comic books, I just don't think there's anything of value. Dark Knight Returns was a total destruction of the character of Batman and its sequel was immeasurably worse, 300 was nothing but macho fascist posturing with giggle-worth homoerotic undertones,
Agreed. But then again, I don't really like Batman that much.Sin City was genetic noir pulp devoid of any artistry. It doesn't help that the artists he works with are universally terrible and that he's utterly incapable of creatign a female character who isn't a prostitute.
Sin City was amazing, and was (somewhat humourously), the reason I even found NS. As it turns out, certian sites I visit to read Sin City have links that lead me here.
Besides, it isn't meant to be taken completely seriously. It is as much a farce as it is graphic. Miller manages to subtlely satirize the noir genre whilst at the same time making you question is motives. It's a damn fine read, but I suppose we all have different tastes.
by The free thinking few » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:05 pm
Astrolinium wrote:Nationstatelandsville wrote:
And it all has to end with the most random ending ever. Like Zeno turning out to be an undercover cop or something.
How about Minoriteeburg, Nana, Vlad, and Gren show up at her house with beer and sing "It's a Small World After All" over the credits?
You said random.
by Grenartia » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:06 pm
Astrolinium wrote:Nationstatelandsville wrote:
And it all has to end with the most random ending ever. Like Zeno turning out to be an undercover cop or something.
How about Minoriteeburg, Nana, Vlad, and Gren show up at her house with beer and sing "It's a Small World After All" over the credits?
You said random.
by The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:08 pm
Deus in Machina wrote:The joke misogyny doesn't bother me. I just don't like to be defined by my sex. I'm okay with whatever pronouns you want to use, it's not a big deal, but I don't like being repeatedly reminded that the way I see myself will never match up to the way I am.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Grenartia » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:09 pm
Deus in Machina wrote:The Nuclear Fist wrote:Oh, calm down. You know I play the misogyny card as a joke. I respect you just as I respect others blah blah blah.
The joke misogyny doesn't bother me. I just don't like to be defined by my sex. I'm okay with whatever pronouns you want to use, it's not a big deal, but I don't like being repeatedly reminded that the way I see myself will never match up to the way I am.
by The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:10 pm
Astrolinium wrote:How about Minoriteeburg, Nana, Vlad, and Gren show up at her house with beer and sing "It's a Small World After All" over the credits?
You said random.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by The free thinking few » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:11 pm
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