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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:22 pm

Offenheim wrote:John Cornyn is a Republican from Texas. The socialists have invaded the Republican Party. Viva la revolution.


The Republicans have always been secret communist agents. Just recently they've started their plot to discredit conservatism and then establish Soviet Yankistan.
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:22 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:By socialist, I believe he means more regulations (i.e. anti-buisness). Meaning "Bye-bye YouTube"/massive online business.

Sounds kinda socialist. :unsure:


Socialism is not anti-business.

((PS. You didn't spell business correctly.))

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Postby Alexlantis » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:23 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Capisaria wrote:what the fuck does this have to do with socialism? And while I am a socialist, i am against this bill.

Same here.

Same.
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Postby Seperates » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:23 pm

Someone needs to learn what socialism is...

Though I do apose this bill because I really like gameplays and the like on the Youtubez.
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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:23 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:By socialist, I believe he means more regulations (i.e. anti-buisness). Meaning "Bye-bye YouTube"/massive online business.

Sounds kinda socialist. :unsure:


Socialism is not anti-business.

((PS. You didn't spell business correctly.))


Yes, finally someone has actually said socialism isnt anti-business...
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Postby Volnotova » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:24 pm

Is this thread some kind of Trololo attempt?
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Postby Ovisterra » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:24 pm

They have zero proof that each video was uploaded by an American. And personally I am not American so if they were to remove anything I put up.... :mad:

On another note, what the hell has this to do with socialism?
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Postby The Ben Boys » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:24 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:By socialist, I believe he means more regulations (i.e. anti-buisness). Meaning "Bye-bye YouTube"/massive online business.

Sounds kinda socialist. :unsure:


Socialism is not anti-business.

((PS. You didn't spell business correctly.))


Sorry, AMERICAN Socialism. There is a fine line between the two.


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Postby Alexlantis » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:25 pm

The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:Dont you just love how conservatives do NOT know what socialism even is?

We need a better education system. No doubt about that.
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Postby Oterro » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:25 pm

Brotip:

Socialism =/= fuck you big business

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Oterro wrote:Halo and CoD suck dick, you don't know what socialism is.
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:25 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Socialism is not anti-business.

((PS. You didn't spell business correctly.))


Sorry, AMERICAN Socialism. There is a fine line between the two.


There is no such thing as "American Socialism"...that's just people being idiots.

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Postby Oterro » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:26 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Socialism is not anti-business.

((PS. You didn't spell business correctly.))


Sorry, AMERICAN Socialism. There is a fine line between the two.


lol no

sorry you don't get to redefine words by sticking an adjective infront of them

republicanism is AMERICAN monarchism

capitalism is AMERICAN communism

etc.
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Postby Soviet Worlds » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:26 pm

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Postby The Ben Boys » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:26 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:
Sorry, AMERICAN Socialism. There is a fine line between the two.


There is no such thing as "American Socialism"...that's just people being idiots.

Exactly. It's a morphed way of socialism. It's trying to adapt a small country philosophy on a much larger scale.


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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:26 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:
Sorry, AMERICAN Socialism. There is a fine line between the two.


There is no such thing as "American Socialism"...that's just people being idiots.


Eugene V. Debs is the only American Socialist I know...and Francis Bellemy.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:27 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Socialism is not anti-business.

((PS. You didn't spell business correctly.))


Sorry, AMERICAN Socialism. There is a fine line between the two.


Lolol. American Socialism, speaking of oxymorons. In America 'socialism' only exists for big business.
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:27 pm

Alexlantis wrote:
The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:Dont you just love how conservatives do NOT know what socialism even is?

We need a better education system. No doubt about that.


I'm all for teaching politics in schools...if people knew about politics maybe, just maybe, they'd elect better leaders.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:28 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:
Sorry, AMERICAN Socialism. There is a fine line between the two.


Lolol. American Socialism, speaking of oxymorons. In America 'socialism' only exists for big business.

??? Please Explain.


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Postby Seperates » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:29 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Alexlantis wrote:We need a better education system. No doubt about that.


I'm all for teaching politics in schools...if people knew about politics maybe, just maybe, they'd elect better leader.

You mean we'd go for third parties?
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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:29 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Lolol. American Socialism, speaking of oxymorons. In America 'socialism' only exists for big business.

??? Please Explain.


Hes talking about corporate welfare...
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:30 pm

Seperates wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
I'm all for teaching politics in schools...if people knew about politics maybe, just maybe, they'd elect better leader.

You mean we'd go for third parties?


No...we'd go for a socialist party...

(I was wearing bias goggles to write the non bracketed writing in this reply.)

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Postby The Ben Boys » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:31 pm

The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:??? Please Explain.


Hes talking about corporate welfare...

Wouldn't that be corporatism?


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Postby Oterro » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:31 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Lolol. American Socialism, speaking of oxymorons. In America 'socialism' only exists for big business.

??? Please Explain.


Your society is so determined that socialism is the manifestation of anti American sentiment and the greatest threat to their way of life that anyone proclaiming to be socialist is mocked and ridiculed. That you actually have a socialist party amazes me.
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:32 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:
The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:
Hes talking about corporate welfare...

Wouldn't that be corporatism?


Nope.

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Postby Quaon » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:32 pm

Whoring out to big telecom corporations is socialist? Eugene Debs must be rolling in his grave.

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