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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:08 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Its already there.


What, proper diplomatic conduct? And how do you define that if not by seeing what diplomats are doing? Proper diplomatic conduct is that I can throw you out a window and not get arrested because of some vague abstract called diplomatic immunity. Proper diplomatic conduct is petty tit-for-tat and accusations of communism. Proper diplomatic conduct is puerile snickering over shots of whiskey while making snide remarks about Aram Koopman, or the Kennyites, or the Eternal Kawaii, or what have you! What the hell kind of thing is proper diplomatic conduct to teach children?

You don't know what proper means.

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Postby Cerberion » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:22 pm

I'm hoping defenestration is part of proper diplomatic behavior.

Though I think issuing rubber desks may reduce headaches for the little tykes. I've seen some displays of head banging that would make a thrash metal concert look relaxed.

I'd probably vote for this. I needed some kind of new way to punish Cerberion's troubled youth.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:54 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not opposed to the concept in principle but I am not sure if a resolution on the topic is really required, even if it doesn't fail the "secondary WA" rule.

I don't think this would fail the 'secondary WA' rule. It isn't a creation of a new world government, its a simulation.

I'd say a resolution is necessary, the WA should be the one creating a Model WA.

Hmm, it's a bit borderline in my opinion, but it doesn't appear to say it must be role-played at the forums. Regardless, it should be for member countries to decide whether to take part in a model WA.

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Postby Aetrina » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:56 pm

While we applaud the correct spelling and general "nice" tone of this. The Kingdom of Aetrina would vote against this in the unlikely event it came to a vote. The WA is barely tolerated in our Nation as it is and to perpetuate it with the "next generation" is absurd.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:01 pm

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Christian Democrats wrote: :eyebrow: What is this "adult fun" of which you speak? Members of our delegation spend most of their free time praying. Members of our delegation have no vices except drinking exorbitant amounts of fine wine.


Alright, but whatever you do, don't turn around. The door is open and there's a wild orgy in the office across the hall.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:08 pm

HEY! YOU FOLK WANT TO KEEP THE NOISE DOWN? WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME WORK DONE AROUND HERE!

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Postby Ardchoille » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:44 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:<snip>


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Postby Mahaj » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:48 pm

[sigh] things to add?
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Postby Snefaldia » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:11 pm

The States-Federation certainly does not, as this is not an area where we feel it is the World Assembly's business to be involved in didactic enterprises like this, nor do we feel that any kind of internationally-mandated organization should have any sort of mandate in our educational systems or those of other member-states.

Our delegation would also suggest that the ambassador from Mahaj kindly unclench his sphincter and crack a smile for once; not everything is full of gravitas and the solemnity of international diplomacy. It may be a good lesson to take: if you want people to take you seriously, sometimes you must be slightly unserious.

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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:56 pm

Ambassador Kha posted a notice on the bulletin board about this again, bringing it back up for attention.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Tweegee » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:38 pm

WAPAC

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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:40 pm

Tweegee wrote:WAPAC

what?
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
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<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:44 pm

Mahaj wrote:
A MODEL WORLD ASSEMBLY
Category: Education and Creativity I Focus: Education I Proposed by: Mahaj


The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING the goal of this body, the General Assembly, is to improve the world,

BELIEVING the best way this can be done is for delegations to be educated, both now and in the future,

Alright.

Mahaj wrote:CHOOSING, in this resolution, to focus on future potential delegations, namely children,

Wait a minute...

Mahaj wrote:BELIEVING that people, including children, should be educated about the World Assembly, and the best way to do this is through simulations of the World Assembly,

Now hang on a second...

Mahaj wrote:REQUIRES member nations to educate people about the role and doings of the World Assembly,

I can do this without the intervention of the WA, and I imagine that most WA nations would agree.

Mahaj wrote:CREATES the organization to be known as the Model World Assembly, or MWA for short,

IDENTIFIES MWA as a simulation of WA meetings and discussions,

REQUIRES that nations implement national MWA conferences, which are gatherings where people simulate a WA discussion with the goal of passing resolutions and 'improving the world', and also where they can learn and practice proper diplomatic behavior,

ENCOURAGES individual schools in nations to implement MWA clubs in their school,

Why? Why is the WA worthy of this attention? My nation has exactly four people who need to know anything about the WA: myself, my two Aides, and my Director Of NonCompliance.

Mahaj wrote:CREATES an international MWA conference to be held, here at the World Assembly Headquarters, where people from all over the world can engage in a simulation of WA discussion, using proper diplomatic behavior,

I challenge you to look me in the eyes and tell me that the children will be well served by visiting this building.

Mahaj wrote:HOPING that with the creation of MWA, more children will be interested in the WA and more educated about the WA.

As marvelous as this goal is, it feels slightly... creepy. Nations can choose what to teach their children about the WA, indeed the individual districts within Mallorea and Riva (with limited oversight) are capable of doing so.
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Postby Darenjo » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:54 pm

I am perfectly happy to not permanently scar my four-year old daughter, and to let her go on thinking that her pet rock is alive.

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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:25 pm

Darenjo wrote:I am perfectly happy to not permanently scar my four-year old daughter, and to let her go on thinking that her pet rock is alive.

- Dr. Park

Um, you can impose a minimum age. I'd imagine by the time they're thirteen they're ready.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Flibbleites » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:27 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Darenjo wrote:I am perfectly happy to not permanently scar my four-year old daughter, and to let her go on thinking that her pet rock is alive.

- Dr. Park

Um, you can impose a minimum age. I'd imagine by the time they're thirteen they're ready.

I dispute that claim, I was in my 30s when I first started here and I wasn't ready for the Festering Snakepit.

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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:29 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Um, you can impose a minimum age. I'd imagine by the time they're thirteen they're ready.

I dispute that claim, I was in my 30s when I first started here and I wasn't ready for the Festering Snakepit.

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With some exceptions. Whatever.

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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Quadrimmina » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:07 pm

An MWA is definitely a good idea, but it would be great if the resolution also urged nations to have their own mock assemblies. Getting people involved in their government is important at every level.
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Postby Zoingo » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:16 pm

Quadrimmina wrote:An MWA is definitely a good idea, but it would be great if the resolution also urged nations to have their own mock assemblies. Getting people involved in their government is important at every level.

^This.

The resolution doesn't seem to mask any "mini-tyrannies" that frequently fly out of World Assembly proposals, plus the proposal gives the kiddos a great look at how international politics is so garbled up. :P
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Postby Speculine » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:32 pm

A model of a simulation of a simulation? We need to go deeper...

Seriously though, I would vote against this if it came up for vote. I think the WA is doing a fine job as is.
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Postby Connopolis » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:37 pm

I support this, however, perhaps a clause should be added that will help foster peaceful diplomatic discussion among children in the mock WA as opposed to the blood-thirsty, gnome abusive ambassadors currently being employed?

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Postby Dizyntk » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:48 pm

We abuse the Gnomes? i thought we just had them around as snacks. Anyway I agree that it would be horribly irresponsible to expose children to the atrocities commited in this building on a daily basis. I am surprised that we are not in violation of our own war crimes acts.
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Postby Kelssek » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:49 pm

My 11-year old son said I should support this, as long as he gets to be Dr. Denis Leary. I am therefore quite concerned about this proposal.

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Snefaldia
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Postby Snefaldia » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:12 am

Kelssek wrote:My 11-year old son said I should support this, as long as he gets to be Dr. Denis Leary. I am therefore quite concerned about this proposal.

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Ahem, sir. It is pronounced Doctor Denis Leary.

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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:13 pm

Zoingo wrote:
Quadrimmina wrote:An MWA is definitely a good idea, but it would be great if the resolution also urged nations to have their own mock assemblies. Getting people involved in their government is important at every level.

^This.

The resolution doesn't seem to mask any "mini-tyrannies" that frequently fly out of World Assembly proposals, plus the proposal gives the kiddos a great look at how international politics is so garbled up. :P

Exactly.

So, ah, should I submit this?
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
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<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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