Legionica wrote:Maybe Aztecs did go to space. Think about that...
I would, but I can only process so much stupid in one day.
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by Ifreann » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:50 am
Legionica wrote:Maybe Aztecs did go to space. Think about that...
by Intangelon » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:55 am
Great Nepal wrote:Intangelon wrote:That doesn't mean they exist. That means it's kinda probable that they might exist. Difference.
Saying "they must be there, look at the odds" does not equal "they're here".
No, it actual means there is very high chance that they exist. There is no evidence that Russia will not go crazy and nuke the place you are in, does that mean you should go towards nearest nuclear bunker?
If there is 9 magnitude earthquake, there is no evidence that your house will collapse but why do you head for safe open place?
by Georgizm » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:00 am
So, do you?
If so, do you think they are friendly?
If so, do you think they are visiting earth?
Are their more than one species?
by Great Nepal » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:00 am
Intangelon wrote:Great Nepal wrote:No, it actual means there is very high chance that they exist. There is no evidence that Russia will not go crazy and nuke the place you are in, does that mean you should go towards nearest nuclear bunker?
If there is 9 magnitude earthquake, there is no evidence that your house will collapse but why do you head for safe open place?
Are you serious? Russia and earthquakes are documented, existing phenomena. Aliens are not.
by Intangelon » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:00 am
Aethrys wrote:Alright, it's pretty clear to me that you're too much of a condescending prick to think for a minute and comprehend what I'm trying to get through to you, so I'll politely run it through for you one more time.
I am not saying they found fossilized bacteria.
My whole point was that you appear to be saying that if they DID find fossilized bacteria on another planet, that would not be evidence of alien life, which is absurd.
I do not believe evidence of alien life has been found.
I doubt aliens visit our planet.
However, I believe that it is likely that there is some form of life elsewhere, key word being life, which is not synonymous with civilization. I am not a tinfoil hat wearing roswell believer who thinks the government is cutting up aliens under the pentagon.
Please unwedge that stick from your ass, won't you?
by Grave_n_idle » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:03 am
Ifreann wrote:I've never really understood why people assume that aliens would be more civilised or advanced than us. Misanthropy, presumably. I mean, why couldn't there be a planet out there with aliens in the equivalent of out Dark Ages? Who's to say the first civilisation we encounter won't be Aztecs IN SPACE?
by Intangelon » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:05 am
Avenio wrote:Intangelon wrote:Show me the science.
This is exactly what NASA's been working on for the last two decades, in fact; they're just being extremely conservative and are confirming every last detail before they make any sort of noise on the subject, whether positive or negative. First they sent missions to determine whether or not Mars had water in the past; that was confirmed. Then they sent missions to see whether Mars still has water on its surface today; that was also confirmed, along with the existence of several different Earth-like rocks (See the discoveries of the Spirit and Opportunity rovers). Now, they're sending the Mars Science Laboratory (AKA Curiosity) to look for either organic molecules in the surface soil layers or evidence of past organic molecules, and potentially look for signs of life itself via the chemical signatures it leaves. In the next five or ten years, ESA, in concert with NASA, is planning to send the ExoMars probe to drill 2m into the Martian soil to study its chemistry and look for water and the signs of life. Finally, NASA plans to, in the future, send a craft called the Mars Sample Return Mission to pick up samples of the Martian soil and bring it back to Earth as a final test to see if life exists in the soil there.
The evidence has been piling up, slowly but surely. It's too early to say yet, but in my mind the odds are good.
by Intangelon » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:08 am
Great Nepal wrote:Intangelon wrote:Are you serious? Russia and earthquakes are documented, existing phenomena. Aliens are not.
That quite neatly avoids the question.
Earthquake are documented - but buildings may not fall during that earthquake.
Russia is documented along with its nuclear stockpile but what is not documented is that it is not going to launch its nuclear weapons against your nation; targeted at your city.
by Jenrak » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:11 am
Aethrys wrote:Alright, it's pretty clear to me that you're too much of a condescending prick to think for a minute and comprehend what I'm trying to get through to you, so I'll politely run it through for you one more time.
I am not saying they found fossilized bacteria.
My whole point was that you appear to be saying that if they DID find fossilized bacteria on another planet, that would not be evidence of alien life, which is absurd.
I do not believe evidence of alien life has been found.
I doubt aliens visit our planet.
However, I believe that it is likely that there is some form of life elsewhere, key word being life, which is not synonymous with civilization. I am not a tinfoil hat wearing roswell believer who thinks the government is cutting up aliens under the pentagon.
Please unwedge that stick from your ass, won't you?
by San Whoopee » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:11 am
by Southern Patriots » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:14 am
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.
by Great Nepal » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:16 am
Intangelon wrote:Great Nepal wrote:That quite neatly avoids the question.
Earthquake are documented - but buildings may not fall during that earthquake.
Russia is documented along with its nuclear stockpile but what is not documented is that it is not going to launch its nuclear weapons against your nation; targeted at your city.
You're trying to pit the likelihood of both human twitchiness and tectonic shifts and the stability of one's house versus the probability (which is zero) of "alien life". Neat. I believe the next step is "black = white" -- please be careful crossing the street.
by Great Nepal » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:17 am
Southern Patriots wrote:However I am with Stephen Hawking when he says that it isn't a good idea to broadcast our presence to the universe right now. We could very quickly find ourselves the Natives and the aliens the Europeans in a resource raid or colonization situation. And without plucky characters such as those from World Invasion: Battle Los Angeles to save us.
by Ifreann » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:19 am
Legionica wrote:Well, I'm obliged to say that that was probably an insult!
by Southern Patriots » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:23 am
Great Nepal wrote:Southern Patriots wrote:However I am with Stephen Hawking when he says that it isn't a good idea to broadcast our presence to the universe right now. We could very quickly find ourselves the Natives and the aliens the Europeans in a resource raid or colonization situation. And without plucky characters such as those from World Invasion: Battle Los Angeles to save us.
Or, we could find that they are in fact very helpful species who give us some alien tech? And, what significant resorce does earth have to justify cost, time or effort of an invasion?
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.
by Grave_n_idle » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:28 am
Southern Patriots wrote:Great Nepal wrote:Or, we could find that they are in fact very helpful species who give us some alien tech? And, what significant resorce does earth have to justify cost, time or effort of an invasion?
Liquid water, or any of the other abundant minerals, etc, found on our planet. Or the simple fact that since our planet is life-bearing that it may (just may) be tolerable in some capacity for alien life.
by Al-Harakut al-Islami » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:31 am
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Can you imagine how awkward that would be?
"Mom, Dad... I'm an owl."
"Wha... what?!"
"I know, I know. I..."
"Can you stop being an owl?"
"Mom, it's not a choice."
"NO SON OF MINE CAN BE AN OWL!"
"Dad! It's not even physically possible! Christ, how can you be racist against something you didn't know existed until 5 seconds ago?!"
"Do you have an owlfriend?"
"Yes Mom. His name is Damien."
by Norstal » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:32 am
Grave_n_idle wrote:Southern Patriots wrote:Liquid water, or any of the other abundant minerals, etc, found on our planet. Or the simple fact that since our planet is life-bearing that it may (just may) be tolerable in some capacity for alien life.
It seems unlikely that a species advanced enough to make trips across the depths of space... can't find an easier way to find ANY resources we might have.
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by Norstal » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:33 am
Salandriagado wrote:It is a matter of simple mathematics to establish that aliens almost certainly do exist. It is a matter of even more simple mathematics to establish that they would almost certainly not be able to get to us, and even if they could, that there would be no benefit to them in doing so.
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by Grave_n_idle » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:34 am
by Southern Patriots » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:35 am
Grave_n_idle wrote:Southern Patriots wrote:Liquid water, or any of the other abundant minerals, etc, found on our planet. Or the simple fact that since our planet is life-bearing that it may (just may) be tolerable in some capacity for alien life.
It seems unlikely that a species advanced enough to make trips across the depths of space... can't find an easier way to find ANY resources we might have.
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.
by Sovereign Spirits » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:36 am
by Salandriagado » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:36 am
You're trying to pit the likelihood of both human twitchiness and tectonic shifts and the stability of one's house versus the probability (which is zero) of "alien life". Neat. I believe the next step is "black = white" -- please be careful crossing the street.
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