by Valrez » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:24 pm
by Aeronos » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:27 pm
by Nansurium » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:28 pm
by Trotskylvania » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:29 pm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga
by Nansurium » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:30 pm
by AlexJacobii » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:42 pm
Valrez wrote:With talks about taxes it make me bring up the question: "Is our tax code a good one?"
Personally I wish we could have a simple flat tax at around 8-14%
But what do you believe should be the future of our tax system?
by Farnhamia » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:44 pm
AlexJacobii wrote:Valrez wrote:With talks about taxes it make me bring up the question: "Is our tax code a good one?"
Personally I wish we could have a simple flat tax at around 8-14%
But what do you believe should be the future of our tax system?
A flat tax would favour the rich a bit, unless you are thinking of a sliding scale in which the percentage increases at certain ranges of income. The future of our system should be a sliding scale type tax, for those that are students or making under 10k then they pay 5%. Part-time (11-24k) work would be 7%. Full time (25-50k) would be 9%. Then there would be additional rates for those above 50k a year of course. Churches and non-profits would be exempt however preachers and such would be required to pay taxes.
by Terra Agora » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:46 pm
Trotskylvania wrote:Taxation is an irrelevant issue in a planned economy, so I'm ambivalent.
In the near term, abolish all sales taxes, and payroll taxes. Replace property taxes with a combination of a Georgist land-value tax and a mild, progressive (.5% to 1% at the very most) capital tax, and make up the bulk of tax receipts from progressive corporate and individual income taxes, with heavy tax incentives given to worker or otherwise publicly owned collectives.
by Nansurium » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:46 pm
by AlexJacobii » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:47 pm
Farnhamia wrote:AlexJacobii wrote:
A flat tax would favour the rich a bit, unless you are thinking of a sliding scale in which the percentage increases at certain ranges of income. The future of our system should be a sliding scale type tax, for those that are students or making under 10k then they pay 5%. Part-time (11-24k) work would be 7%. Full time (25-50k) would be 9%. Then there would be additional rates for those above 50k a year of course. Churches and non-profits would be exempt however preachers and such would be required to pay taxes.
You've just described the progressive income tax system we more or less have in the US now, just with different rates.
by Farnhamia » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:49 pm
by Sibirsky » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:53 pm
Farnhamia wrote:
The guy on the right is taller.
So what? Laws are complicated. The worth of a law or a set of laws is not measured by weight or height. If we removed a lot of the corporate and individual tax loopholes, we could increase revenue and simplify the code.
by Sibirsky » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:54 pm
Terra Agora wrote:Trotskylvania wrote:Taxation is an irrelevant issue in a planned economy, so I'm ambivalent.
In the near term, abolish all sales taxes, and payroll taxes. Replace property taxes with a combination of a Georgist land-value tax and a mild, progressive (.5% to 1% at the very most) capital tax, and make up the bulk of tax receipts from progressive corporate and individual income taxes, with heavy tax incentives given to worker or otherwise publicly owned collectives.
How does one determine the value of land?
by Wikkiwallana » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:55 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Sibirsky » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:55 pm
Aeronos wrote:Well, making the tax code simple enough that people can do their own taxes rather than having to pay people to do them for them would be a good start to any sort of reform...
by Sibirsky » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:56 pm
by Valrez » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:04 pm
by Siorafrica » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:55 pm
by Terra Agora » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:00 pm
Siorafrica wrote:It's not equal. Incomes are hugely different yet people have to pay the same.
by Terra Agora » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:03 pm
by Sibirsky » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:08 pm
Siorafrica wrote:It's not equal. Incomes are hugely different yet people have to pay the same.
by Call to power » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:21 pm
Nansurium wrote:Your economy would be a train wreck!
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