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Rustika
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Postby Rustika » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:24 am

Can I apply for membership?
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Colombie-Britannique
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Postby Colombie-Britannique » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:00 am

Rustika wrote:Can I apply for membership?

Sure you can, read the OP, give us an idea of what your nation will be like, and we'll see. ;)

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Postby Rustika » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:55 am

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My nation is a Fascist State which came to be after a bloodless coup led by the military. Even though my nation would be a fascist state it would still need to maintain and adhere to a constitution which was written by the military with the assistance of some of the politicians which supported the coup. Fascism within my nation is not thoroughly based on militarism. Fascism in my nation has refrained from the traditional means of keeping order within the nation and even though my nation is a police state my nation does not believe in acts of violence against the population to maintain order. My nation looks to better friendships with current fascist states (if there are any), but maintain some element of cordiality with democratic nations. Despite popular belief the fascist government in my nation is not a dictator ship, the next leader is elected by the people from a selection of candidates which are taken from the military, the leaders of my nation must have been a Brigadier or higher ranking in the military to be allowed to run for the elections. As you may have guessed by now the government and military of my nation are the same thing, the leader of the fascist state and his cabinet all need to be members of the military, but any government position lower than minister does not require military service, this makes my nation a military fascist state, but a democratic one at that. The economy of my nation is based on a Pro Environmental economic model which functions on the accumulation and trade of all excess wealth, and is a hard line supporter of preserving nature. Due to that my nation is an expansionist government which constantly tries to expand it's borders. In terms of society my nation is quite liberal, education and other social amenities are well funded and the population lives in my nation without having perpetual fear hanging around them.
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Maxen von Bismarck
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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:04 am

No.
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Chemaki
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Postby Chemaki » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:24 am

Maxen von Bismarck wrote:No.


This.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:26 am

Rustika wrote:Description:

My nation is a Fascist State which came to be after a bloodless coup led by the military. Even though my nation would be a fascist state it would still need to maintain and adhere to a constitution which was written by the military with the assistance of some of the politicians which supported the coup. Fascism within my nation is not thoroughly based on militarism. Fascism in my nation has refrained from the traditional means of keeping order within the nation and even though my nation is a police state my nation does not believe in acts of violence against the population to maintain order. My nation looks to better friendships with current fascist states (if there are any), but maintain some element of cordiality with democratic nations. Despite popular belief the fascist government in my nation is not a dictator ship, the next leader is elected by the people from a selection of candidates which are taken from the military, the leaders of my nation must have been a Brigadier or higher ranking in the military to be allowed to run for the elections. As you may have guessed by now the government and military of my nation are the same thing, the leader of the fascist state and his cabinet all need to be members of the military, but any government position lower than minister does not require military service, this makes my nation a military fascist state, but a democratic one at that. The economy of my nation is based on a Pro Environmental economic model which functions on the accumulation and trade of all excess wealth, and is a hard line supporter of preserving nature. Due to that my nation is an expansionist government which constantly tries to expand it's borders. In terms of society my nation is quite liberal, education and other social amenities are well funded and the population lives in my nation without having perpetual fear hanging around them.


Uh

At this time I would say no. Though, if you want, you can go back through the last several pages of the application thread and see the applications which were accepted and try to give us something like that.
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Postby The Crooked Beat » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:57 pm

In line with what I've proposed on the invision forums, I'd like to very tentatively place the following claim, not necessarily as a solid statement of intent but as something that I'm very much leaning toward, to be confirmed a bit later:

-Drop Malabar, which would, at last reckoning, leave all of India and Pakistan free for the claiming.

-In its place, I would claim the following: Morocco not including Western Sahara (~31,000,000?); Algerian provinces of Naama/nr.45 (192,981), M'Sila/nr.08 (990,581), Tindouf/nr.37* (49,149); Madeira Archipelago incl. Madeira, Porto Santo, and the Desertas (247,399); Sri Lanka minus Tamil Eelam incl. North Central, Central, Sabaragamuwa, Southern, Uva (15,627,015); Prince Edward Islands (population nil); Mayotte (~194,000); Bahrain (1,234,596).

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Chemaki
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Postby Chemaki » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:11 am

Unfortunately, there isn't really any space in Algeria. It's already claimed.


Also, a nation stretching from Morocco to Sri Lanka? Unheard of, and it seems pretty unfeasible :/
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Postby Jatriqya and Hoya » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:24 am

Also, Mayotte and the Comoros are part of the oft-forgotten Byzantine Spice Islands, a remnant of the Walmingtonian-Byzantine conflict in the Indian Ocean and the Byzantine African Territories in present-day Nilosahara.

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Iskarajan
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Postby Iskarajan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:50 am

Hello all! I'm trying to get back into RP after a long time in which I've not written much, and it's been tricky to find open threads that suit. So I thought I'd submit an application to AMW, you lot seeming congenial and all. Nothing ventured, nothing gained! My other nation is a Porsche. Or possibly a Bentley, given how long it's been about. In any case it's very grand and very slow and so not so conducive to RP these days, so while it stays in the classic car garage I created Iskarajan as a faster-paced ride. The following is a brief outline of the modern Iskarajan I have floating about in my head, properly corseted to fit into AMW - mainly involving the imposition of a more centralized government and the alteration of the original twenty-five-thousand year history. Here we go!

The Iskarans claim to be the original inhabitants of Iskarajan from the beginning of time, and certainly a recognizably Iskaran population has inhabited the area since at least the beginning of recorded history. While ethnically more or less homogenous, the preclassic Iskarans were highly divided politically, a feature which remains in Iskaran society to this day. Individual townlets and hill-forts dotted the landscape, each home to a collection of closely related families and ruled by a loosely hereditary chieftain. The towns were linked in constantly-shifting networks of loose alliances, warfare being endemic to preclassic Iskarajan.

Preclassic civilization was based primarily on fishing, hunting, gathering, and small-scale garden agriculture; riverine and oceanic trade throughout the littoral region was highly important for the exchange of prestige goods and what essential items (such as tin for the manufacture of bronze) could not be produced locally.

The Early Classic period has traditionally been marked as beginning with the adoption of writing (the so-called "Merchant's Script"), but the true point of change from Preclassic to Early Classic Iskaran society could equally well be the development of keeled sailing vessels. Too large to be effectively rowed, the nimble coastal rukhonné ships demonstrate the increasing importance of long-distance and deep-water trade at this period, which is also marked by the introduction of foreign crops and the beginning of open-field agriculture.

The solidifying of alliances at this time (or at least the avoidance of outright war through the means of reciprocal tribute and hostage exchanges) led to an increase in population, and further emphasized the necessity of trade; the accumulation of treasure from abroad for use in tribute exchange replaced prowess in battle as a mark of status. Cynical historians may note that Iskaran traders were equally likely to obtain that treasure by raiding; so the flowering of shipping in Early Classic Iskarajan might well be seen as an externalization of the same bellicose urges.

With their husbands and sons away accumulating wealth abroad, control of the towns at home was delivered into the hands of their wives and mothers. Iskaran society had always been matrilineal and matrilocal, but the Classic period is marked by it becoming outright matriarchal. Clans were ruled by the elder women of the household, men joined their wife's clan, and the exchange of husbands in marriage alliances suppressed the possibility of local warfare.

This shift in political control required, or possibly instigated, a shift in religious policy to justify it; the indigenous yukajra faith went from persecution to widescale adoption at this time, and the multitudinous gods of Iskaran polytheism were degraded to local spirits or replaced by saints and ancestors.

Sustained contact with European powers in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries AD led to the demise of Classic period Iskaran society; the ready availability of firearms made warfare suddenly easier, and the threat of foreign colonization made its avoidance far more important. To this end Postclassic society saw the rise of the Justicariate - an independent order of lawyer-monks, dedicated to the negotiation of ceasefires and the upholding of peace. Over time, the Justicariate expanded to become something of a police force, at times functioning as a de facto federal government. With the Justicars to arrange alliances as needed, probing expeditions by European colonizers were readily repulsed, in the process reaffirming the Early Classic Iskaran reputation for unbridled and downright gleeful violence.

The eighteenth century also saw the introduction of papermaking and printing technology from Europe, and as a result the widescale introduction of literacy. By the early 1900s Iskarajan was in a sort of chilly détente with the European powers, its highly bellicose society commonly regarded as either not worth the effort or impossible to conquer. "You cannot invade mainland Iskarajan," one European general is said to have advised his monarch, "There would be a jezail behind every blade of grass."

Europe turned instead to trade with the Iskaran clans; if warfare was suppressed, the clans could still compete in the economic theatre, and were more than willing to exchange Iskaran goods for European. Despite the Justicariate's protestations that it had no jurisdiction over the idolatrous foreign Europeans, the clans were eventually badgered into forbidding piracy, at least against the major European powers; piracy between clans could not be stopped, and by the time a clan privateer returned to its home port any undertakings at sea would be faits accompli.

(I'd put more in here about the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, but it requires a more detailed knowledge of AMW history I don't have. Suffice to say that the European powers would be playing the clans off against each other, the clans would be playing the European powers, and both would be thinking they were the ones pulling the strings. The following section on the Great War is also necessarily imprecise).

Iskarajan entered the Great War more or less neutral, slow to be drawn into the conflict. When it did, it was never as a single entity; some clans joined the Aventine Alliance, some joined the Pact of Oak, while others retreated into prickly isolationism. While the great powers supplied arms and equipment to one clan or another, the feet on the ground were Iskaran - if foreign powers had landed in Iskarajan in any great numbers, it would probably have led to the unification of Iskarajan against one side or the other.

When peace broke out in Europe, warfare continued in Iskarajan, as the clans were now in full tilt against each other. The slowing of hostilities owed more to the drying-up of technical assistance and supplies from Europe than to any genuine desire for peace; until, of course, a generation of Iskarans were largely dead, the capacity for warfare among the clans was exhausted, and the Justicariate set about picking up the pieces.

The mid to late 1950s saw the consolidation of a great deal of power in the Justicariate. Despite being finally sick of bloodshed, the clans simply lacked the power to prevent it. Under the tough-love chivvying of the Justicariate, Iskarajan adopted a uniform framework of laws, a postal union, and other trappings of a modern nation-state. Foreign advisors were brought in to organize modern infrastructure and to industrialize the nation; under the clans there had been no authority responsible for roads, for example, and as a result the land transport of the nation was very poorly built and maintained.

Growing foreign influence, along with the coming of age of the first generation of Iskarans post-war, saw the wane of the Justicariate's power. Openly defying the Justicariate government, the clans reasserted their authority, and the Justicariate was largely powerless to stop them; military power had always resided in the hands of the clans, and two decades of government was not enough to abridge that. The early 1970s saw the establishment of the Clan Council, a more-or-less democratic decision-making body comprised of the heads of all the clans and moderated, as best one could, by a Secretarial position rotated between the clan heads every two years.

Egalitarian in theory, the Clan Council was soon led in practice not by the Secretariat but by a single person, Kizva dan Azjali, the head of the newly powerful Azjali clan. While holding no more official power than her peers - and remarkably young for an Iskaran clan commander - Kizva was able to bully the other clan leaders, through force of personality, into following her lead.

In the present day, Kizva dan Azjali - now referred to, more or less affectionately, as "Uma (Grandmother) Kizva" is the de facto leader of a more or less unified nation-state; one steadily creeping forward in trade and industrial capacity.


The yukajra has been the majority religion in Iskarajan for over a thousand years, to the point where it is now a large part of Iskaran national identity. The fundamental tenet of the yukajra is that gods do not exist, or at the least are unworthy of worship; the practitioner of yukajra is supposedly superior to any deity. The prior gods of Iskaran polytheism were demoted to local spirits and demons, largely replaced by saints and ancestors - the yukajra, although it originally denied the existence of an afterlife, soon adopted the Iskaran practice of ancestor worship. The saints might be merely exemplars of proper behavior, incapable of direct interaction with the world, but they developed shrines and local priesthoods (shrinekeepers) all the same. Clans adopted favored ancestors as their familial protectors, and the hagiography of the saints was a major sector of Classic Iskaran literature.

The second tenet of the yukajra was the denial of good and evil; instead, any given thing might be spiritually sullying, to be atoned for by ritual cleansing as decreed by a wise person (the Justicariate grew out of this original corps of monks responsible for religious purity). Cleanliness was highly important both spiritually and physically; gravediggers, tanners, witch-doctors, and heathens were declared intrinsically unclean, denied any clan affiliation, and forced to live in ghettos outside the fortress compounds of the clans. This led to the proliferation of a corps of monks responsible for funerary rites, regarded as particularly holy despite being untouchable.

Since excess hair was regarded as unclean, monks go shaven-headed, the rank and file of Iskaran society wear their hair short, and the unclean caste are forbidden to shave or to cut their hair.

Slaves were considered unclean from the earliest Preclassic era; but shortly into the Classic era the increased emphasis on clan cohesion, and the general adoption of the yukajra, resulted in the institution of slavery being considered unclean. Slaves were still intrinsically unclean, but now so were slavers, and the proper Iskaran would have nothing to do with the institution at all.

The general insistence on cleanliness in the yukajra led to a rudimentary understanding of the germ theory of disease in the mid-fifteenth century AD, and to a generally lower infant mortality rate; this in turn reduced the amount of time a woman would have to spend pregnant, and reinforced her social status. The yukajra, while quite firm on the moral and mental superiority of believers over heathens, offered considerable scope for egalitarianism.


The stereotypical Iskaran woman is practical, well-organized, and decisive; her male counterpart is hot-headed, whimsical, and argumentative among his peers, but dutiful towards his elders. The woman lives in her mother's clan, while the man lives in his wife's. There is no nuclear family as such; the children of a clan are raised and educated as a unit, often forming strong bonds as a generational cohort.

Homosexuality is seen not as a sin or even particularly unclean but as something of a youthful frivolity; either gender may indulge prior to marriage with their cousins within the clan (relationships outside the clan outside of marriage are frowned upon as disruptive to potential marriage alliances) - and indeed homosexuality is sometimes encouraged among teens as a method of preventing premarital pregnancy - but after marriage both genders are expected to practice heterosexuality, not necessarily out of respect for each other but because they are supposed to be producing the next generation of the clan. Homosexuality among married people is more acceptable among women than among men, as is unfaithfulness. The husband, coming as he does from another clan, is supposed to be the representative of that clan and be on his best behavior.

The Iskaran clan is fundamentally an extended family, led by the oldest female. The clan compound is a solidly walled fortress, containing everything necessary to the clan, including its workshops and factories. In practice many factories are built outside the clan walls, and shipyards have always occupied their own locations due to necessity. The clan may own several compounds throughout Iskarajan or beyond, and close alliances with other clans may result in the incorporation of other clans under the umbrella of the larger clan; tensions between sections of a clan in different locations may lead to a clan splitting.

A typical Iskaran city is composed of many clan compounds arranged along a river or around a harbor, buffered from each other by the less impressive buildings of the unclean ghettos, as well as coffeehouses, public baths, and foreign businesses. The buildings are constructed of dressed stone in interlocking blocks, with small windows in the lower floors. Above the first floor the structure is of wood, and roofs are steeply pitched with many gables; European observers have compared them to Scandinavian stave churches (or Japanese castles, though there's no Japan in AMW).


The Clan Council is Iskarajan's nominal governing body, although it rules more through suggestion than force. Given the lack of any more organized or recognized alternative it is seen as representing Iskarajan on the world stage, although it is still possible to find a clan willing to go against the grain of whatever the Clan Council may suggest.

The Council is composed of the heads of each clan or their representatives, with the duty of chairing the Council given to a Secretary for a period of two years, at which point the Secretarial seat rotates to the next clan. In this manner the Council supposedly avoids becoming the vehicle of one clan or another. In practice it is the mouthpiece of Uma Kizva, and the Council seldom goes against her wishes.

The Secretariat's civil service is responsible for the proper operation of the roads, mail, and so forth, and is funded by Council membership fees. It continues its work regardless of who actually holds the Secretarial position at any given time.


The Iskaran economy is based primarily upon international trade, manufacturing, tourism, and resource extraction. Iskaran products have a reputation as no-frills, rugged, well-made machines which, while they may not match the performance of foreign goods, will keep running forever; Iskaran industry largely doesn't believe in any such thing as planned obsolescence. Typical Iskaran products are whiteware (fridges, ovens, dishwashers, washing machines et cetera), kitchenware (pots, pans, toasters, blenders capable of liquifying a human head), heavy machinery (drills, cranes, saws) and automobiles (inevitably slow, gas-guzzling, but impossible to kill).

The counterpoint to this is that Iskaran high technology tends to be finicky, prone to breaking down, and yet still generally underpowered; Iskaran manufacturers are not a contender in avionics, electronics, or anything that can't be solid enough to serve as an anchor in a storm.


As for location … the non-AMW modern Iskarajan is a rugged, cold, wet, heavily indented croissant-shaped protuberance of land roughly half the size of Australia. Obviously none of that is directly applicable to AMW, but things I'd like, in order of importance, are; 1) Coastline - this is important! 2) Wet, 3) Cold, and 4) Rugged. If Scotland were inhabited by a bunch of squabbling atheist viking Medicis you might have a fair approximation of Iskarajan. I'm not sure what exactly is still available on your world map right now, so feel free to make suggestions.

As the History suggests, I'm not really looking for anywhere in Europe or near to Europe - the Iskaran relationship with Europe is more colonial than not, vaguely similar to that of Japan in that it's never actually colonized, and balances Europhile traits with fierce nationalism - but then I'd rather not be at the far end of the world either. Having read all forty pages of this thread, I've no desire to end up in the situation of the poor Tahinyuwhatsit Empire and be stuck neighbourless at the back of beyond!

Population-wise I'm thinking around 60-70 million; could be larger or smaller as required, of course.

If the economy looks too powerful, I'd be happy to tone down the manufacturing side of things, but the mainstay of the Iskaran economy should still be trade - shipping is (as you can see if you've read this far) something of a traditional industry!

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Postby The Crooked Beat » Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:49 pm

My, it certainly looks like a very interesting claim, Iskarajan, well thought-out and colorful! You have my approval accordingly.

As for location, it may be a touch difficult to fit your desired population into your desired geography. After all, it seems like cold and rugged places are generally rather short on people! The Highlands being a good example. I think, however, that the northeastern USA may be worth a look. It's got quite a coast to it, and can be fairly rugged in parts. Plus it's got enough people in it for the 60-70 million figure to be feasible, and is close enough to everything so as not to perish of isolation. Otherwise I'd maybe recommend Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego, or South Africa minus Walmington's possessions on the Cape.

There's also Norway, most of Sweden, Finland, and Northwestern Russia if you're feeling like something closer to Europe.


Well, you've gone and gobbled-up an awful lot, Chemaki! I knew that Moorington had Algeria's most populous regions, but I was under the impression that its more deserted areas were still free. It all used to be mine, dammit! :( In any case I'll drop that part of my claim.

As for implausibility, well, sir, I don't find that argument to hold too much water. After all, how implausible was a nation stretching from Canada to New Zealand? Or from Brittany to Tonkin? How implausible are a dozen other accepted truths of AMW, when you come to think about it? After all, how implausible is the industrialized west without colonialism or Chinese silver? So I challenge you to come up with a better reason.

I'm also half tempted to take some or all of Portugal, though in an ideal world somebody would come by and remove that temptation!

As for Mayotte, well, fair enough, and duly dropped in favor of, hmm, Reunion?

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Postby -Lorraine- » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:45 pm

Well I think Avarga could still be in west africa, but would probably span more of the coast and down south.

As for Iskarajan, it is a very promising claim and I actually think that it would be interesting RPing with your unique political structure. As for places to be, the only really wet, rugged, and cold places would be the Northeast US, northwest US, scandinavia (though thats Europe and you dont really seem to want that) and there are probably some other places, but nothing quite the size of those.

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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:20 pm

I now feel terribly guilty about taking the juiciest pits of Algeria! I'm sorry LRR, for what it's worth.

Though Lorraine, I feel, is onto something. With Abream busy with her stuff over at MUD, the whole coast (iirc) of West Africa is clear all the way down to Nigeria. Though I wouldn't mind you taking a bit of Portugal, or the whole thing, with your bit of Africa. As it stands now, I believe it's safe to say that it will go forever unclaimed unless tied to a larger claim. I can't think of a better person at the moment whose actively looking for a spot, and we're certainly never going to give a Portugal+ claim to anyone new...
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Postby Iskarajan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:20 pm

I'm more than happy to compromise on some of those; certainly it would be surprising if everything lined up just so. The main requirements are that it be coastal and wet; cold and rugged would be nice but aren't absolutely necessary. The Pacific Northwest would be ideal in terms of geography but I think someone else already has Canada? On a completely blank map I'd probably take Oregon, Washington, British Colombia, Yukon and Alaska - possibly just to the Rockies - but yeah, Canada is unavailable I think. Elsewise it could easily go in Central America (Equador is wet), Brazil, Indonesia, South-East Asia, or so forth. Coastal South Africa is a possibility, albeit possibly drier than I'd prefer.

New England would also be a possibility, although I was under the impression it'd been claimed by someone else.

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Postby Jatriqya and Hoya » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:26 pm

Iskarajan wrote:I'm more than happy to compromise on some of those; certainly it would be surprising if everything lined up just so. The main requirements are that it be coastal and wet; cold and rugged would be nice but aren't absolutely necessary. The Pacific Northwest would be ideal in terms of geography but I think someone else already has Canada? On a completely blank map I'd probably take Oregon, Washington, British Colombia, Yukon and Alaska - possibly just to the Rockies - but yeah, Canada is unavailable I think. Elsewise it could easily go in Central America (Equador is wet), Brazil, Indonesia, South-East Asia, or so forth. Coastal South Africa is a possibility, albeit possibly drier than I'd prefer.

New England would also be a possibility, although I was under the impression it'd been claimed by someone else.


As far as I know, Oregon, Washington, BC, Yukon and Alaska are all free...

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Postby Iskarajan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:32 pm

Jatriqya and Hoya wrote:
Iskarajan wrote:I'm more than happy to compromise on some of those; certainly it would be surprising if everything lined up just so. The main requirements are that it be coastal and wet; cold and rugged would be nice but aren't absolutely necessary. The Pacific Northwest would be ideal in terms of geography but I think someone else already has Canada? On a completely blank map I'd probably take Oregon, Washington, British Colombia, Yukon and Alaska - possibly just to the Rockies - but yeah, Canada is unavailable I think. Elsewise it could easily go in Central America (Equador is wet), Brazil, Indonesia, South-East Asia, or so forth. Coastal South Africa is a possibility, albeit possibly drier than I'd prefer.

New England would also be a possibility, although I was under the impression it'd been claimed by someone else.


As far as I know, Oregon, Washington, BC, Yukon and Alaska are all free...


Really? I thought you had some kind of Slavic despotism in Canada. In any case while that'd be ideal geographically, it might leave me in the back of beyond politically. Does anyone know what exactly is claimed in the American Northeast? I know Walmington is up around Labrador and Newfoundland, and Virginia is, appropriately, down in Virginia ...

And does anyone have problems with the economy? That side of things isn't my strong suit, but I did my best.

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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:51 pm

Ah, that would probably be NG's old claim.

I'm not sure where your economy would fit in; we seem to have quite a few "rugged but obsolete" vendors running about. The Shield, Modrovia, J&H and the ubiquitous BG all are sellers of old Soviet equipment (which, without an America, isn't that old anymore!). If anything, inevitably slow but can take a beating sounds like the USSR on the nose. So with all those other vendors running around, I'm not sure how you can reasonably compete; especially with the greater distance between you and your main competitors with the major markets (North Africa, the Middle East ect).

In AMW, we usually allow the nation who controls the geographic location of a company's headquarters to control that company. Washington controls quite a few high-tech companies, Boeing springs to mind and Boeing is certainly not the cheap rugged sort of producer. So perhaps a re-think is in order?
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Postby Iskarajan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:00 pm

Maxen von Bismarck wrote:Ah, that would probably be NG's old claim.

I'm not sure where your economy would fit in; we seem to have quite a few "rugged but obsolete" vendors running about. The Shield, Modrovia, J&H and the ubiquitous BG all are sellers of old Soviet equipment (which, without an America, isn't that old anymore!). If anything, inevitably slow but can take a beating sounds like the USSR on the nose. So with all those other vendors running around, I'm not sure how you can reasonably compete; especially with the greater distance between you and your main competitors with the major markets (North Africa, the Middle East ect).

In AMW, we usually allow the nation who controls the geographic location of a company's headquarters to control that company. Washington controls quite a few high-tech companies, Boeing springs to mind and Boeing is certainly not the cheap rugged sort of producer. So perhaps a re-think is in order?


Hmm ... I *could* go high-tech and do Japanese-style tech-savvy consumerism, it'd fit fairly well with the Iskaran focus on trade and inter-clan one-up-man-ship. Plus I like space and avionics would give me a chance for delicious space program horrible mishaps glorious progress.

Could you list exactly what claims are already extant in the area, please? I'd rather not tread on anyone's toes.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:18 pm

Normally we don't talk about claims just yet, but since others are in agreement, I cannot think of a reason not to join them. In Asia, precious little is claimed. SE Asia is home to Drapol, and TCB is about to shift his claim from Asia. Iran is claimed, and basically the whole of Russia is claimed. Sumatra in Indonesia is currently claimed, and Bali is currently in the posession of the French, but soon to be Chrinthani. Of course, I am in control of Australia, New Zealand, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, and Vanuatu along with other small territories under the RL Australian and New Zealand flags.
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Tsaraine
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Postby Tsaraine » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:16 pm

You want more neighbours, don't you. :P

Are there any more questions/concerns/queries/whatevers I can answer? I'm eager to get stuck in!

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:20 pm

Tsaraine wrote:You want more neighbours, don't you. :P

Are there any more questions/concerns/queries/whatevers I can answer? I'm eager to get stuck in!


Tsar? Are you Iskarajan? I am confuzzled, and yes, what more could a rich, economically great, and militarily decent empire want other than a few people to lord it over share it with.

At any rate, the realization that a name with red letter was on our thread brought me over thinking there was something else happening. Not used to seeing Moderator red in this thread! :P At any rate, I would pop over to the offsite and register http://z7.invisionfree.com/A_Modern_World. I can approve you as soon as you do.
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About Me: Just your typical aging gay man trying desperately to retain what youth remains within himself.
Always remember you are loved and cherished. You are my friend and that means the world to me!
You can address me as "Your Indefatigable Greatness" or "Chrin." Whichever you choose. I'm not picky. Also, the pronoun is "he" since I'm a gay dude.
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Iskarajan
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Postby Iskarajan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:15 pm

Ack! My secret identity revealed! Yes, citizens, mild-mannered Iskarajan is secretly Tsaraine the Game Moderator, the Ender of Hope! Cower before my true form and despair! :P

I'll go sign up on your offsite now, then.

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:39 pm

Iskarajan wrote:Ack! My secret identity revealed! Yes, citizens, mild-mannered Iskarajan is secretly Tsaraine the Game Moderator, the Ender of Hope! Cower before my true form and despair! :P

I'll go sign up on your offsite now, then.


Hehehe. Well, I don't cower before mods. Though, I do offer cups of coffee, cigarettes if so inclined, and a special brownie that I learned to make from a Jamaican man wearing a rather large smile. You have been approved for the offsite forum. There you can see our factbooks, see whats been happening, and whatnot. We've yet to hear from many members of the group, but there's stuff you can read now to give you a better idea of what we do.

We're a pretty jovial group and we do get on well, especially when in our IRC room.
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About Me: Just your typical aging gay man trying desperately to retain what youth remains within himself.
Always remember you are loved and cherished. You are my friend and that means the world to me!
You can address me as "Your Indefatigable Greatness" or "Chrin." Whichever you choose. I'm not picky. Also, the pronoun is "he" since I'm a gay dude.
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Part of A Modern World RP group.

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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:52 pm

Christ, I feel like we just dodged a bullet! I was just flipping down the screen and 'ka-pow!' Moderator Red, nothing quite like that except perhaps... Nope, nothing quite like it.

Yeah, join the IRC (even though I'm not on and probably won't be tonight!) because we're awesome and shizzle.

(All use of the word 'shizzle' is attributed to Unreal.)
Retired Nation. :)

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Chrinthanium » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:02 am

Maxen von Bismarck wrote:Christ, I feel like we just dodged a bullet! I was just flipping down the screen and 'ka-pow!' Moderator Red, nothing quite like that except perhaps... Nope, nothing quite like it.

Yeah, join the IRC (even though I'm not on and probably won't be tonight!) because we're awesome and shizzle.

(All use of the word 'shizzle' is attributed to Unreal.)


Cause you suck, that's why you won't let Ian and myself grace your with out presence! LOL. :P

Seriously, though, Iskarajan is as in-depth of a claim as I have seen. I like the application, and, as such, do believe you will be a valued member of the group.
About Me: Just your typical aging gay man trying desperately to retain what youth remains within himself.
Always remember you are loved and cherished. You are my friend and that means the world to me!
You can address me as "Your Indefatigable Greatness" or "Chrin." Whichever you choose. I'm not picky. Also, the pronoun is "he" since I'm a gay dude.
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Part of A Modern World RP group.

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