Obama depicted as Chimpazee... Racist or Not?

[The Black Plains]

There were a ton of pictures/cartoons of Bush looking like a chimpanzee. Just because it could have racist connotations doesn't mean that it does.

Most of those pictures were a specific juxtoposition of Bush making a particular facial expression with a chimpanzee making a similar expression. Done to imply that Bush...well...kinda looks like a chimp.

Here there's no context to presuppose that Obama's PARTICULAR features resemble anything of the sort. Just the implication that he, and his family, are apes, and not people.

Context, after all, is everything.

... Are you... I just... I... I'm sorry the double standards that leftist statists impose are just mind-boggling... I just... I can't... My God.

[The Parkus Empire]

Obama's parents are in the picture, too, and similarly depicted as chimpanzees. It's pretty ridiculous to combine that with the caption and not consider it racist.

[Malgrave]

Most of those pictures were a specific juxtoposition of Bush making a particular facial expression with a chimpanzee making a similar expression. Done to imply that Bush...well...kinda looks like a chimp.

Here there's no context to presuppose that Obama's PARTICULAR features resemble anything of the sort. Just the implication that he, and his family, are apes, and not people.

Context, after all, is everything.

^ This. I remember seeing two sorts of ape-based jokes with Bush - as NA said, pictures of him making the same facial expressions as chimps, where the joke was, "heh, Bush makes the same facial expressions as chimps," and a picture of him as Curious George, where the joke was "heh, Bush makes the same facial expressions as chimps, and also his name is George." You might reasonably include "and he's kinda dumb" as an implication there, but not "and his entire race is subhuman." Putting a picture of Obama making a normal facial expression on a chimp's body doesn't imply "Obama does something like a chimp." It doesn't imply "heh, there's a famous fictional monkey named Barack." It implies, "har har, just in and of himself, not doing anything in particular, he's basically an animal, not a human."

This.

[Neo Art]

Yes, because depicting black men as monkeys doesn't have a long racist history in the united states

I think you might have meant "depicting white men as monkeys doesn't have a long racist history". Yes?

No. It's called sarcasm. If you're unfamiliar with the concept perhaps you should read up on it.

While I believe this is popular thought, can you document the history of black men depicted as monkeys?

........fucking seriously?

[Angleter]

Bush being presented as a monkey was attacking his intelligence. Not something I approve of, but still legitimate. Portraying Obama- a coloured man- as a monkey is most definitely racially insensitive at the least, and was probably racially motivated.

[Neo Art]

Most of those pictures were a specific juxtoposition of Bush making a particular facial expression with a chimpanzee making a similar expression. Done to imply that Bush...well...kinda looks like a chimp.

Here there's no context to presuppose that Obama's PARTICULAR features resemble anything of the sort. Just the implication that he, and his family, are apes, and not people.

Context, after all, is everything.

... Are you... I just... I... I'm sorry the double standards that leftist statists impose are just mind-boggling... I just... I can't... My God.

Apparently you feel mentally strained from having to think about things. I am sorry I caused such an inconvenience.

[Malgrave]

What this article does not mention is that Obama's parents are in the picture, too, and similarly depicted as chimpanzees. It's pretty ridiculous to combine that with the caption and not consider it racist.

Really? I just saw the cropped image with Obama. Adding his entire family just makes it too racist to describe.

[The Black Plains]

What this article does not mention is that Obama's parents are in the picture, too, and similarly depicted as chimpanzees. It's pretty ridiculous to combine that with the caption and not consider it racist.

Hm. Wow that is pretty racist. But my point is that even if it wasn't the same exact people that are sniffing up and down this forum would still shout "Zomg Racist" at the top of their lungs because, quite frankly, it's become a fucking rallying point for American liberals to call their opponents racist. It's okay though, right? Because it's part of their culture.

[The Black Plains]

... Are you... I just... I... I'm sorry the double standards that leftist statists impose are just mind-boggling... I just... I can't... My God.

I'm sorry that you feel mentally strained from having to think about things then. it must be difficult.

I must respond to you with a simple:

Oh, please.

And that is only the fourth time I have ever used the facepalm emot.

[Siorafrica]

He does look like a chimp and Mc Cain looked like an eagle.* More importantly he's an idiot so I don't see anything wrong with it. Plus,far less civil things are all over the internet and their defenders are remorseless and nobody else gives much of a feck.
*Can't bloody figure out Palin or that other guy.

[The Parkus Empire]

What this article does not mention is that Obama's parents are in the picture, too, and similarly depicted as chimpanzees. It's pretty ridiculous to combine that with the caption and not consider it racist.

Really? I just saw the cropped image with Obama. Adding his entire family just makes it too racist to describe.

Actually, it does mention it. Surprisingly I and a few other posters missed it the first time. Weird.

"The email sent on Friday by Davenport to a small group of Republican committee members shows an image posed like a family portrait, of chimpanzee parents and child, with Obama's face superimposed on the young chimp."

[Neo Art]

What this article does not mention is that Obama's parents are in the picture, too, and similarly depicted as chimpanzees. It's pretty ridiculous to combine that with the caption and not consider it racist.

Hm. Wow that is pretty racist. But my point is that even if it wasn't the same exact people that are sniffing up and down this forum would still shout "Zomg Racist" at the top of their lungs because, quite frankly, it's become a fucking rallying point for American liberals to call their opponents racist. It's okay though, right? Because it's part of their culture.

So us "american liberals" just like calling racist things racist then? I'm truly confused at the point you're trying to make here. "Gee, that's just like you LIBERALS to call something racist just because it happens to be pretty racist!"

[Horsefish]

What this article does not mention is that Obama's parents are in the picture, too, and similarly depicted as chimpanzees. It's pretty ridiculous to combine that with the caption and not consider it racist.

Hm. Wow that is pretty racist. But my point is that even if it wasn't the same exact people that are sniffing up and down this forum would still shout "Zomg Racist" at the top of their lungs because, quite frankly, it's become a fucking rallying point for American liberals to call their opponents racist. It's okay though, right? Because it's part of their culture.

The same thing as conservitives/an-caps/whatever ideology you identify with to group everyone into a hive-mind?

I'd say very bad racist undertones and although it may not have been ment to be racist if the person didn't see this backfiring then their a moron.

Essentially- I agree with Angleter

[Neo Art]

I'm sorry that you feel mentally strained from having to think about things then. it must be difficult.

I must respond to you with a simple:

Oh, please.

And that is only the fourth time I have ever used the facepalm emot.

The fact that this is what you come up with as a reply doesn't diminish the veracity of my post.

[The Parkus Empire]

What this article does not mention is that Obama's parents are in the picture, too, and similarly depicted as chimpanzees. It's pretty ridiculous to combine that with the caption and not consider it racist.

Hm. Wow that is pretty racist. But my point is that even if it wasn't the same exact people that are sniffing up and down this forum would still shout "Zomg Racist" at the top of their lungs because, quite frankly, it's become a fucking rallying point for American liberals to call their opponents racist. It's okay though, right? Because it's part of their culture.

There is a strong current of racism (and homophobia and religious bigotry) within the right wing; being suspicious of that isn't so crazy.

[Fozzielund]

What this article does not mention is that Obama's parents are in the picture, too, and similarly depicted as chimpanzees. It's pretty ridiculous to combine that with the caption and not consider it racist.

Hm. Wow that is pretty racist. But my point is that even if it wasn't the same exact people that are sniffing up and down this forum would still shout "Zomg Racist" at the top of their lungs because, quite frankly, it's become a fucking rallying point for American liberals to call their opponents racist. It's okay though, right? Because it's part of their culture.

Liberalism 101: When you're backed into a corner, call the opposition racist and run away like a little bitch.

FYI - Political satire, not racist. Sambo, racist. Obama cartoons, not racist. Black face, racist.

[Carrilipolis]

There's too much negative history of African Americans being dehumanized by being depicted as monkeys for the cartoon to ever be a good idea. Let alone a political maneuver. Even if the cartoon didn't have racist intentions, it's easily seen as racist to many and the Republican Party member should have been smart enough to see that.

[The Atlantean Menace]

Really? I just saw the cropped image with Obama. Adding his entire family just makes it too racist to describe.

Actually, it does mention it. Surprisingly I and a few other posters missed it the first time. Weird.

"The email sent on Friday by Davenport to a small group of Republican committee members shows an image posed like a family portrait, of chimpanzee parents and child, with Obama's face superimposed on the young chimp."

Oh, okay, the addition of his family increases the racism quotient pretty significantly.

[Neo Art]

Hm. Wow that is pretty racist. But my point is that even if it wasn't the same exact people that are sniffing up and down this forum would still shout "Zomg Racist" at the top of their lungs because, quite frankly, it's become a fucking rallying point for American liberals to call their opponents racist. It's okay though, right? Because it's part of their culture.

There is a strong current of racism (and homophobia and religious bigotry) within the right wing; being suspicious of that isn't so crazy.

This too is a valid point. A group that has displayed a staggering amount of bigotry and racism does something that could be construed as racist...yeah, presupposing that it's probably racist isn't exactly going out on a fucking limb.

[Neo Art]

Okay so, just out of curiosity, what if he DID have absolutely no intention of racism when he drew it. Would it still be bad because of the "history behind it"?

Then he's a historically ignorant moron.

[The Black Plains]

Hm. Wow that is pretty racist. But my point is that even if it wasn't the same exact people that are sniffing up and down this forum would still shout "Zomg Racist" at the top of their lungs because, quite frankly, it's become a fucking rallying point for American liberals to call their opponents racist. It's okay though, right? Because it's part of their culture.

There is a strong current of racism (and homophobia and religious bigotry) within the right wing; being suspicious of that isn't so crazy.

It goes over the top. I know it, you know it.

[Sremski okrug]

The United States continues to surprise me everyday, delving deeper into craziness. I don't see how editing Obama's family onto the face of chimps can be seen as anything but blatant racism.

[Horsefish]

There is a strong current of racism (and homophobia and religious bigotry) within the right wing; being suspicious of that isn't so crazy.

It goes over the top. I know it, you know it.

It goes over the top because someties the level of intolerence voiced by someone who identifies as right wing goes over the top.

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

I'm not a mind reader, and it seems common form to display the US Government's key players as chimps, so I can't say for sure.

[The Black Plains]

Okay so, just out of curiosity, what if he DID have absolutely no intention of racism when he drew it. Would it still be bad because of the "history behind it"?

Then he's a historically ignorant moron.

Or or or... MAYBE he just doesn't care what political correctness zealots like you think at all!