[DRAFT] Liberate NAZI EUROPE

[Laos Refugees]

Do ya think you coulda clued us in and i had no intentions whatsoever of placing anyone in power, id like to see some proof of this. And do you expect it to be all hunky dory and have things go back the way it was? I highly doubt you'll let your cabinet back in, hence the special ban you put on us and not an ejection.

The ban isn't special, you'll notice I Ejected+banned everyone at first, then switched to Ejection. Just a foolish mistake on my part. I'll gladly allow everyone back into the new region, seeing as they'll be unable to act against me. I don't expect anything to be 'hunky dory', if you can not see what I am trying to achieve then that is your own fault, not mine.

[Scarsaw]

Wow, lots have happened since I first poked my head in. I must apologize for how long this post and I'll try to respond to the best of my ability.

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But would they want to?

It sets the precedent that the admins will have to continually do this. What if a region is condemned with a generic name, and resurrected in five years.. do they have to go through the process of repealing? Isn't it wrong for the World Assembly to set a prejudge against a new community?

I agree with Unibot that by having the admins enforcing condemnations any time a condemned region is founded again, could lead to problems. In addition, founding it again will place it under new management. Shouldn't such new management have a clean slate or shall the sins of the father be that of the sons?

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*wipes tears of laughter from eyes*

Should read as follows: nazi europe has a long and infamous history...Nevertheless, it is a region run with a proven degenerate ideology or history in ns.
The wording of this paragraph is suspect, particularly the use of the words 'healthy region'. Even with Laos's so called 'racist ban' ne would never let Jews (note, not trolls) flying the Israeli flag into the region.

Majority of those who flew the flag of Israel within NE were trolling. I cannot think of one instance when it was proven the person was not. I'm sure if someone flew a communist flag in a capitalist region, they too would be suspected of trolling and banned.

(To Scarsaw and the other nazi revisionist clowns, you had this coming for so long and now you run to the sc who you have previously criticized on many occasions for its 'unfair' treatment of ne.
Scarsaw, I have no interest if your mother converted to Judaism. You support a real life ideology that has been proven without an iota of doubt to be totally corrupt and morally bankrupt in its treatment and subsequent genocide of certain sections of humanity. You can witter on to your hearts content about how nazi germany was doing fine until the Wannsee Conference, but the reality of the situation was that certain groups of people knew that the writing was on the wall long before this and decided to leave, if they could. Did you hear the one about the Jew who wanted to remain a resident of nazi germany? No, neither did I.
For your information sound systems, oh how we remember those halcyon genocidal days, DID discuss the most 'efficient way' of gassing jews on the rmb of ne).

My mother has nothing to do with the debate and I would appreciate it if you do not bring up my personal life as it is irrelevant. Also, it irks me how you apparently know so much about my life, yet not take note that I do not follow Nazism but do think more about a civic-based National Socialism. I study Nazism and Nazi Germany, but that does not mean I believe or follow it. One can know about Christianity and study it without being a Christan.

With that said, it is neither here nor there and I would appreciate it if you do not bring it up again. This is supposed to be about the nation, not the player.

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This is quite outrageous. I have spoken to many of the nations that are in Black Front about refounding the region, the issue was, who was going to refound it. When I told them that it should be me, they knowingly started to support Scarsaw to take the delegate position from me. I have done nothing wrong, and there is nothing wrong with the region. I have contacted the founder, just so he knows that this is the best plan. Sure, it'll take me a estimated 50 days to remove everyone, due to foolish way I went through with the plan, but it still will work. This has less to do with a condemnation then it does with having a more active founder.

I never heard of refounding the region before, nor do I recall this conversation of "who was going to refound it." In addition, no one was supporting me to take the delegate position as it is well known that I don't wish to hold a position of responsibility. We were discussing on how we can better the region by having a RP night on the RMB, not how we can plan a coup.

I also believe you're lying about contacting the founder.

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First off i'm not going to argue with someone that has countless palindromes in their argument, whilst frankly being head of a raider region i'm against nearly all liberation therefore I don't care the slightest about the region of the republicans i thought it was funny when a region call the republicans needed to be liberated.

I don't understand how what I said "can be read the same way in either direction." We can agree to disagree, as that seems to be what you're saying, but you cannot claim my texts to be a palindrome. If I did write a palindrome, I would certainly be impressed with myself!

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I never changed the password, the password I put in has been the same since I put it in. If you're asking why its password protected, its simple, I don't really feel like having some raiders led by Scarsaw to take the region,and twisting it into god knows what, "dontchaknow".

Once again I never planned to take the region. Also, if you're doing this for the greater good of the region, why did you send me the telegram:

"Go nuts, you call it.

Most amusing out look you have there. I've always hated National Socialism, yet you fools opened your arms and called me a comrade. You all should have listened to Poed Metalhedz, he was the only one who thought that a Asian in N.E was suspicious. But here I am, it took me a full year to pool enough trust so I could cause more turmoil for N.E. Some might call me a Communist spy, but that is not the truth. I am amused at how easily this worked, the forums are trashed, the region full of inactive children, and the founder isn't going to do anything, why would he? Now I get to sit back and watch and see what happens to N.E, one of the inactive nations will probably become delegate, and then leave having no idea what to do."

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For the record, here was the RMB and the conversation that lead to Laos' actions.

Part 1
Part 2

Note that the "proposal" CR was talking about was the idea of setting up a RP night on the RMB in order to increase activity and cohesion.

[Laos Refugees]

I never heard of refounding the region before, nor do I recall this conversation of "who was going to refound it." In addition, no one was supporting me to take the delegate position as it is well known that I don't wish to hold a position of responsibility. We were discussing on how we can better the region by having a RP night on the RMB, not how we can plan a coup.

I also believe you're lying about contacting the founder.


Once again I never planned to take the region. Also, if you're doing this for the greater good of the region, why did you send me the telegram:


For the record, here was the RMB and the conversation that lead to Laos' actions.

Part 1
Part 2

Note that the "proposal" CR was talking about was the idea of setting up a RP night on the RMB in order to increase activity and cohesion.

Its not my fault if you don't remember me suggesting it to you. Also, I never said you were planning your pathetic coup on the RMB, obviously no one would fall for such a lie. Plus, why would I lie about contacting the founder? I have sent him a telegram informing him of my plans, its only polite.
I'm surprised you think your links are so innocent, I didn't have a problem with a RP night, I had a problem with the fact you brought on a five paragraph post, basically telling me I was unfit to govern, this combined with quite a few arguments where you showed your disloyalty. You may not have planned a coup, or wanted to take the region, but you made it appear pretty well.

Ah, and before anyone brings it up, the troll face, the cat flag, the Jewish quotes, all of it was to increase support from regions who foolishly thought I was doing this just for shits and giggles. If you get a region like TTI on your side because they think your against National Socialism, you can easily get away with anything. Sure, it was wrong, but I did what was necessary. I have since then, changed the region back, so I can make it clear I am not hiding behind any false colors.

The initial telegram was drunken bullshit, I didn't even remember what I sent until someone posted it. It was part of the plan to get regions on my side so I could put down any attempts to repeal. It was necessary, there are far more Anti-Nazi and simple Communists regions who would jump on my side if they learned I was against the government type, it is all part of the long term goal. Plain and Simple.

[An Empty Mop Bucket]

Someone throws an empty mop bucket at the Unibotian delegation. Taped to the mop bucket is a note reading "Oh Good! We're gonna vote on Nazis again! Thank you Unibot!".

[Ambassador of NE]

My ears are burning...

Laos, the last thing TCE did in NE was allow the delegate (me) to have access to regional controls. He sent me a telegram which I saved - unfortunately, that was on my original nation which was deleted.

However I know that he did not want the region refounded. The two of us actually shared a few telegrams since he began his "hiatus", if you like, as I would update him on regional and global happenings and we would have nice discussions about this and that, it was all rather lovely.

Anyway, that isn't my point. You were given control of the region, somewhat foolishly, by SS, for lack of a better willing candidate - we both felt that CR and Metalist (the other options) would turn the region into the GGR or simply lose interest. SS only had his control through my deletion, and NoE's slightly illegitimate tactics regarding WA membership for nations, but despite reports these were ignored.

Anyhoo, you should have paid respect where it was due. It isn't your place to decide to refound the region, especially without telling anyone. It's in the game rules that you can do it, but do you honestly think you will refound? I think your actual intentions are clear - simply destroy it, allow a GDP member to refound it, and bugger off someplace else with your throbbing e-penis between your legs.

Perhaps I am wrong, and you are simply following up what I considered a plan after SS became delegate for the first time. However now, I'd be surprised if even half of NE came back. I at least held discussions to see what people thought. Many were against it.

I'm for the liberation. Hell, I'd even throw myself in there to be delegate again. I even pursued a policy of free speech - and I did my best to repair damage caused by things like Iran and the BUF, if any old hands here remember that.

-GN

[Laos Refugees]

Respect, whom am I suppose to respect? Some deadbeats that abandoned the region? It is my choice, once Oh my days handed the delegate position to myself,he should have known I would do whatever I needed to. The region needs to be refounded, there's no point in not refounding it. The region needs a new makeover, a new community, a new leader, a new cabinet. I don't intend on ruling a new Nazi Europe, I want to make sure there is someone there to protect it and nourish it, so it doesn't turn into the ghost-town like it was doomed to. Do you think TCEs wish really matters? It doesn't, it really doesn't. This new change may be sudden, but it is necessary if N.E is to survive.

[Ambassador of NE]

Respect, whom am I suppose to respect? Some deadbeats that abandoned the region? It is my choice, once Oh my days handed the delegate position to myself,he should have known I would do whatever I needed to. The region needs to be refounded, there's no point in not refounding it. The region needs a new makeover, a new community, a new leader, a new cabinet. I don't intend on ruling a new Nazi Europe, I want to make sure there is someone there to protect it and nourish it, so it doesn't turn into the ghost-town like it was doomed to. Do you think TCEs wish really matters? It doesn't, it really doesn't. This new change may be sudden, but it is necessary if N.E is to survive.

NE does not and never has needed a cabinet. The government positions I created were only to give people like SS the feeling that they were actually contributing to something.

It hardly turned in to a ghost town. You weren't even there when TCE was active - there were barely 20 of us, permanently squabbling and fighting amongst ourselves. There was an election, of all things, and the losing parties seceded. The delegate then decided to go against the Founder's wishes, and caused another split.

It was only through my delegacy did I gather more than five times the nations it had, and I brought about a proper community without ever needing the Founder. It was never a ghost town, nor was it doomed to become one. Plenty of regions exist perfectly without a Founder. NE existed perfectly without a Founder. It is people in the region who cause problems.

You're right, NE does need a new leader, and a new community. I think I can provide both.

[Scarsaw]

Its not my fault if you don't remember me suggesting it to you. Also, I never said you were planning your pathetic coup on the RMB, obviously no one would fall for such a lie. Plus, why would I lie about contacting the founder? I have sent him a telegram informing him of my plans, its only polite.

I don't remember such a suggestion because you never gave it. Something as important as refounding a region would not have slipped my mind, especially since we were "only deciding who should lead it." In addition, sending the founder a telegram before banning him is not the same as contacting him. Contacting implies you are mutually speaking (or in contact) with each other and he supports this idea. Sending him an FYI is, at most, informing him.

I'm surprised you think your links are so innocent, I didn't have a problem with a RP night, I had a problem with the fact you brought on a five paragraph post, basically telling me I was unfit to govern, this combined with quite a few arguments where you showed your disloyalty. You may not have planned a coup, or wanted to take the region, but you made it appear pretty well.

I see no wrong that I have done in those posts, but shall leave it in the hands of the reader. I have nothing to hide. If people see that as a disloyal argument, than let them use that against me as I will defend what I said. I did say you needed to lead or move out of the way; however, I made it clear that if you decide to lead, I would be more than willing to help you as much as I can. To be honest, I could care less if you held the position or not. What I cared about was what was being done by the person in the position, and that was what I hoped to change.

Ah, and before anyone brings it up, the troll face, the cat flag, the Jewish quotes, all of it was to increase support from regions who foolishly thought I was doing this just for shits and giggles. If you get a region like TTI on your side because they think your against National Socialism, you can easily get away with anything. Sure, it was wrong, but I did what was necessary. I have since then, changed the region back, so I can make it clear I am not hiding behind any false colors.

To be honest, that's insulting to regions like TTI, as you're implying that they allow those who are against National Socialism "easily get away with anything." Than again, who am I to say.

The initial telegram was drunken bullshit, I didn't even remember what I sent until someone posted it. It was part of the plan to get regions on my side so I could put down any attempts to repeal. It was necessary, there are far more Anti-Nazi and simple Communists regions who would jump on my side if they learned I was against the government type, it is all part of the long term goal. Plain and Simple.

...but you admit to writing it.

Considering that you only sent it to me and not posted it anywhere yourself, how would you have known that I wouldn't have deleted it in simple anger or disgust? Like most things you've been saying these last few days, I greatly question it as it makes little sense and seems more like an after thought to cover your actions rather than original intention.

[Unibotian WA Mission]

Someone throws an empty mop bucket at the Unibotian delegation. Taped to the mop bucket is a note reading "Oh Good! We're gonna vote on Nazis again! Thank you Unibot!".

Kuno Krugner got smacked in the head with the empty mop bucket, and collapsed across another delegation's table. Eduard shrugged, he deserved it, he figured.

[Laos Refugees]

NE does not and never has needed a cabinet. The government positions I created were only to give people like SS the feeling that they were actually contributing to something.

It hardly turned in to a ghost town. You weren't even there when TCE was active - there were barely 20 of us, permanently squabbling and fighting amongst ourselves. There was an election, of all things, and the losing parties seceded. The delegate then decided to go against the Founder's wishes, and caused another split.

It was only through my delegacy did I gather more than five times the nations it had, and I brought about a proper community without ever needing the Founder. It was never a ghost town, nor was it doomed to become one. Plenty of regions exist perfectly without a Founder. NE existed perfectly without a Founder. It is people in the region who cause problems.

You're right, NE does need a new leader, and a new community. I think I can provide both.

I would have gladly given the position to someone more experienced, even more so for you. Of course, now its a little late for that. We weren't achieving anything, I made the plans, I got the people in their jobs that they were best suited for, but time and time again, the community showed they weren't going to work at full efficiency. A active founder and a active delegate is better then a delegate who has nothing to work with.

I don't remember such a suggestion because you never gave it. Something as important as refounding a region would not have slipped my mind, especially since we were "only deciding who should lead it." In addition, sending the founder a telegram before banning him is not the same as contacting him. Contacting implies you are mutually speaking (or in contact) with each other and he supports this idea. Sending him an FYI is, at most, informing him.


I did give suggest it, but I can see this is going to get back and forth, so fuck it. I have never talked to TCE before, so I have to simply hope he understands the current situation and acts intelligently.

I see no wrong that I have done in those posts, but shall leave it in the hands of the reader. I have nothing to hide. If people see that as a disloyal argument, than let them use that against me as I will defend what I said. I did say you needed to lead or move out of the way; however, I made it clear that if you decide to lead, I would be more than willing to help you as much as I can. To be honest, I could care less if you held the position or not. What I cared about was what was being done by the person in the position, and that was what I hoped to change.

You didn't contribute anything, and you were always arguing about my position on TGGR, and how I handled troublemakers like Christian Reich. I don't seem to understand what you don't get about it, Black Front is exactly the same as N.E was to you, you still get your little teaparties, the only thing that has changed is there are a lot less alts.

To be honest, that's insulting to regions like TTI, as you're implying that they allow those who are against National Socialism "easily get away with anything." Than again, who am I to say.
I did what I had to. There's not exactly a bunch of people with baskets coming to you everytime you dig a hole for yourself.
...but you admit to writing it.

Considering that you only sent it to me and not posted it anywhere yourself, how would you have known that I wouldn't have deleted it in simple anger or disgust? Like most things you've been saying these last few days, I greatly question it as it makes little sense and seems more like an after thought to cover your actions rather than original intention.

It makes perfect sense to me. You were obviously the most intelligent of the main active nations, I have never seen you get angered or disgusted, and I was hoping you would spread it around like the fucking plague. Because if you didn't, I lost nothing. But if you did, I potentially gained allies who would be excited to work with someone in such a intriguing state. There is obviously no way to simply reverse what I have done, so I need to take advantage of every possible message. It does make my actions cloudy, but I can assure everyone that the whole purpose of this is to better Nazi Europe.

[The Christian Reich]

NE does not and never has needed a cabinet. The government positions I created were only to give people like SS the feeling that they were actually contributing to something.

It hardly turned in to a ghost town. You weren't even there when TCE was active - there were barely 20 of us, permanently squabbling and fighting amongst ourselves. There was an election, of all things, and the losing parties seceded. The delegate then decided to go against the Founder's wishes, and caused another split.

It was only through my delegacy did I gather more than five times the nations it had, and I brought about a proper community without ever needing the Founder. It was never a ghost town, nor was it doomed to become one. Plenty of regions exist perfectly without a Founder. NE existed perfectly without a Founder. It is people in the region who cause problems.

You're right, NE does need a new leader, and a new community. I think I can provide both.

I would have gladly given the position to someone more experienced, even more so for you. Of course, now its a little late for that. We weren't achieving anything, I made the plans, I got the people in their jobs that they were best suited for, but time and time again, the community showed they weren't going to work at full efficiency. A active founder and a active delegate is better then a delegate who has nothing to work with.

I don't remember such a suggestion because you never gave it. Something as important as refounding a region would not have slipped my mind, especially since we were "only deciding who should lead it." In addition, sending the founder a telegram before banning him is not the same as contacting him. Contacting implies you are mutually speaking (or in contact) with each other and he supports this idea. Sending him an FYI is, at most, informing him.


I did give suggest it, but I can see this is going to get back and forth, so fuck it. I have never talked to TCE before, so I have to simply hope he understands the current situation and acts intelligently.

I see no wrong that I have done in those posts, but shall leave it in the hands of the reader. I have nothing to hide. If people see that as a disloyal argument, than let them use that against me as I will defend what I said. I did say you needed to lead or move out of the way; however, I made it clear that if you decide to lead, I would be more than willing to help you as much as I can. To be honest, I could care less if you held the position or not. What I cared about was what was being done by the person in the position, and that was what I hoped to change.

You didn't contribute anything, and you were always arguing about my position on TGGR, and how I handled troublemakers like Christian Reich. I don't seem to understand what you don't get about it, Black Front is exactly the same as N.E was to you, you still get your little teaparties, the only thing that has changed is there are a lot less alts.

To be honest, that's insulting to regions like TTI, as you're implying that they allow those who are against National Socialism "easily get away with anything." Than again, who am I to say.
I did what I had to. There's not exactly a bunch of people with baskets coming to you everytime you dig a hole for yourself.
...but you admit to writing it.

Considering that you only sent it to me and not posted it anywhere yourself, how would you have known that I wouldn't have deleted it in simple anger or disgust? Like most things you've been saying these last few days, I greatly question it as it makes little sense and seems more like an after thought to cover your actions rather than original intention.

It makes perfect sense to me. You were obviously the most intelligent of the main active nations, I have never seen you get angered or disgusted, and I was hoping you would spread it around like the fucking plague. Because if you didn't, I lost nothing. But if you did, I potentially gained allies who would be excited to work with someone in such a intriguing state. There is obviously no way to simply reverse what I have done, so I need to take advantage of every possible message. It does make my actions cloudy, but I can assure everyone that the whole purpose of this is to better Nazi Europe.

I was about to raid the region when you kicked me out, I couldn't do it because G.D. needed more time, and you don't have a choice to re-found the region, I want to stay in my region that I have stayed in for so long, not a new one. I am one of the few people here who spoke to the founder on a regular basis, I knew him much more then most of you did. Also telling Scarsaw that that telegram was drunken drivel, I could say the same thing when I do something stupid, but I don't I man up to it.

[The Christian Reich]

My ears are burning...

Laos, the last thing TCE did in NE was allow the delegate (me) to have access to regional controls. He sent me a telegram which I saved - unfortunately, that was on my original nation which was deleted.

However I know that he did not want the region refounded. The two of us actually shared a few telegrams since he began his "hiatus", if you like, as I would update him on regional and global happenings and we would have nice discussions about this and that, it was all rather lovely.

Anyway, that isn't my point. You were given control of the region, somewhat foolishly, by SS, for lack of a better willing candidate - we both felt that CR and Metalist (the other options) would turn the region into the GGR or simply lose interest. SS only had his control through my deletion, and NoE's slightly illegitimate tactics regarding WA membership for nations, but despite reports these were ignored.

Anyhoo, you should have paid respect where it was due. It isn't your place to decide to refound the region, especially without telling anyone. It's in the game rules that you can do it, but do you honestly think you will refound? I think your actual intentions are clear - simply destroy it, allow a GDP member to refound it, and bugger off someplace else with your throbbing e-penis between your legs.

Perhaps I am wrong, and you are simply following up what I considered a plan after SS became delegate for the first time. However now, I'd be surprised if even half of NE came back. I at least held discussions to see what people thought. Many were against it.

I'm for the liberation. Hell, I'd even throw myself in there to be delegate again. I even pursued a policy of free speech - and I did my best to repair damage caused by things like Iran and the BUF, if any old hands here remember that.

-GN

Ay I was there on all occasions, I helped with the Iran thing.

[Laos Refugees]

I was about to raid the region when you kicked me out, I couldn't do it because G.D. needed more time, and you don't have a choice to re-found the region, I want to stay in my region that I have stayed in for so long, not a new one. I am one of the few people here who spoke to the founder on a regular basis, I knew him much more then most of you did. Also telling Scarsaw that that telegram was drunken drivel, I could say the same thing when I do something stupid, but I don't I man up to it.

I don't need excuses, you get the job done, or tell me you can't do it, simple.

[The Christian Reich]

I was about to raid the region when you kicked me out, I couldn't do it because G.D. needed more time, and you don't have a choice to re-found the region, I want to stay in my region that I have stayed in for so long, not a new one. I am one of the few people here who spoke to the founder on a regular basis, I knew him much more then most of you did. Also telling Scarsaw that that telegram was drunken drivel, I could say the same thing when I do something stupid, but I don't I man up to it.

I don't need excuses, you get the job done, or tell me you can't do it, simple.

Have you ever raided a region?

[Des Allemands]

Has anyone actually SPOKEN to the founder before?

Scarsaw?

Probably Oh my days and Good Nazis, that's all that comes to mind, as they were the delegates before me and worked with him when he was active.

As one of the oldest natives of the region before being banjected, I recall the days when The Confederate Empire (TCE) refounded the region (I believe in 2004) after the "Delete on Sight" designation NS Moderation put on the original founder Hitlers Austria.

NS players, especially longtime ones, vary in their gameplay. TCE had been very active for several years; including having a WA (under the name of the real-life body which cannot be named) nation named R E Lee.

I am not as adept with NS archival records -- Perhaps someone like the old great NS archivist Ballotonia could provide us a list of native nations in order of longevity from an XML feed.

While the current delegate and others suggest that TCE is inactive, click on his nation linked above -- He checked in just 9 days ago. In allegience more to TCE than anyone or whatever NAZI EUROPE became -- I am going to do everything in my power to interrupt Laos Refugee's plan of refounding the region.

In discussion with some other banjected national leaders, initially I supported the Liberation Resolution idea -- but not now. Ultimately the founder should be the one who decides the fate of a region. Looking at Republicans for example, the Liberation resolution is very fitting, since it was founderless and the raiders had griefed long-time natives. But for an active founder region like NE such a designation undermines the spirit of why one would want such a Security Council action in the first place. Don't assume just because TCE isn't posting on the RMB doesn't mean he isn't active.

My current lament is I wish I had left the region after Jackie Clarkson departed following Oh My Days/Sound Systems proclamation of departure. Good Nazis remaining briefly as delegate was the next best thing -- then Laos Refugees came along. Unlike a number of banjected posters however, I wasn't particularly upset with Laos' rule -- actually his wry observations and fairly even-handedness earned him the support of many.

Given Laos Refugees recent probity however -- I wonder whether he might be Hitlers Austria come back from the dead, instead of my earlier (mistaken) assumption of him acting out of a direct instruction from The Confederate Empire.

[Anime Daisuki]

Ah, and before anyone brings it up, the troll face, the cat flag, the Jewish quotes, all of it was to increase support from regions who foolishly thought I was doing this just for shits and giggles. If you get a region like TTI on your side because they think your against National Socialism, you can easily get away with anything. Sure, it was wrong, but I did what was necessary. I have since then, changed the region back, so I can make it clear I am not hiding behind any false colors.

To be honest, that's insulting to regions like TTI, as you're implying that they allow those who are against National Socialism "easily get away with anything." Than again, who am I to say.

Oh hmm wait, is 'TTI' referring to 10KI?

[Tanzoria]

I am against this. Laos Refugees did the right thing and I hope he lets this region die

[St George of England]

I am against this. Laos Refugees did the right thing and I hope he lets this region die

He's not going to. Please, read this thread. He's going to refound it, probably with himself as founder and delegate.

[Tanzoria]

I am against this. Laos Refugees did the right thing and I hope he lets this region die

He's not going to. Please, read this thread. He's going to refound it, probably with himself as founder and delegate.

He still did the right thing

[St George of England]

He's not going to. Please, read this thread. He's going to refound it, probably with himself as founder and delegate.

He still did the right thing

In. Your. Opinion.

[Tanzoria]

He still did the right thing

In. Your. Opinion.

How much trouble has NE caused the world over the years? It deserves to be humiliated and destroyed.

[Globexanter]

In. Your. Opinion.

How much trouble has NE caused the world over the years? It deserves to be humiliated and destroyed.

It has already been humiliated

[St George of England]

In. Your. Opinion.

How much trouble has NE caused the world over the years? It deserves to be humiliated and destroyed.

NE hasn't caused the Imperial English Empire any trouble, and we see no reason for an entire region to be destroyed just because you dislike their name, or their assumed politics.

It's in the past, dwi.

[Tanzoria]

How much trouble has NE caused the world over the years? It deserves to be humiliated and destroyed.

NE hasn't caused the Imperial English Empire any trouble, and we see no reason for an entire region to be destroyed just because you dislike their name, or their assumed politics.

It's in the past, dwi.

I dont dislike them merely because of their name. It is because they have raided sevreal regions suach as Nazi Rehab,the alliance of Bolshevik states,anarchy and socialist utopia.

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Actually a liberation would be just what NE needs- as long as the Liberation is never repealed, then our would be masterrace delusionists would never be able to retreat back to the region and hide behind a password - yeah so they'd all retreat to GGR but that will be the next candidate anyway!

Might even join the WA to support this!