Copilot Allegedly Hijacks FlyDubai Flight to Israel

[Australian rePublic]

https://www.smh.com.au/world/australian ... 61261.html
https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/midd ... 611vb.html
https://www.thetimes.com/world/middle-e ... -fdmp2rpmm

I'm surprised that this hasn't been made into a thread already .

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A FlyDubai flight from Dubai to Tel Aviv had to diverted to Saudi Arabia after the copilot allegedly stabbed and injured the pilot as part of an alleged terrorist attack. The pilot, despite being stabbed and seriously injured, opened the cockpit door, allowing crew and passengers to rush in. The alleged attempt was thawed by a few passengers who detained the copilot, and a passenger who happened to be a pilot. Due to these heroes, fortunately no body was killed, but some people, including the pilot, an Indian national, were injured. It is believed that the alleged terrorist planned to crash the plane and kill everyone on board

Israeli authorities have labeled the alleged incident as terrorist attack, as a result of normalisation of relations between Israel and the UAE in 2020.

My thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones. I could imagine that this was scary and horrifying

I am now starting to wonder, will this lead to plane crews being forced to now undergo stricter airport security? The same level as passengers? I am genuinely interested in what the aftermath of this incident will be

FlyDubai has reportedly suspended all flights to Israel as a result of this incident

EDIT:
So what I have learnt from this thread is that apparently, Jihadis can do no wrong

[UNITYUNITYUNITY]

If only there were anything that could be done to stop people from being radicalized by Israel's genocide of Palestinians and apartheid and settler colonialism and foreign lobbying and digital propaganda apparatus and aggression towards its neighbors and development of sophisticated malware and possession of nuclear weapons and attempts to smear its victims as baby-broiling Nazis and myriad other lies concocted to justify its crimes. But obviously, there's nothing whatsoever that can be done about that. So yes, you're right, I guess the solution is to make every pilot swear fealty to Israel before they can be allowed to fly there. Actually, just to be safe, maybe they should be required to do that before they can fly anywhere. And all air passengers should too. To be even safer, maybe we should just cut out the air travel component and make the Israel loyalty pledge into a signed affidavit attached to every country's tax forms, so that way everyone is covered.

[IZERN]

I hope that copilot gets punished as harshly as possible.

[Stellar Colonies]

Always a relief to hear about a passenger plane full of people being fortunate enough to not die.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Bloody hell, thankfully he was stopped before he could do anything serious. I hope the injured recover okay.

[The Galactic Supremacy]

It was Ben Gvir, by the way, who first said this was a terrorist attack, before the co-pilot was ever even interrogated, and he still hasn't been. This has been politicised to no end.

Also, this hasn't been put into perspective. If you managed to piss off an Omani, of all Middle Easterners, then you should know, you fucked up.

[Meraud]

I'm just glad a large percentage of the world knows this story is fantasy and was a false flag that didn't go according to plan.

[Stellar Colonies]

Netanyahu and Modi hail Indian flydubai pilot as hero (Reuters)

Oct 1 (Reuters) - The leaders of Israel and India hailed Indian pilot Smit Machchhar as a hero for saving passengers after he was stabbed by ​his colleague in an alleged attempt to crash a flydubai plane on Wednesday.

Passengers on ‌the flight reached Israel safely on Wednesday after customers and crew foiled the co-pilot's attempt to crash the aircraft, Israeli officials said. The struggle began when he stabbed the pilot and sent the jet plunging nearly 14,000 feet (4,267 m) in ​less than 30 seconds.

Machchhar was covered with blood on the floor when he managed to ​click the release to open the cockpit door, a spokesperson for Israeli Prime ⁠Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Reuters. That allowed passengers and crew to overpower the co-pilot and enable ​a second pair of flydubai pilots who were on board to land the jet in Tabuk, Saudi ​Arabia.

"He saved the lives of 174 people, including Israeli citizens and other nationals," Netanyahu said in a post on X. "All passengers are out of harm's way," he had earlier said in a video statement released by his office.

In a ​post on X early on Thursday, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi lauded Machchhar, calling him a "hero".

"In ​the face of the gravest danger and despite being seriously injured, he showed immense courage and an unwavering resolve ‌to protect ⁠the lives of others. His valour helped save hundreds of lives and avert a great tragedy," Modi said.

Indian authorities in Saudi Arabia said Machchhar is receiving necessary medical attention in a hospital in the northwestern city of Tabuk and they are in touch with his family and Saudi authorities to extend ​all possible help.

He is ​reported to be stable, ⁠the Indian embassy in Saudi Arabia said in a post on X.

Machchhar, who hails from India's financial capital Mumbai, underwent surgery after the incident, Indian ​newspaper the Hindustan Times reported.

According to his LinkedIn profile, Machchhar worked with ​India's SpiceJet (SPJT.BO) airline ⁠for over 11 years before joining flydubai.

The cause of the altercation between the pilots was not clear. Flydubai said in a statement that the underlying reasons for the event remained unknown and warned against "premature speculation." ⁠It also suspended ​flights to and from Israel amid an investigation.

Netanyahu described the ​event as "a highly severe security incident", and said Saudi authorities would interrogate the co-pilot of flydubai FZ1073, which had been en ​route from the United Arab Emirates to Israel.

[Australian rePublic]

If only there were anything that could be done to stop people from being radicalized by Israel's genocide of Palestinians and apartheid and settler colonialism and foreign lobbying and digital propaganda apparatus and aggression towards its neighbors and development of sophisticated malware and possession of nuclear weapons and attempts to smear its victims as baby-broiling Nazis and myriad other lies concocted to justify its crimes. But obviously, there's nothing whatsoever that can be done about that. So yes, you're right, I guess the solution is to make every pilot swear fealty to Israel before they can be allowed to fly there. Actually, just to be safe, maybe they should be required to do that before they can fly anywhere. And all air passengers should too. To be even safer, maybe we should just cut out the air travel component and make the Israel loyalty pledge into a signed affidavit attached to every country's tax forms, so that way everyone is covered.

Because two wrongs make a right **sigh**.
Let's just kill a bunch of random civilians because Israel's government did a naughty.
I don't even know where to begin with this

[Australian rePublic]

If only there were anything that could be done to stop people from being radicalized by Israel's genocide of Palestinians and apartheid and settler colonialism and foreign lobbying and digital propaganda apparatus and aggression towards its neighbors and development of sophisticated malware and possession of nuclear weapons and attempts to smear its victims as baby-broiling Nazis and myriad other lies concocted to justify its crimes. But obviously, there's nothing whatsoever that can be done about that. So yes, you're right, I guess the solution is to make every pilot swear fealty to Israel before they can be allowed to fly there. Actually, just to be safe, maybe they should be required to do that before they can fly anywhere. And all air passengers should too. To be even safer, maybe we should just cut out the air travel component and make the Israel loyalty pledge into a signed affidavit attached to every country's tax forms, so that way everyone is covered.

Because two wrongs make a right **sigh**.
Let's just kill a bunch of random civilians because Israel's government did a naughty.
I don't even know where to begin with this
But you know what? You've inspired me! China is a nuclear weapons state with aspirations of world domination who is actively committing genocide against Muslims. So by your fucked up logic, it would justify me hijacking a random civilian plane headed to Beijing, and killing everyone on board. This YOU logic, not mine. Seriously, what the fuck, dude?

Also, do you really want to try to make the UAE look like the good guys when it comes to human rights? Because if you think that Dubai is the good guy when it comes to human rights, boy do I have some news for you... If this guy ACTUALLY cared about human rights, he wouldn't be working for Dubai

I'm just glad a large percentage of the world knows this story is fantasy and was a false flag that didn't go according to plan.

I thought thought it was impossible to have a worse take than UnityUnityUnity in this discussion, but boy was I wrong...

It was Ben Gvir, by the way, who first said this was a terrorist attack, before the co-pilot was ever even interrogated, and he still hasn't been. This has been politicised to no end.

This is quite a reasonable take, which definately goes against the grain of the thread. And yea, good point. Perhaps we should allow for further investigations

Also, this hasn't been put into perspective. If you managed to piss off an Omani, of all Middle Easterners, then you should know, you fucked up.

Or, if guilty, he could just be a rogue nut job.

[Kasdados]

Wow, CoPilot, Dubai, and Israel mentioned in the same Thread title? What is this, the worst timeline? /j

In all seriousness: prosecute the copilot, full condolences to the victims and families, fortunate that all survived.

[The Galactic Supremacy]

Or, if guilty, he could just be a rogue nut job.

Guy stabbed another guy. Whatever it is, he's gotta pay.

[Kriegsreich of Iron]

News media is trying to bury the lede here. Looot of articles from big legacy media that are like "Plane crashes as Israelis tackle copilot" or "Plane grounded after altercation".

[The Galactic Supremacy]

Let's just kill a bunch of random civilians because Israel's government did a naughty.
I don't even know where to begin with this

"Did a naughty" in this context? Really? You don't stumble into carpet bombing Gaza.

[Australian rePublic]

Let's just kill a bunch of random civilians because Israel's government did a naughty.
I don't even know where to begin with this

"Did a naughty" in this context? Really? You don't stumble into carpet bombing Gaza.

1. Carpet bombing Gaza is a naughty, so by doing so, they did a naughty. Where is the issue here? Or do you just want to play word Onlympics? Because, seriously, I was on your side in this thread. Don't push it
2. Israel isn't exactly a bastion for human rights, but neither is the UAE. If this guy actually cared about human rights, to the point where he's willing to kill and die for them, then he wouldn't be working for Dubai, one of the 21st century's worst slave states

[New Faith]

Let's just kill a bunch of random civilians because Israel's government did a naughty.
I don't even know where to begin with this

I don't don't think somebody that describes genocide as "a naughty" gets to be judgmental of another user's takes.

Because, seriously, I was on your side in this thread. Don't push it

Jesus Christ holy cringe

[UNITYUNITYUNITY]

If only there were anything that could be done to stop people from being radicalized by Israel's genocide of Palestinians and apartheid and settler colonialism and foreign lobbying and digital propaganda apparatus and aggression towards its neighbors and development of sophisticated malware and possession of nuclear weapons and attempts to smear its victims as baby-broiling Nazis and myriad other lies concocted to justify its crimes. But obviously, there's nothing whatsoever that can be done about that. So yes, you're right, I guess the solution is to make every pilot swear fealty to Israel before they can be allowed to fly there. Actually, just to be safe, maybe they should be required to do that before they can fly anywhere. And all air passengers should too. To be even safer, maybe we should just cut out the air travel component and make the Israel loyalty pledge into a signed affidavit attached to every country's tax forms, so that way everyone is covered.

Because two wrongs make a right **sigh**.
Let's just kill a bunch of random civilians because Israel's government did a naughty.
I don't even know where to begin with this

Well, yes, it's clear you don't know where to begin, because you did so somewhere other than where my point is. All I'm saying is that you can't possibly hope to completely prevent terrorism as long as Israel (and America, for that matter) continue to commit crimes against humanity with impunity. People do not become terrorists because they are inherently evil; they become terrorists because they see some sort of injustice happening (and often are directly victimized by that injustice), determine that there is no way to stop that injustice through normative political action or nonviolent resistance, and find that the only people who are offering a counterweight to the party committing the injustice in their immediate environment are ideologues (or agent provocateurs) preaching adventurism or jihad or whatever. The fact that terrorists aren't some other species who are evil for no reason, that we can understand how terrorists come to be made, does not make terrorism justifiable (or effective): the point is simply that you can't expect to prevent terrorism without getting rid of the thing producing that terrorism, which in this case is the atrocities being committed in public view by the Israeli state.

[Stellar Colonies]

Going back to the thread topic of someone trying to crash a plane full of people, apparently there were false rumors circulated early on about the cause being a fight between a pair of Russian and Ukrainian pilots, and then another version about such a pair instead being the relief pilots, despite them not presently having clearly defined nationalities.

[Australian rePublic]

Because two wrongs make a right **sigh**.
Let's just kill a bunch of random civilians because Israel's government did a naughty.
I don't even know where to begin with this

Well, yes, it's clear you don't know where to begin, because you did so somewhere other than where my point is. All I'm saying is that you can't possibly hope to completely prevent terrorism as long as Israel (and America, for that matter) continue to commit crimes against humanity with impunity. People do not become terrorists because they are inherently evil; they become terrorists because they see some sort of injustice happening (and often are directly victimized by that injustice), determine that there is no way to stop that injustice through normative political action or nonviolent resistance, and find that the only people who are offering a counterweight to the party committing the injustice in their immediate environment are ideologues (or agent provocateurs) preaching adventurism or jihad or whatever. The fact that terrorists aren't some other species who are evil for no reason, that we can understand how terrorists come to be made, does not make terrorism justifiable (or effective): the point is simply that you can't expect to prevent terrorism without getting rid of the thing producing that terrorism, which in this case is the atrocities being committed in public view by the Israeli state.

Fair enough
1. People can be radicialised without Israel forcing them to be. Radical Islamism has existed long before any Western/Israeli intervention
2. Your argument would hold water if he wasn't working for Dubai. No one who seriously cares about human rights would be working for a slave state. His motivation obviously wasn't human rights. People who are willing to kill and die for human rights don't voluntarily work for slave states. It's contrary to their goal.

[Cawn]

Because two wrongs make a right **sigh**.
Let's just kill a bunch of random civilians because Israel's government did a naughty.
I don't even know where to begin with this

Well, yes, it's clear you don't know where to begin, because you did so somewhere other than where my point is. All I'm saying is that you can't possibly hope to completely prevent terrorism as long as Israel (and America, for that matter) continue to commit crimes against humanity with impunity. People do not become terrorists because they are inherently evil; they become terrorists because they see some sort of injustice happening (and often are directly victimized by that injustice), determine that there is no way to stop that injustice through normative political action or nonviolent resistance, and find that the only people who are offering a counterweight to the party committing the injustice in their immediate environment are ideologues (or agent provocateurs) preaching adventurism or jihad or whatever. The fact that terrorists aren't some other species who are evil for no reason, that we can understand how terrorists come to be made, does not make terrorism justifiable (or effective): the point is simply that you can't expect to prevent terrorism without getting rid of the thing producing that terrorism, which in this case is the atrocities being committed in public view by the Israeli state.

Completely normal, expected and appropriate

You have to consider the short-term as well believe it or not.

[Stellar Colonies]

Who Is the Indian Pilot Being Hailed as a Hero? (The New York Times)
Capt. Smit Machchhar suffered stab wounds while fending off an attack from his co-pilot, saving the lives of around 170 people on board, officials said.

Capt. Smit Machchhar, the Indian pilot hailed for averting a catastrophe on a FlyDubai flight, had faced a few challenges in the cockpit before. Monsoon rains. Fast-changing wind speeds. And the biggest challenge of all, he recalled on a podcast last year: preparing to land after a passenger went into labor on board.

“There was a sense of urgency,” he said. “In my head, I had zero margin of error.”

None compared to the bloody midair horror he found himself in on Wednesday, when witnesses and officials say a fellow pilot stabbed him in the cockpit of a Dubai to Tel Aviv flight on Wednesday.

Mr. Machchhar, bleeding, managed to open the cockpit door, allowing passengers and crew to overpower the assailant, while two others on board who had flying experience landed the plane in Saudi Arabia.

One passenger said he heard bloodcurdling screams before Mr. Machchhar fell out of the cockpit.

Israeli officials said his co-pilot had apparently tried to crash the plane, with 170 passengers on board. Neither the authorities in the United Arab Emirates, where the flight originated, nor in Saudi Arabia, where the aircraft touched down, have commented on what happened. The Emirati Attorney General’s office on Thursday announced an investigation.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India hailed the captain as a “hero” whose “valor helped save hundreds of lives and avert a great tragedy.”

“In the face of the gravest danger and despite being seriously injured, he showed immense courage and an unwavering resolve to protect the lives of others,” Mr. Modi said on X.

Mr. Machchhar has been airlifted to Abu Dhabi, the Emirati capital, according to two officials familiar with the matter. The Indian Embassy in the Emirates said on social media that the ambassador had visited Mr. Machchhar and his family at the hospital. “Captain Machchhar is in good health and recovering well,” it said.

As Indians rallied around him on Thursday, a portrait emerged of a pilot who found his calling somewhat accidentally, only to end up flying commercial planes for 13 years and later training aspiring pilots at an aviation school.

He grew up in a middle-class suburb of Mumbai, called Ghatkopar, not far from the city’s international airport. Journalists crowded on Thursday near his childhood home in an ordinary neighborhood, its streets lined with auto rickshaws and vegetable carts. A news conference planned with the pilot’s uncle was canceled and a local politician, Parag Shah, said his parents had flown to Dubai in the morning.

Mr. Machchhar attended a neighborhood school, and was set to join the family textiles business. His destiny changed when he attended a seminar on aviation.

“That is where the aviation bug bit me,” he said on the podcast, saying that flying had not been a childhood dream.

He said his mother was nervous. I

“You didn’t hear a lot of people becoming pilots, no one had any idea how to do it,” he said. “So first of all, that was something that scared my mom — and of course, the flying bit.”

He enrolled in an 18-month program at a New Zealand-based aviation training school, called Mainland. Its director, Philip Kean, described the program as combining academic rigor and practical training.

“You’ve got to study. You’ve got to fly the plane,” Mr. Kean said. “He was a good student — a good average student. He did his job. He got his commercial license, which he had come here for.”

He began as a first officer, rose to the rank of captain, and according to Dhaval Patel, who knew him from school, soon became a trainer of other pilots at Spice Jet, a private Indian airline that has since folded.

He became a mentor to Mr. Patel, who also worked as a pilot. He was passionate about training other pilots. “He would also ensure that the pilot is confident enough to execute the job well,” said Mr. Patel, who now works in his family’s diamonds business.

“Everything is behind you and you should look ahead,” Mr. Patel recalled him saying many years ago, “because when you are flying, you always look ahead.”

Mr. Machchhar trains aspiring pilots as part of a private aviation school, called Fly By Aviation.

“You should be ready to multitask,” he says in a video directed at aspiring pilots on the school’s Facebook page.

Although the captain does not appear to have much of a public presence on social media, glimpses of his personality and his outlook could be gleaned from interviews. Some of them are striking to read in the aftermath of the FlyDubai incident.

In the hourlong podcast, posted last year, Mr. Machchhar said he avoided “deep discussions” with his colleagues in the cockpit, so as not to be distracted, and said pilots should get plenty of rest so they can perform under challenging situations.

“You have to perform. There’s no alternative,” he said.

Asked to describe his feelings about being a pilot in one word, he replied, “blessed.”

[Kriegsreich of Iron]

I'm just glad a large percentage of the world knows this story is fantasy and was a false flag that didn't go according to plan.

"da jooooze made up this attack on their homeland for...reasons, I guess?"

[San Lumen]

I'm just glad a large percentage of the world knows this story is fantasy and was a false flag that didn't go according to plan.

where did you come up with this utter nonsense?

[Too Opressive]

If only there were anything that could be done to stop people from being radicalized by Israel's genocide of Palestinians and apartheid and settler colonialism and foreign lobbying and digital propaganda apparatus and aggression towards its neighbors and development of sophisticated malware and possession of nuclear weapons and attempts to smear its victims as baby-broiling Nazis and myriad other lies concocted to justify its crimes. But obviously, there's nothing whatsoever that can be done about that. So yes, you're right, I guess the solution is to make every pilot swear fealty to Israel before they can be allowed to fly there. Actually, just to be safe, maybe they should be required to do that before they can fly anywhere. And all air passengers should too. To be even safer, maybe we should just cut out the air travel component and make the Israel loyalty pledge into a signed affidavit attached to every country's tax forms, so that way everyone is covered.

Reading this made me have a stroke

[Too Opressive]

I'm just glad a large percentage of the world knows this story is fantasy and was a false flag that didn't go according to plan.

Bruh. This shit isn't a false flag, it was terrorism. Although it will probably turn into a meme on Insta in a few days