School Sucks.....Sometimes

[Jesus Strippers]

Kid, I've been out of high school for only a year and a half now, and I already miss it. The real world sucks. I'm sorry if I "crush your dreams" or anything, but it's not fun. You have responsibilities. You can't just ignore everything and then go home to play video games or hang out with your friends. You actually have to do things, and there's no helpful safety net to catch you. If you fail in real life, you fail for real. In high school, there's no real consequence. You can do whatever you like because no one cares. You don't have that freedom when you get out into the real world. I just hope you learn to appreciate that before it's too late, before you're out of school and realize that you miss it, too.

Even in high school ignoring everything and just playing around has consequences, even if they aren't immediately apparent. I spent easily at least 5 hours a night on homework and studying, starting in middle school. My reward for that didn't come until after I graduated high school, when suddenly colleges wanted to pay me more than $12,000 a year to go to their school (a school where I pay in-state tuition and the cost of living off campus is relatively low). The penalty for slacking off clearly would have been a significant amount of money.
I'd say you have much more freedom out in the real world... not having to ask permission whenever you leave the house, being able to control your own diet by shopping and cooking for yourself, being able to budget for yourself and save as much money as possible, not having your internet at home controlled, at 17, to the point where even a Wikipedia article on dugongs is banned, not having an enforced 8 pm bedtime...not having to just tolerate it when random people come up to you and harass you, as was at least daily in high school. The freedom is worth the responsibility.

Maybe my parents were just at an extreme end of overprotective. Still, I honestly can't say I miss high school. I greatly enjoyed the schooling itself, and, having an 11 am - 9:30 pm day in college, I can't say that the high school day is overly long. But everything accompanying high school, I really can't miss.

would your last name happen to be "Stalin?"

[Linux and the X]

Even in high school ignoring everything and just playing around has consequences, even if they aren't immediately apparent. I spent easily at least 5 hours a night on homework and studying, starting in middle school. My reward for that didn't come until after I graduated high school, when suddenly colleges wanted to pay me more than $12,000 a year to go to their school (a school where I pay in-state tuition and the cost of living off campus is relatively low). The penalty for slacking off clearly would have been a significant amount of money.

Despite goofing off in high school, I still am managing to get more than enough money to pay for classes.

[Sebytania]

Even in high school ignoring everything and just playing around has consequences, even if they aren't immediately apparent. I spent easily at least 5 hours a night on homework and studying, starting in middle school. My reward for that didn't come until after I graduated high school, when suddenly colleges wanted to pay me more than $12,000 a year to go to their school (a school where I pay in-state tuition and the cost of living off campus is relatively low). The penalty for slacking off clearly would have been a significant amount of money.

I didn't do shit in high school and then a massive scholarship hit me in the face just before graduation. I believe that if I hadn't slacked so much my chances would have been worse, as I would have concentrated on the subjects, not just ace the ones I did well in.

Maybe my parents were just at an extreme end of overprotective.

According to what you wrote above, yeah, you could say that. I propably wouldn't have slacked as much in high school if I hadn't had the chance to spend the time boozing.

I greatly enjoyed the schooling itself, and, having an 11 am - 9:30 pm day in college, I can't say that the high school day is overly long.

Yep, the days are longer, but at least I have a lot more motivation in university. I can study subject(s) that actually interest me, not just what someone high above decided is useful or should be known. Don't really know much about college though, we don't really have anything like it here.

[Chandelier]

Even in high school ignoring everything and just playing around has consequences, even if they aren't immediately apparent. I spent easily at least 5 hours a night on homework and studying, starting in middle school. My reward for that didn't come until after I graduated high school, when suddenly colleges wanted to pay me more than $12,000 a year to go to their school (a school where I pay in-state tuition and the cost of living off campus is relatively low). The penalty for slacking off clearly would have been a significant amount of money.

I didn't do shit in high school and then a massive scholarship hit me in the face just before graduation. I believe that if I hadn't slacked so much my chances would have been worse, as I would have concentrated on the subjects, not just ace the ones I did well in.

Maybe my parents were just at an extreme end of overprotective.

According to what you wrote above, yeah, you could say that. I propably wouldn't have slacked as much in high school if I hadn't had the chance to spend the time boozing.

I greatly enjoyed the schooling itself, and, having an 11 am - 9:30 pm day in college, I can't say that the high school day is overly long.

Yep, the days are longer, but at least I have a lot more motivation in university. I can study subject(s) that actually interest me, not just what someone high above decided is useful or should be known. Don't really know much about college though, we don't really have anything like it here.

My school is a university, we just call it college. And I just happen to find most academic subjects interesting and cut out any non-academic classes from my schedule starting in 11th grade. The classes I hated having to take were PE classes. First and only PE class I've actually enjoyed was a self defense class I took freshman year of college. Other than that, college is great since I can take a schedule primarily full of chemistry and math classes and then throw in an elective for something unrelated that I also find interesting, like Classical Mythology or Roman Civilization. My main problem with motivation in starting college was starting out in chemical engineering and finding out that it was both boring and extremely difficult for me, then realizing chemistry was much better for me.

The bright side of having overprotective parents is that they bought me a (slightly used) car so that I'd be able to drive down and visit them still. Which I've managed to cut down to once a month from the nearly every weekend they originally wanted.

[Georgism]

Once you start enjoying that shit, is when you know you have problems (stockholm syndrome).

I enjoy it because I enjoy learning in general.

I also enjoy the company.

[Professional Leaders]

I didn't do shit in high school and then a massive scholarship hit me in the face just before graduation. I believe that if I hadn't slacked so much my chances would have been worse, as I would have concentrated on the subjects, not just ace the ones I did well in.



According to what you wrote above, yeah, you could say that. I propably wouldn't have slacked as much in high school if I hadn't had the chance to spend the time boozing.



Yep, the days are longer, but at least I have a lot more motivation in university. I can study subject(s) that actually interest me, not just what someone high above decided is useful or should be known. Don't really know much about college though, we don't really have anything like it here.

My school is a university, we just call it college. And I just happen to find most academic subjects interesting and cut out any non-academic classes from my schedule starting in 11th grade. The classes I hated having to take were PE classes. First and only PE class I've actually enjoyed was a self defense class I took freshman year of college. Other than that, college is great since I can take a schedule primarily full of chemistry and math classes and then throw in an elective for something unrelated that I also find interesting, like Classical Mythology or Roman Civilization. My main problem with motivation in starting college was starting out in chemical engineering and finding out that it was both boring and extremely difficult for me, then realizing chemistry was much better for me.

The bright side of having overprotective parents is that they bought me a (slightly used) car so that I'd be able to drive down and visit them still. Which I've managed to cut down to once a month from the nearly every weekend they originally wanted.

NERD!

[Professional Leaders]

Once you start enjoying that shit, is when you know you have problems (stockholm syndrome).

I enjoy it because I enjoy learning in general.

I also enjoy the company.

learning sucks when the teachers dont teach

[Georgism]

learning sucks when the teachers dont teach

What do they do then?

Because I'm sure your OP said that they do teach, just not what you want them to teach.

[Horsefish]

learning sucks when the teachers dont teach

What do they do then?

Because I'm sure your OP said that they do teach, just not what you want them to teach.

Maybe he's on about how the shitty teachers just make you copy stuff down from a book. Cause thats not good, and if your whole time in school was spent like that I can see why you'd hate it.

[Embrihated Koalas]

Just saw this thread from the angle of my eye, and I'd like to inform that both my parents are both teachers at two different schools, you think you got it bad mate, well try keep order of a whole class full of snotnosed know it all punks, fuck you guys thinking you got it bad at least you GOT schools to go to whereas in other countries no such things exists, or aren't even allowed to exist, you think a teachers job ends when the bell rings? hah it's just beginning, having to go through all you're crappy made homework and still have to explain to you're parents why you gotta F on your last essay, school meetings, rescue drills in case one of you little shitfucks thinks it's funny to start a fire in school. Sure I thought school sucked to I hated it, but try to figure if you didn't had school, you'd still be counting on your fingers, unable to read, and by the age of 22 you're the father/ mother of 8 kids because you're to freaking dumb to know how to have safe sex

[Georgism]

Maybe he's on about how the shitty teachers just make you copy stuff down from a book. Cause thats not good, and if your whole time in school was spent like that I can see why you'd hate it.

Copying stuff helps you remember it *shrugs*.

Not the best teaching method I don't think but I wouldn't complain too much about getting it free at the expense of the taxpayer

[Horsefish]

Maybe he's on about how the shitty teachers just make you copy stuff down from a book. Cause thats not good, and if your whole time in school was spent like that I can see why you'd hate it.

Copying stuff helps you remember it *shrugs*.

Not the best teaching method I don't think but I wouldn't complain too much about getting it free at the expense of the taxpayer

Yea, but you know when you got a supply who amde you sit there in silence and copy the pages from the book iwthout explaining or expanding on anything?

I personally have no problem with school (hence why I stayed on ) , just some teachers.

[New York - New Jersey]

Truth be told most of my knowledge comes from my own independent study not all my years in school and college, but I had a desire to learn and still do. Not everyone does so some need to be forced to go to school and learn that which they have no interest in and probably will not help them later in life. I mean my current job's virtually require nothing I learned in school, I had to have specialized training for them but if all goes well the job's I recently applied to would utilize what I learned in college and high school. You just have to deal with it, at least if you go to college you have some choice in what you learn and in my experience the popularity contest BS went out the window. Hell that just kind of happens with age anyway, I mean if I were still in high school I would never be dating my girlfriend (let alone talk to her) due to social status BS (plus shes 5 years older then me) but now that doesn't matter all that matters is we care about each other.

[Georgism]

Yea, but you know when you got a supply who amde you sit there in silence and copy the pages from the book iwthout explaining or expanding on anything?

Well if they were any good they wouldn't be supply teachers

But if it bothers people that much they can do their own research at home. The point is that they've got the information in their heads and can regurgitate it in exams so that they can get a job when they're older. Some people see this as a problem, but meh. That's the priority. Do your own extra reading if you want explaining...

Although we don't get supply teachers anymore now I'm in 6th form.

[New York - New Jersey]

Well if they were any good they wouldn't be supply teachers

What is a supply teacher for those of us not familiar with the term? Are they like a substitute teacher, someone who fills in when the regular teacher is absent? Thats what we call them.

[Georgism]

Well if they were any good they wouldn't be supply teachers

What is a supply teacher for those of us not familiar with the term? Are they like a substitute teacher, someone who fills in when the regular teacher is absent? Thats what we call them.

Aye basically.

[New York - New Jersey]

What is a supply teacher for those of us not familiar with the term? Are they like a substitute teacher, someone who fills in when the regular teacher is absent? Thats what we call them.

Aye basically.

I just wiki'd it , thanks though

[Horsefish]

Yea, but you know when you got a supply who amde you sit there in silence and copy the pages from the book iwthout explaining or expanding on anything?

Well if they were any good they wouldn't be supply teachers

But if it bothers people that much they can do their own research at home. The point is that they've got the information in their heads and can regurgitate it in exams so that they can get a job when they're older. Some people see this as a problem, but meh. That's the priority. Do your own extra reading if you want explaining...

Although we don't get supply teachers anymore now I'm in 6th form.

Yea I know, I'm in tertiary too.
It's more when someone asks them to explain and they don't that leads to frustration. I can also see how this could lead to people becoming disfranchised and apathetic towards school.

[Sapphista]

Rule 1: Life is not fair...get used to it.
Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.
Rule 3: You will NOT make 40 thousand dollars a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone, until you earn both.
Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss. He doesn't have tenure.
Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your grandparents had a different word for burger flipping-they called it opportunity.
Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.
Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you are. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parents' generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.
Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers but life has not. In some schools they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. You have to do that on your own time.
Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.
Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.


So yeah, I can't think of a better way to respond to the OP than this quote that allegedly came from Bill Gates. I personally loved high school. Awesome teachers, friends, shitty food, running jokes, football games... Enjoy it while you can. At least in high school you know you belong somewhere. When you leave, it's your responsibility to not become a homeless person in the street. When you're out of high school and no one's keeping tabs on you, you could walk into the city and disappear. At least in school you have an identity. You have something you can consider the "norm." And at what price? Some monotonous school work?

And I honestly don't see home-schooling as a good thing. Besides questioning the experience of the parent(s), how do you socialize a young person without school? School isn't here just for the books. I've met a few people that are home-schooled. They're like shy little zombies. And no, I'm not speaking for all home-schooled students.

[Sapphista]

All you people who have been complaining about school should try going to school in a small town in the south (southern US) like me. Personal connections and etc. mean I pretty much do what I want. There is definitely an aristocracy at my school and being part of it is great. Also being a good student gets you a lot of perks too. I'm known to most of the administrators and can wander the halls without any worry of getting in trouble.

I definitely know the feeling. Graduating class of 150 in rural Louisiana meant I knew everyone on a first name basis. There really wasn't much of a clique system, so I had the opposite of the "Mean Girls" experience. I knew all the teachers pretty well. One used to give me rides to school and football games if my truck was acting up. But yeah, small schools are definitely better than larger ones

[Idealismania]

I'm going to college to be a teacher right now, and I have learned that about 60-80% of everything taught in school (both high school and college) is all bullshit that you will never really need to know in the real world. It is frustrating having to memorize facts and know things I realize I will never need to know for my career. Sure it's nice to know stuff; I love learning and I would like to know everything I can, but when school makes us memorize a bunch of stuff we don't need, then it becomes more of an obsticle. But at the same time they never teach us anything important. They should teach us how to get along with other people and how to do basic stuff like change a tire. Some of us were never taught anything like that from our parents and it would be nice to know, especially if we have to spend the first 22 years of our lives in school anyways.

[New York - New Jersey]

I'm going to college to be a teacher right now, and I have learned that about 60-80% of everything taught in school (both high school and college) is all bullshit that you will never really need to know in the real world. It is frustrating having to memorize facts and know things I realize I will never need to know for my career. Sure it's nice to know stuff; I love learning and I would like to know everything I can, but when school makes us memorize a bunch of stuff we don't need, then it becomes more of an obsticle. But at the same time they never teach us anything important. They should teach us how to get along with other people and how to do basic stuff like change a tire. Some of us were never taught anything like that from our parents and it would be nice to know, especially if we have to spend the first 22 years of our lives in school anyways.

Yes agreed and maybe they could have taught math we would have used in school, like how to balance your bank account, investments or taught us how to fill out and calculate the forms to pay taxes. A little local geography might help people too since I'm always stuck behind someone who doesn't know where they are going, lol.

[Professional Leaders]

learning sucks when the teachers dont teach

What do they do then?

Because I'm sure your OP said that they do teach, just not what you want them to teach.

sit and talk about irrelevant subjects

[Professional Leaders]

What do they do then?

Because I'm sure your OP said that they do teach, just not what you want them to teach.

Maybe he's on about how the shitty teachers just make you copy stuff down from a book. Cause thats not good, and if your whole time in school was spent like that I can see why you'd hate it.

thats exactly what they do

[Arumdaum]

I thought school was great, I made tons of friends, got a girlfriend, created many memories, an active social life and got all these girls to like me. Then I moved. To another country. And I can't speak the language they speak here. Fuck. Anyways the schools where I live suck, there's uniforms, forced haircuts, beatings, can't dye or do anything to your hair, can't wear accessories, can only wear certain kinds of shoes, go to school on Saturdays, and that stuff. Otherwise they lead up to points which end up to you getting expelled. Anyways the schools in Cali are pretty good, but I heard they're getting shittier.