The centrist thread

[Nilokeras]

‘Centrism’ isn’t an ideology. It’s a marketing profile, cooked up by political consultancies as their attempt at calculating a message that is palatable with the largest possible group of constituents and can thereby get their clients into power.

Since marketing itself is a Russian nesting doll of scams and confidence tricks aimed at corporations and, in this case, politicians, it of course fails routinely and completely at actually capturing what people believe. It’s a political-ideological ‘Morbius’ movie.

The people that identify with it also pretty uniformly don’t actually believe in anything other than a sort of grinning Terminator skull of naked ‘technocracy’, where they in that consultancy-think tank-wonk industrial complex get to keep their party going for themselves indefinitely, without having the messy business of people’s actual politics or lived experiences getting in the way.

[Uiiop]

‘Centrism’ isn’t an ideology. It’s a marketing profile, cooked up by political consultancies as their attempt at calculating a message that is palatable with the largest possible group of constituents and can thereby get their clients into power.

Since marketing itself is a Russian nesting doll of scams and confidence tricks aimed at corporations and, in this case, politicians, it of course fails routinely and completely at actually capturing what people believe. It’s a political-ideological ‘Morbius’ movie.

The people that identify with it also pretty uniformly don’t actually believe in anything other than a sort of grinning Terminator skull of naked ‘technocracy’, where they in that consultancy-think tank-wonk industrial complex get to keep their party going for themselves indefinitely, without having the messy business of people’s actual politics or lived experiences getting in the way.

This is exactly why these people can handle the ostensible contradiction of being "Small c-conservative for the status quo" and writing the checks for e/acc.

[USHALLNOTPASS]

The sorta shit that will not hold

[Lipizia]

Why not? For example, I thought to be extremely leftist pastly, but after the political tests I done, and reflecting on the tipical values of left and right, I noticed that I'm actually of center-left.

Political tests aren't always accurate.

Yes, but they are a thing as 5 concordant, and they aren't the only reason, if you read my whole post.

[Lipizia]

The people that identify with it also pretty uniformly don’t actually believe in anything other than a sort of grinning Terminator skull of naked ‘technocracy’, where they in that consultancy-think tank-wonk industrial complex get to keep their party going for themselves indefinitely, without having the messy business of people’s actual politics or lived experiences getting in the way.

This is the governement of Italy from 1950s until ~1992.

[Inkraiya]

wellllll looks like im "centrist" (idc about political ideologies i just wanna make my own country)

[Potato Gun]

Honestly on social matters I find myself in the center, in most other matters however, not really.

[PUTAT]

Yes, but they are a thing as 5 concordant, and they aren't the only reason, if you read my whole post.

One of the faults of those tests lie in questions about supporting specific parties or politicians.

[Lipizia]

Yes, but they are a thing as 5 concordant, and they aren't the only reason, if you read my whole post.

One of the faults of those tests lie in questions about supporting specific parties or politicians.

In none of the tests I done there was any question on political parties.
Anyway, I admin that parties and politici and can be confusione for make and idea of the political ideology.

[Nu Elysium]

i’m applying centrist praxis by not adding anything of interest or value to this thread

[Potato Gun]

i’m applying centrist praxis by not adding anything of interest or value to this thread

Based

[Ineva]

Centrism's complete deference to more extreme ideologies is a continuous exercise in self-defeat. To constantly refer to relatively more extreme ideologies to determine the fundamentals of its own only validates said extreme ideologies.

[Chess Socialism]

Centrism is just taking the moderate position on every issue, right?

[Lipizia]

Centrism is just taking the moderate position on every issue, right?

No, that is only a type.
Read my first post

[PUTAT]

In none of the tests I done there was any question on political parties.
Anyway, I admin that parties and politici and can be confusione for make and idea of the political ideology.

Yeah. I dislike political parties as those are only a front for crooks to gather and do corruption.

[Lipizia]

Centrism's complete deference to more extreme ideologies is a continuous exercise in self-defeat. To constantly refer to relatively more extreme ideologies to determine the fundamentals of its own only validates said extreme ideologies.

Beh, centrism not always is against the most extreme ideologies, also it is common. Type 4 for example wouldn't be against, at least not a lot.

[Ineva]

Centrism's complete deference to more extreme ideologies is a continuous exercise in self-defeat. To constantly refer to relatively more extreme ideologies to determine the fundamentals of its own only validates said extreme ideologies.

Beh, centrism not always is against the most extreme ideologies, also it is common. Type 4 for example wouldn't be against, at least not a lot.

I'd personally struggle to call a person with a roughly equal amount of extreme views from the left and right a centrist.

[Lipizia]

Beh, centrism not always is against the most extreme ideologies, also it is common. Type 4 for example wouldn't be against, at least not a lot.

I'd personally struggle to call a person with a roughly equal amount of extreme views from the left and right a centrist.

It's perfectly normal. My types are only a thing made for my opinion, not a thing consolidated worldwide or something.
Everyone has his/her opinions indeed.

[The Lazarene Republic]

I don't know whether I'm for or against the existence of this thread

I think the problem is that centrist politicians just represent a compromise between two unpopular political groupings. People who don't identify with either are often negatively polarized against both (or at least many of the aspects that centrists tend to adopt from them), and partisans will naturally reject any compromise with their sworn enemies, so centrism (or at least what the label is usually applied to) is unappealing to almost everyone in this political environment.

[PUTAT]

I'd personally struggle to call a person with a roughly equal amount of extreme views from the left and right a centrist.

A better term would be a syncretist. Alexander Dugin and Haz are examples.

[Lipizia]

I don't know whether I'm for or against the existence of this thread

The thread?

[PUTAT]

I don't know whether I'm for or against the existence of this thread

I think the problem is that centrist politicians just represent a compromise between two unpopular political groupings. People who don't identify with either are often negatively polarized against both (or at least many of the aspects that centrists tend to adopt from them), and partisans will naturally reject any compromise with their sworn enemies, so centrism (or at least what the label is usually applied to) is unappealing to almost everyone in this political environment.

Yeah. The center status quo (neoliberal globalism) is highly divisive these days.

[Chess Socialism]

I don't know whether I'm for or against the existence of this thread

I think the problem is that centrist politicians just represent a compromise between two unpopular political groupings. People who don't identify with either are often negatively polarized against both (or at least many of the aspects that centrists tend to adopt from them), and partisans will naturally reject any compromise with their sworn enemies, so centrism (or at least what the label is usually applied to) is unappealing to almost everyone in this political environment.

Yeah. The center status quo (neoliberal globalism) is highly divisive these days.

And there is room to improve on it.

[Potato Gun]

This thread is like centrism as a whole bland, uninteresting, and ultimately useless.

[Schwessen-Hellfohen]

This thread is like centrism as a whole bland, uninteresting, and ultimately useless.

Centrism is a term that designates various ideologies and thoughts.