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Postby Legalese » Mon May 18, 2026 5:59 pm

Recuecn wrote:
Farfadillis wrote:I carried out the testing, so feel free to ask me questions regarding how we reached this conclusion.

How did you reach this conclusion?


Seconding this. Especially given the circumstances, the decision to apply a significant penalty beyond what had been envisioned, as well as the implication that it's not just an allegation related to the World Cup itself warrants some more detail.
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Postby Warkus » Mon May 18, 2026 8:01 pm

With perhaps the worst OOC timing possible, Warkus will be looking for a new manager after the qualifiers. Looking for managers with either national team experience or club experience (If ranked outside the top 100, then ideally they improved their national team. If ranked inside the top 100, then they can be downwardly mobile or 'meh'.)

If interested, please TG me or DM me on Discord if interested with a name, brief bio, previous history and any other preferences you have. I'm fine adjusting tactics and the like if you want to offer me a defensively-minded manager, for example.
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Postby Farfadillis » Mon May 18, 2026 8:13 pm

My bad for fielding questions on Discord and only recapping now. This is exhausting to recap so I might be a little too brief, just ask me to expand upon anything you're curious about.

Basically, I looked at small details in Tikariot's RPs, ran them through a couple AI detectors. Some of them, despite being unreliable, were pointing towards something bad going on. Some of the small details I'd looked were also very much not encouraging. I ended up settling on just singing for a free trial of Pangram, an AI detector that is well-known for being both good and focusing on having a considerably higher false negative rate than false positive rate (ie one that would be generous to Tikariot). Right around this time Para correctly pointed out it could be a good idea to check whether Pyazhnaya's RPs had been compromised. This had somewhow not occurred to me at all. Thanks Para.

I devised a ton of tests to a point where it's honestly kind of interesting just how badly they turned out. I grabbed samples of RPs at random, samples of RPs from World Cup 80 (ie pre-AI), samples of RPs from RPers I considered to be at least somewhat similar to Tikarior, samples of RPers I suspected of maybe using AI, samples of my own RPs, samples of high-quality RPs. I also tried a few AI-translated RPs and crafted a specific AI-aided RP (it was far from heavily AI-aided, and I bridged the gap between my own writing and the AI writing). I ran all of these things through Pangram and every single time the only way any RP would not come back as confidently 100% Human was if Tikariot/Pyazhnaya was the author. Pangram has a feature where it graphs which parts are more or less AI. I also combined Tikariot's RPs with RPs that could not be AI-written (think World Cup 80 RPs, for example) and invariably Pangram picked out Tikariot's RP as the one part that was AI-written. Even when the RPs were interspersed, Pangram didn't really like it unless Tikariot's relative presence in a certain chunk of text was fairly low. I could be forgetting some more of the evidence. I went over the process on Discord, in case anyone's curious, but I think what I've outlined already more than warrants the exceptionally harsh penalties applied.

Regarding the other tournaments, I also tried some RPs from past CRs and the last WBC. If I recall correctly, out of all of what I tried, the only RPs that didn't come back as fully 100% AI were Pyazhnaya's first, second, third and fourth (0%, 0%, very high%, extremely high% respectively) and Tik's WBC RP, which came back at about 60% and was apparently basically half human-written and then finished by an AI, according to Pangram. Pyazhnaya's third and fourth RPs followed the same pattern, if memory serves.

I was honestly glad literally no other RPer had Pangram questioning them in the slightest, if I'm honest. I don't think these results can be explained away by claiming one's writing is quirkily and exceptionally aligned with AI writing. False positives exist but actively imitating AI consistently is an extraordinarily hard endeavor. It doesn't really come down to writing "drab" or "meh" RPs, as some on the server seemed to think. It comes down to subtler stuff. One, two, maybe three false positives (and not at 100%, with high confidence every time) would've been something worth thinking thoroughly about. But as the tests came back so resoundingly positive we took the liberty to pull the figurative trigger much sooner than we thought we would have to.

I think this whole... thing... has been very regrettable, and I understand there's a possibility some among you (although based on the server's reaction so far these "some" would be an apparent vanishing minority) might find the evidence here not conclusive. The only answer I have to anyone not convinced is that we're the hosts and, at the end of the day, this was our very carefully deliberated decision. I'm sorry if you disagree with it, but it is what it is.
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Champions: World Cup 84, AOCAF Cups 43, 48 and 57 and ARC 5
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Postby Sel Appa » Mon May 18, 2026 8:56 pm

Farfadillis wrote:My bad for fielding questions on Discord and only recapping now. This is exhausting to recap so I might be a little too brief, just ask me to expand upon anything you're curious about.

Basically, I looked at small details in Tikariot's RPs, ran them through a couple AI detectors. Some of them, despite being unreliable, were pointing towards something bad going on. Some of the small details I'd looked were also very much not encouraging. I ended up settling on just singing for a free trial of Pangram, an AI detector that is well-known for being both good and focusing on having a considerably higher false negative rate than false positive rate (ie one that would be generous to Tikariot). Right around this time Para correctly pointed out it could be a good idea to check whether Pyazhnaya's RPs had been compromised. This had somewhow not occurred to me at all. Thanks Para.

I devised a ton of tests to a point where it's honestly kind of interesting just how badly they turned out. I grabbed samples of RPs at random, samples of RPs from World Cup 80 (ie pre-AI), samples of RPs from RPers I considered to be at least somewhat similar to Tikarior, samples of RPers I suspected of maybe using AI, samples of my own RPs, samples of high-quality RPs. I also tried a few AI-translated RPs and crafted a specific AI-aided RP (it was far from heavily AI-aided, and I bridged the gap between my own writing and the AI writing). I ran all of these things through Pangram and every single time the only way any RP would not come back as confidently 100% Human was if Tikariot/Pyazhnaya was the author. Pangram has a feature where it graphs which parts are more or less AI. I also combined Tikariot's RPs with RPs that could not be AI-written (think World Cup 80 RPs, for example) and invariably Pangram picked out Tikariot's RP as the one part that was AI-written. Even when the RPs were interspersed, Pangram didn't really like it unless Tikariot's relative presence in a certain chunk of text was fairly low. I could be forgetting some more of the evidence. I went over the process on Discord, in case anyone's curious, but I think what I've outlined already more than warrants the exceptionally harsh penalties applied.

Regarding the other tournaments, I also tried some RPs from past CRs and the last WBC. If I recall correctly, out of all of what I tried, the only RPs that didn't come back as fully 100% AI were Pyazhnaya's first, second, third and fourth (0%, 0%, very high%, extremely high% respectively) and Tik's WBC RP, which came back at about 60% and was apparently basically half human-written and then finished by an AI, according to Pangram. Pyazhnaya's third and fourth RPs followed the same pattern, if memory serves.

I was honestly glad literally no other RPer had Pangram questioning them in the slightest, if I'm honest. I don't think these results can be explained away by claiming one's writing is quirkily and exceptionally aligned with AI writing. False positives exist but actively imitating AI consistently is an extraordinarily hard endeavor. It doesn't really come down to writing "drab" or "meh" RPs, as some on the server seemed to think. It comes down to subtler stuff. One, two, maybe three false positives (and not at 100%, with high confidence every time) would've been something worth thinking thoroughly about. But as the tests came back so resoundingly positive we took the liberty to pull the figurative trigger much sooner than we thought we would have to.

I think this whole... thing... has been very regrettable, and I understand there's a possibility some among you (although based on the server's reaction so far these "some" would be an apparent vanishing minority) might find the evidence here not conclusive. The only answer I have to anyone not convinced is that we're the hosts and, at the end of the day, this was our very carefully deliberated decision. I'm sorry if you disagree with it, but it is what it is.

Having just read thru the discord instead of slamming out an RP, I can endorse this as a sufficiently faithful depiction.
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Postby Legalese » Tue May 19, 2026 6:29 am

Farfadillis wrote:snip


Thanks for elaborating/bringing us up to speed! I don't have any questions.
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Postby Farfadillis » Tue May 19, 2026 10:48 am

Announcement: tomorrow's cut-off will be handled entirely by our lovely, neighborly, tortured-by-yours-truly co-host Paradystopia. Entirely. Groups 9-16 are his problem now. Also, his cut-off will likely happen later than usual, but that's still way earlier than my cut-offs, so participants in Groups 9 through 16 should really bear that in mind. Also, we're aware the forums have been acting up. If they keep at it, scorination could be pushed back a day, but for now work off the assumption that that's not going to be the case.
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Champions: World Cup 84, AOCAF Cups 43, 48 and 57 and ARC 5
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Postby Alasdair I Frosticus » Tue May 19, 2026 12:08 pm

I, erm... wow.

I was coming in to Sports to tidy up an RP I'd been planning on naturalist David Atenboro [sic] observing footballing shoggoths in their natural habitat, and...; well, initially I thought my qualifying group had just been formatted badly.

Now I think I need to completely rework what I was going to write, and save David Atenboro for later. And I'm not quite sure how I'm going to do it yet; somehow I feel I need to explain this in RP terms. But how?

Ah; typing this, and I think I might have just found some inspiration.
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Postby Paradystopia » Wed May 20, 2026 3:28 am

Farfadillis wrote:Announcement: tomorrow's cut-off will be handled entirely by our lovely, neighborly, tortured-by-yours-truly co-host Paradystopia.

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"Yes boss ... Sure thing boss ..."


In all seriousness, I agreed to such things.

To re-iterate from a post on the discord, due to my own RL commitments, the final qualification cut-off window will be later than my usual time, and whilst I cannot accurately say how much later, my current estimate is at some point 22:00 - 23:00 UTC.

It may possibly be later than this and I will do my best to keep everyone updated should it differ wildly from the time stated here.
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Postby The Kytler Peninsulae » Wed May 20, 2026 6:11 pm

Obviously, as both the WCC President and an IC neighbour of Tikariot who rode this connection to multiple co-hosting jobs, this has been a pretty wild development.

My immediate reaction was... probably disbelief? But I also knew that Tik was big on the technology as a whole - obviously using them for images in NSS and also for text in the day job - and so the idea that he might have at least explored what machine-generated RP could look like, perhaps mixing in prompted filler text around his own writing, felt at least plausible. And it was precisely because of his broader boosterism that I was, quite honestly, starting to OOCly feel awkward about the extent to which I'd become ICly entangled with him, and by extension OOCly too given my tendency to care about geographic IC detail such as hosting tournaments with IC neighbours. Subconsciously, it was as if I was prepared for something to give, and here it is - and, by sheer coincidence, timed exactly as I gained another IC near-neighbour with Chromatika's move.

The TLDR of Farf's case is that it feels devastatingly undeniable; the multi-cycle, multi-competition evidence plus the lack of false negatives from the kind of RPs that I might have anticipated triggering them are both particularly eye-opening details. I cannot disapprove of the actions Farf/Para have made in light of the strength of their prosecution case, but beyond that, from an OOC/WCC perspective, I am not entirely sure what to do; a WCC vote along the lines of Vilitagate is possible, given that it would produce an outcome driven by community rather than individual judgment, but this is not locked in yet and time is not of the essence here. ICly, this could very plausibly trigger me abandoning The Kytler Peninsulae and rolling out a new main nation as early as WC102 - my potential IC narratives for this absolutely include an(other) isolationist spiral of the kind I've effectively left wide open for whenever I got disillusioned with NS and/or this specific nation, but I didn't expect a catalyst like this.

But I'm absolutely nervous about making hasty decisions, and if it sounds like I'm emotionally bewildered by this and more inclined to focus on the relative escapism of IC implications than to dare make Official Judgments in my administrative role... that's because I am!
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed May 20, 2026 10:58 pm

Just posting briefly over the Tikariot matter with my mod hat on...

It's my informal opinion as a long-time NSWC participant that this is most likely not a moderation issue, and is solely an internal tournament governance issue. Extensive use of AI to support RP does not appear to be actionable under site rules - though it may well be considered poor etiquette - and the only sanctions available, should sanctions be considered desirable, are those which the NSWC community may choose to apply under its own rules (where the latter aren't superseded by broader site rules).

BUT ... and this is a big but ... should the community as a whole decide to ask for a more formal moderation ruling on this - and it's important to stress that the community is under no obligation to abide by my informal opinion offered above - then I have to recuse myself completely. My RP nation has only qualified directly for World Cup 101 because of the disqualification of Tikariot. As such, it would be completely inappropriate for me to be involved in any moderation capacity to rule for or against Tikariot or the actions of the community on this issue; it's an obvious conflict of interest.

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Postby Sel Appa » Wed May 20, 2026 11:39 pm

Whatever happens, I dont think there is any rush. Perhaps it might be best to wait until the cycle ends to take an action. Theyve already been provisionally disqualified from the tournament. Any retroactive action need not be done with any haste.
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Postby Farfadillis » Wed May 20, 2026 11:55 pm

I think the easiest (or, well, most frictionless) solution is for Tik to own up to what he did, apologize, never do it again, and for all of us to move forward. He'll obviously have a really careful eye placed on his RPing going forward, and another instance of this should be taken to be a very grave offense. That said, I do think it might warrant reframing his recent performances in some competitions. As co-caretake of the SRS+ rankings, I'm heavily leaning towards excluding his performances in WCs 96 through 100 from his SRS+ points (apart from the points accrued from hosting, which I see no reason to exclude; plus possibly the extra point for qualifying via hosting), since WC 96 is as far back as I've bothered to check enough to find strong signs of AI use.

But my central point, SRS+ business aside, is that I think it's best to hand out harsh but present punishments (as well as retroactive 'fixes', whatever those may be), as opposed to something that would make it prohibitive for Tik to rejoin the community in the future. And yes, I realize the irony in saying this as one of the hosts that thought it was best to disqualify him from the current World Cup.
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Postby Liventia » Thu May 21, 2026 2:07 am

I'm surprised to read of the allegations but I think the evidence, especially that no other samples from others pinged the various checks, does lean towards proof on the balance of probabilities. I don't think it needs to go anywhere towards how Vilitagate was resolved. That was a very specific set of circumstances relating to puppetry.

All I want to add is Tikariot has asked the (Discord) community for personal help before when they were struggling with issues IRL and we were there for them, and I hope people continue to be there for them if necessary rather than look at this and decide not to help if they require it in the future.
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Postby Audioslavia » Thu May 21, 2026 2:26 am

With the league phase of qualifying over, here are your Post-Qualifying rankings for the midway point of cycle 101. Let us know if you see any errors.

 Cycle 101 Post Qualifying           |KPB-----
1┇SQUORNSHELOUS 32.94
2┇SAINT ELEANOR 30.72
3┇VALANORA 28.20
4┇FLAVOVESPIA 27.26
5┇TANIRINTHIA 26.38
6┇APHRILIA 25.68
7┇AUDIOSLAVIA 24.86
8┇KWRPANIA 23.44
9┇THE KYTLER PENINSULAE 22.30
10┇KO-OREN 21.25
11┇STRAYAROOS 21.24
12┇SIOVANIJA AND TEUSLAND 21.07
13┇BANIJA 21.00
14┇EDSMONTIK 20.94
15┇CHROMATIKA 20.67
16┇BUSOGA ISLANDS 20.26
17┇TIKARIOT 20.02
18┇FARFADILLIS 19.77
19┇VDARA 19.74
20┇COMMONWEALTH OF BAKER PARK 19.58
21┇VALENTINE Z 19.40
22┇KELSSEK 18.92
23┇KAMIJIRO 18.55
24┇ZENIC 18.37
25┇PASARGA 18.26
26┇KANZLIA 17.78
27┇REÇUEÇN 17.58
28┇QUSMO 17.06
29┇ALEIRAVE 16.22
30┇HUELAVIA 16.20
31┇PARADYSTOPIA 16.19
32┇JUVENCUS 16.01
33┇INDUSSE 15.74
34┇OBEROUR AR MORO 15.38
35┇TJUN-IA 15.37
36┇ESHIALAND 15.20
37┇KIMI-SUOMI 15.14
38┇CRPOSTRAN 15.01
39┇BOSTOPIA 14.74
40┇DRAWKLAND 14.73
41┇DARMEN 14.32
42┇EASTFIELD LODGE 13.70
43┇THE HOLY EMPIRE 13.63
44┇AUPRUSSIA 13.51
45┇ZWANGZUG 13.45
46┇SATERUN 13.40
47┇KATZEBURG 12.99
48┇SARZONIA 12.78
49┇BONUSIA 12.27
50┇MILCHAMA 12.18
51┇CAPTINA ISLAND 12.08
52┇THE KO-ORENITE CONSTELLATION 11.98
53┇DHEMIXIA 11.97
54┇PYAZHNAYA 11.95
55┇THE MARTIAN INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC11.78
56┇BIYAMBI 11.56
57┇SUPER EARTH 11.44
58┇COBRIO 11.21
59┇CHOPPYHAUSEN 11.18
60┇HANALIA 10.73
61┇HOT-DAMN 10.61
62┇SNESTAR 10.61
63┇NATKR 10.53
64┇LEGALESE 10.52
65┇SOLGAVDEN 10.35
66┇BHUMI MATAWIS EMPIRE 10.33
67┇UNITED STATES OF NOVA CALANIA 10.30
68┇CARDENAO 10.26
69┇SUDILIA 10.05
70┇CARPATHIA AND RUTHENIA 09.99
71┇SOVIET KEM 09.61
72┇CALGASIA 09.45
73┇ABANHFLEFT 09.38
74┇WARKUS 09.26
75┇THE OSNARI FEDERATION 09.13
76┇ANEWKANSAS 08.96
77┇SHIN-ZETSUBO 08.96
78┇YANGCHENIA 08.78
79┇GYAROMIA 08.68
80┇SANGTI AND THE FILINDO ISLES 08.64
81┇AIRANNIA 08.42
82┇DANTOPIA 08.31
83┇SERNET 08.19
84┇THE GOLDEN HARP 08.17
85┇WEST VDARA 08.03
86┇KANDORITH 08.03
87┇POMACHETTI 07.87
88┇XANNERIA 07.82
89┇SEL APPA 07.75
90┇THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED MARBL07.65
91┇STEWARTIKA 07.58
92┇NATANIANS AND NOSTS 07.46
93┇MERTAGNE 07.38
94┇HUAYRAMARCA 07.37
95┇OCHRE ISLANDS 07.34
96┇ESTORVIPA AND ESTORPIVA 07.32
97┇MYRTLE BEACH 07.17
98┇TRISTAN DE CUNHA 07.13
99┇SEEBERG 07.05
100┇YUEZHOU 07.02
101┇VIXETTE 07.01
102┇KAUMANN 06.96
103┇HAPILOPPER 06.94
104┇KONSTANTINO 06.69
105┇QASDEN 06.67
106┇HAMBORN 06.63
106┇RIANDERA 06.63
108┇OSTERHALTEN 06.38
109┇MONTAGNE NOIRE 06.32
110┇WOODSMERE 06.27
111┇SAPERETIA 06.15
112┇NEW MONTREAL STATES 06.13
113┇GNEJS 06.12
114┇KORDAVIA 06.08
115┇UNITED ADAIKES 05.89
116┇SARGOSSA 05.84
117┇MIDDLE ALBA 05.67
118┇GWARKOS 05.66
119┇ANDSO MANGIS 05.63
120┇LISANDER 05.57
121┇SAJNUR 05.57
122┇HISPINAS 05.54
123┇MARSONNE 05.49
124┇WEST BARACK AND EAST OBAMA 05.42
125┇DOUBEIA 05.42
126┇UNITED STATES OF ALPHA 05.42
127┇ATHEARA 05.40
128┇MYTANIJA 05.40
129┇DĒMOS 05.32
130┇MARITAINE 05.31
131┇TUMBRA 05.31
132┇ERIADNI 05.30
133┇BULL SHEET 05.27
134┇THE NORTH POLISH UNION 05.24
135┇OLASTOR 05.23
136┇ETHANE 05.21
137┇BORING PARADISE 05.21
138┇TOMERION 05.20
139┇DELACLAVA 05.19
140┇AAMATHYR 05.12
141┇EQUESTRIA 05.05
142┇BRUSSELSTEIN 04.94
143┇VETRAHJART 04.88
144┇SERENITAS NOVAE 04.87
145┇AFANC STRAIT 04.83
146┇RUSSIAN EMPIRE EHA 04.79
147┇QUAKMYBUSH 04.78
148┇KRYTENIA 04.73
149┇VISAYAS ISLANDS 04.69
150┇OSCIORU 04.54
151┇LIBEGEIST 04.44
152┇ALANIS STAR 04.37
153┇VIELFALTIG 04.30
154┇BRITONISEA 04.25
154┇MASRAYA 04.25
156┇ANDOSSA SE MITRIN VEGA 04.22
156┇SHARKTAIL 04.22
156┇SREDNJACI 04.22
159┇BAGGIELAND 04.10
160┇BHARATAMANDALA 04.09
161┇MOLADEA 04.03
162┇SMOLTRENDESTOF 04.00
162┇TAESHAN 04.00
164┇NUSANDARA 03.98
164┇THE KAISERS SYNDICATES 03.98
166┇SOLARAMPA 03.89
167┇EQUINOX AURATERRA 03.88
168┇FREE REPUBLICS 03.83
169┇TRAVANTA 03.81
169┇UNITED STATES OF DEVONTA 03.81
171┇SALTSTEAD 03.75
172┇MYSTRIS 03.71
173┇ZIRAHUEN 03.70
174┇PRIDNESTROVIA 03.70
175┇BURIKINIA 03.61
176┇AL-TAMAZGHA 03.58
177┇GROD ISLAND 03.56
178┇SYLESTONE 03.53
179┇KRONBIA 03.46
180┇MACBON 03.45
181┇GOUVANARCH 03.45
182┇EUROPEASIA 03.44
182┇KHAELU 03.44
182┇SAINT LAZARUS 03.44
185┇IGRATIA 03.39
186┇KITA-HINODE 03.38
187┇MERULLA 03.35
188┇HINTUWAN 03.33
189┇ARCHALIT 03.31
190┇AJTON 03.25
190┇COERCIA 03.25
192┇RALSALIN 03.21
193┇CAERBANNOG 03.20
194┇PICHVI 03.19
195┇GRAND EXULTIA 03.18
196┇ILE DE RICHELIEU 03.15
197┇BALDORIUM 03.15
197┇HIMURAJIMA 03.15
199┇KHARAKIA 03.11
199┇LIBESIA 03.11
199┇MEGISTOS 03.11
202┇GOLFO CENTRAL 03.10
202┇NATOT 03.10
202┇X COUNTRY 03.10
205┇AL-MOMENTA 03.10
205┇KENDORIA 03.10
207┇DIXIE FLORIDA 03.06
208┇DARKMANIA 03.01
209┇JECKLAND 03.00
209┇LIVENTIA 03.00
209┇TORNADICO 03.00
212┇VAISHNAVARIA 02.98
213┇ORCUO 02.96
214┇THE ELDER LANDS 02.95
215┇COLMAIJO 02.94
216┇ANNESTAH 02.94
216┇NEW EASTERN ROMA 02.94
218┇EPICLY AMAZING GIRAFFES 02.93
219┇BRUINSWIK 02.92
219┇BYTHIA 02.92
221┇BAKHUCHISTAN 02.89
221┇BONGO JOHNSON 02.89
221┇NEW EASTERN CANADA 02.89
221┇SERUMPUN 02.89
221┇WONDERING REFUGEES 02.89
226┇WEDICH 02.88
227┇CARDONIA 02.88
228┇GERMANIC CAT 02.85
229┇GIRINATHA EMPIRE 02.84
230┇VALLADARES 02.82
231┇ANONYMEGG 02.81
231┇LIBERECKY KRAJLAND 02.81
233┇ARITRAROY 02.79
233┇PHOENICIA 02.79
235┇SAFILOA 02.78
236┇CANAMN 02.75
236┇MOON DEING 02.75
238┇ARMERIEA 02.73
238┇DAMUKUNI 02.73
238┇POROTIA 02.73
238┇SURNE 02.73
242┇DELITAI 02.71
243┇POAFMERSIA 02.70
244┇DOYCHNYA 02.68
245┇MANUELIAN EMPIRE 02.67
246┇SPACE LASER DINOSAUR ROBOT PIRAT02.66
247┇HALTORIA 02.65
248┇LANGENIA 02.65
249┇NEW ZHENGGUO 02.63
249┇SINYAL 02.63
249┇THE LAKE ISLE OF INNISFREE 02.63
252┇LOYO 02.62
253┇BRUSSELDORF 02.61
254┇PUTRASIA 02.58
255┇IMPERIAL REGNUM 02.56
255┇KILICHLOOM 02.56
255┇SAVOJARNA 02.56
255┇SOUTH KERALA 02.56
255┇THE MINIONA ISLANDS 02.56
260┇SANTIRA 02.54
261┇TAXHAVN 02.53
262┇UNITED HAWKLAND 02.50
263┇ERAMAN 02.47
264┇BEAL AN MHUIRTHEAD 02.44
264┇NATION STATES LOGIC 02.44
264┇SKORPIIE 02.44
267┇COTHE SARIA 02.44
268┇FRAYSTON 02.43
269┇SOUTH NEWLANDIA 02.42
270┇GREGO 02.42
270┇NEW ARBUCKLE 02.42
272┇LEBRONSLEFTNUT 02.40
272┇MINDHART 02.40
272┇SHIZUNA REM MISURUGI 02.40
275┇MERIS 02.38
275┇RANORIA 02.38
277┇SEA PEOPLES LEAGUE 02.35
278┇THE BATAVIA 02.33
278┇ZIOTAH & RIVERSIDE 02.33
280┇ASTOGRATH 02.31
281┇VELESTE 02.29
282┇PACITALIA 02.28
283┇SIC TRANSIT GLORIA URSI 02.27
284┇CASSADAIGUA 02.25
284┇FELINETOPIA 02.25
284┇GEEKTOPIA 02.25
284┇HAFAMARIMËT 02.25
284┇LIGNUNTIA 02.25
284┇THE KNOCKOUT GUN GALS 02.25
290┇ALLAMUNNIC STATES 02.22
290┇NUEVA COMPOSTELA 02.22
292┇BAMAN AND JUKET LIBERATIONISTS 02.21
292┇CRETIAN TERRITORIES 02.21
292┇KNIGHTS OF LUSITANIA 02.21
292┇WHISPINIA 02.21
292┇WINDOWS 7 BLISS 02.21
297┇ESISTAN 02.19
297┇MINOPTRA 02.19
297┇SKYBERIUS 02.19
297┇THE FERRET LANDS 02.19
301┇SECTOR 18 02.15
302┇BOHR 02.14
303┇JERUSELEM 02.11
304┇YUUGRIA 02.08
305┇DEMOT 02.07
306┇SAMBUCA 02.06
306┇TXAKHAXI 02.06
308┇TREMOSIA 02.04
309┇DRAFTCUBIC 02.02
309┇SALAGAVANYA 02.02
311┇RASPOTOCHJE 02.00
312┇BEARS ARMED 01.97
313┇VEK KRONAKIYA 01.93
314┇ELMYIA 01.90
315┇TJORL 01.88
316┇ACAPAIS 01.88
316┇FRANCANADA 01.88
316┇GREATER DEUTSCHE 01.88
316┇LASSIAH 01.88
316┇ORIENTAL OF RIO DE LA PLATA 01.88
321┇NORRHEM 01.86
322┇ESPORTIVAN DARMEN 01.86
323┇AETHELIA 01.85
323┇BURG LAND 01.85
325┇THE AUGUST ISLANDS 01.85
326┇BEHH 01.83
326┇SALAGALU 01.83
328┇THE ENQAB ARCHIPELAGO LABORATORI01.80
329┇PAKHOMIYA 01.75
330┇PATRIOTLANDIA 01.73
331┇EFNAKIA 01.69
331┇NETHERTOPIA 01.69
331┇RIZZMAN EMPIRE 01.69
331┇THE DEMOCRATIC UNIONIST COOL KID01.69
335┇BRIGANTII 01.67
335┇DIOLLO 01.67
337┇JAOAA 01.65
337┇KONKERT 01.65
339┇DENYSSIA 01.63
340┇NIEUWELAND 01.60
341┇LIMEY GEORGE 01.57
342┇FHULGHAMOUS PENINSULA 01.55
343┇INDO-ATHENA 01.50
343┇LIBONESIA 01.50
343┇NERGTUL 01.50
343┇PAPIV NAPPON 01.50
347┇KHACHEN 01.48
348┇NOVA DACKIANS 01.46
349┇NEW FERNIA 01.44
350┇LEGENDENEX 01.43
351┇ZALINIVIA 01.42
352┇NEW-ADDLEBRAND 01.40
353┇THREE GOLDEN KINGDOMS 01.39
354┇NEW CRYWYZYXYCYNYA 01.33
355┇AVOTE 01.31
355┇KARMOSORA 01.31
357┇CHEMICALA 01.27
358┇THE 14 STARS 01.26
359┇GOPNIKEA 01.22
360┇ABAHAMBA 01.21
361┇AMERICAN GENERATIONS 01.21
361┇UNITARNIA 01.21
363┇OSARIUS 01.18
364┇ADYATIN 01.14
364┇FORT MCKINLEY 01.14
364┇KARST SOCIALIST REPUBLIC 01.14
364┇OONTAZ 01.14
368┇VERY TOTALLY FREE 01.13
369┇GREATER PORTUGALIZA 01.10
369┇SIBERSKY 01.10
371┇ORIONI 01.08
372┇COMMUNIST NORMANDY AND BRITTANY 01.07
372┇NEW ROTTERDAM CITY 01.07
374┇NAROVI 01.00
375┇THAELORIA 00.98
376┇CONCORDIA 00.95
377┇LAS SAS LAS 00.86
378┇CERULEAN ISLES 00.82
378┇YESOPALITHA 00.82
380┇ONLY SIX WORDS 00.75
380┇PAPO-IRIYA 00.75
382┇PULANG 00.72
383┇INDEPENDENT ATHLETES FROM QUEBEC00.71
384┇NOTCOMMUNIST3 00.67
384┇NPU 00.67
386┇OMERICA 00.66
387┇APALATCI 00.57
387┇EBERLAND 00.57
387┇QUEBEC 00.57
387┇ROBOSTANIA 00.57
387┇SANFORD 00.57
387┇THE LICENTIAN ISLES 00.57
387┇THE POLLO 00.57
394┇ELECTRUM 00.56
394┇SHIVERIAN REPUBLICS 00.56
396┇SADAME 00.56
397┇SOUTHERN PALM ISLANDS 00.53
398┇GATCHINGERRAK UNION 00.50
398┇INDEPENDENT ATHLETES FROM FILIS-00.50
398┇MAPHIDON 00.50
401┇FRANCOBALKAN PENINSULA 00.44
401┇TEVUEKK 00.44
403┇THE DOCÚVNIJA ISLANDS 00.44
404┇CASTOLO AND MINANDA 00.43
404┇XUOIS 00.43
404┇YUZHNYA 00.43
407┇NEXXUS DRAKO 00.33
407┇SAGOTRA 00.33
407┇SAO DOMINGGO 00.33
407┇TANAH HIJAU 00.33
407┇UNITED ARABIAN EMIRATE 00.33
407┇WENTZVILLE 00.33
413┇ADAB 00.31
413┇CHOBOTAN 00.31
415┇A VARIABLE NUMBER OF KNIGHTS WHO00.29
415┇CRANSIA 00.29
415┇ERROROPOLISISH PARADYSTOPIA 00.29
415┇GUCCI REPUBLIC 00.29
415┇NEOPOLITAN CENTRAL REPUBLIC 00.29
415┇NYOWANI KITARA 00.29
415┇SAINTLAND 00.29
415┇SHURE REPUBLIC 00.29
415┇XINHUA 00.29
424┇LOZHO 00.28
425┇DARWIZZYUNIVERSE 00.25
425┇JIRINHO 00.25
425┇LAWANG DARUL ARIF 00.25
425┇MURALOS 00.25
429┇MELBERGIA 00.22
429┇REPUBLICANLAND 00.22
431┇ALIXE 00.17
431┇CAPITULISTS 00.17
431┇HAZARDIA 00.17
431┇KIJANG MAS 00.17
435┇ACLAN 00.13
435┇BEEFSTEAK CITY 00.13
435┇REA SAN VEGAS 00.13
438┇HENRIK P 00.11
438┇SHEP 00.11
440┇INGONT 00.06
441┇THE UNITED QUEENDOM 00.06
442┇ACADIANA 00.00
442┇AURELITHARION 00.00
442┇FRJÁLSHÖFN 00.00
442┇MALALAIME 00.00
442┇PHILIPPINE ISLANDS AND FORMOSA 00.00
442┇POLKOPIA 00.00
442┇PROTECTORIA 00.00
442┇SASSADEGNA 00.00
442┇SIXTY-NINE X 00.00
442┇STRAYAROOS BARRIER ISLANDS 00.00
442┇THE GREARISH UNION 00.00
442┇TRIUMVIRATUS 00.00
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Baker Park --> Commonwealth of Baker Park
Squornshelan Remnant States --> Squornshelous
Republic of the United Marble Tribes --> The Republic of the United Marble Tribes
Beal an Mhuirthread --> Beal an Mhuirthead
The Afanc Strait --> Afanc Strait
=♉︎=IF YOUR SIGNATURE IS LARGER THAN THIS, WHY? THE SHORTER THE SIG, THE GREATER THE LENGTHS PEOPLE GO TO READ IT◤♕◢

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Postby Warkus » Thu May 21, 2026 7:55 am

On the technical front, I find Farf’s case very compelling. I mentioned this on the Discord, but I work in a university department with a number of AI and AI-adjacent researchers and have personally interacted with some influential figures who work for a leading AI company. There is a broad consensus among both groups that Pangram is the leading AI plagiarism detection software and that at the very least its current model has an astronomically low false positive rate. #NotAnAd. For what it’s worth, I don’t use Pangram in my own teaching because doing so would violate university policy and regardless there are ethical issues with handing student work to third parties.

On the OOC/WCC punishment front, I think it would be best to investigate their RPs in other competitions before considering any kind of retrospective punishment. I can already confirm that Pyazhnaya RP’s in CAFA Cup 12, which I hosted (They did not RP in the 13th edition), are among the AI-generated RPs. I did not clock this at the time, although I also did not think their RPs were very good and was perhaps too credulous in assuming they were the product of writing under time constraints plus a tendency to mimic some of the bad tendencies in AI-generated writing due to the user’s stated experience of working with AI. It looks like Pyazhnaya’s performance in that competition did not contribute to their KPB+ rank and non-WCC competitions, including regional tournaments, can presumably make their own independent decisions about this regardless of what the WCC decides.

This is unlike most other NSS plagiarism cases: Tikariot is a respected member of the community who knows better and they’ve violated rules made explicit by the hosts in multiple competitions – rules they have enforced themselves when hosting. That being said, I’m wary of doing anything more than enforcing the existing rules (and retrospectively doing so in the case of previous tournaments where Tikariot’s plagiarism flew under the radar). Not to dredge up ancient history, but back in the early 2010s Burchadinger was caught plagiarising by lightly editing RL news articles, admitted their wrongdoing and then got caught plagiarising again. They were penalised in the competitions they wrote plagiarised RPs for but, as far as I recall, were allowed back into the community even after getting caught the second time. The cases are still different in some important respects: Burchadinger was a child, English was their second language, they were still relatively new etc. But still, I think that precedent should count for something.

It might be a good idea for future hosts to look into more proactive ways to address AI plagiarism. One idea might be to reserve the right, if you suspect a user is engaging in AI plagiarism, to ask them to submit future RPs in the form of a shared Google Doc so you can check the version history. Though considering it's relatively easy to emulate iterative authorship that might not be a feasible solution.
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Postby The Sernetian Empire » Thu May 21, 2026 11:18 am

Audioslavia wrote:With the league phase of qualifying over, here are your Post-Qualifying rankings for the midway point of cycle 101. Let us know if you see any errors.

 Cycle 101 Post Qualifying           |KPB-----
1┇SQUORNSHELOUS 32.94
2┇SAINT ELEANOR 30.72
3┇VALANORA 28.20
4┇FLAVOVESPIA 27.26
5┇TANIRINTHIA 26.38
6┇APHRILIA 25.68
7┇AUDIOSLAVIA 24.86
8┇KWRPANIA 23.44
9┇THE KYTLER PENINSULAE 22.30
10┇KO-OREN 21.25
11┇STRAYAROOS 21.24
12┇SIOVANIJA AND TEUSLAND 21.07
13┇BANIJA 21.00
14┇EDSMONTIK 20.94
15┇CHROMATIKA 20.67
16┇BUSOGA ISLANDS 20.26
17┇TIKARIOT 20.02
18┇FARFADILLIS 19.77
19┇VDARA 19.74
20┇COMMONWEALTH OF BAKER PARK 19.58
21┇VALENTINE Z 19.40
22┇KELSSEK 18.92
23┇KAMIJIRO 18.55
24┇ZENIC 18.37
25┇PASARGA 18.26
26┇KANZLIA 17.78
27┇REÇUEÇN 17.58
28┇QUSMO 17.06
29┇ALEIRAVE 16.22
30┇HUELAVIA 16.20
31┇PARADYSTOPIA 16.19
32┇JUVENCUS 16.01
33┇INDUSSE 15.74
34┇OBEROUR AR MORO 15.38
35┇TJUN-IA 15.37
36┇ESHIALAND 15.20
37┇KIMI-SUOMI 15.14
38┇CRPOSTRAN 15.01
39┇BOSTOPIA 14.74
40┇DRAWKLAND 14.73
41┇DARMEN 14.32
42┇EASTFIELD LODGE 13.70
43┇THE HOLY EMPIRE 13.63
44┇AUPRUSSIA 13.51
45┇ZWANGZUG 13.45
46┇SATERUN 13.40
47┇KATZEBURG 12.99
48┇SARZONIA 12.78
49┇BONUSIA 12.27
50┇MILCHAMA 12.18
51┇CAPTINA ISLAND 12.08
52┇THE KO-ORENITE CONSTELLATION 11.98
53┇DHEMIXIA 11.97
54┇PYAZHNAYA 11.95
55┇THE MARTIAN INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC11.78
56┇BIYAMBI 11.56
57┇SUPER EARTH 11.44
58┇COBRIO 11.21
59┇CHOPPYHAUSEN 11.18
60┇HANALIA 10.73
61┇HOT-DAMN 10.61
62┇SNESTAR 10.61
63┇NATKR 10.53
64┇LEGALESE 10.52
65┇SOLGAVDEN 10.35
66┇BHUMI MATAWIS EMPIRE 10.33
67┇UNITED STATES OF NOVA CALANIA 10.30
68┇CARDENAO 10.26
69┇SUDILIA 10.05
70┇CARPATHIA AND RUTHENIA 09.99
71┇SOVIET KEM 09.61
72┇CALGASIA 09.45
73┇ABANHFLEFT 09.38
74┇WARKUS 09.26
75┇THE OSNARI FEDERATION 09.13
76┇ANEWKANSAS 08.96
77┇SHIN-ZETSUBO 08.96
78┇YANGCHENIA 08.78
79┇GYAROMIA 08.68
80┇SANGTI AND THE FILINDO ISLES 08.64
81┇AIRANNIA 08.42
82┇DANTOPIA 08.31
83┇SERNET 08.19
84┇THE GOLDEN HARP 08.17
85┇WEST VDARA 08.03
86┇KANDORITH 08.03
87┇POMACHETTI 07.87
88┇XANNERIA 07.82
89┇SEL APPA 07.75
90┇THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED MARBL07.65
91┇STEWARTIKA 07.58
92┇NATANIANS AND NOSTS 07.46
93┇MERTAGNE 07.38
94┇HUAYRAMARCA 07.37
95┇OCHRE ISLANDS 07.34
96┇ESTORVIPA AND ESTORPIVA 07.32
97┇MYRTLE BEACH 07.17
98┇TRISTAN DE CUNHA 07.13
99┇SEEBERG 07.05
100┇YUEZHOU 07.02
101┇VIXETTE 07.01
102┇KAUMANN 06.96
103┇HAPILOPPER 06.94
104┇KONSTANTINO 06.69
105┇QASDEN 06.67
106┇HAMBORN 06.63
106┇RIANDERA 06.63
108┇OSTERHALTEN 06.38
109┇MONTAGNE NOIRE 06.32
110┇WOODSMERE 06.27
111┇SAPERETIA 06.15
112┇NEW MONTREAL STATES 06.13
113┇GNEJS 06.12
114┇KORDAVIA 06.08
115┇UNITED ADAIKES 05.89
116┇SARGOSSA 05.84
117┇MIDDLE ALBA 05.67
118┇GWARKOS 05.66
119┇ANDSO MANGIS 05.63
120┇LISANDER 05.57
121┇SAJNUR 05.57
122┇HISPINAS 05.54
123┇MARSONNE 05.49
124┇WEST BARACK AND EAST OBAMA 05.42
125┇DOUBEIA 05.42
126┇UNITED STATES OF ALPHA 05.42
127┇ATHEARA 05.40
128┇MYTANIJA 05.40
129┇DĒMOS 05.32
130┇MARITAINE 05.31
131┇TUMBRA 05.31
132┇ERIADNI 05.30
133┇BULL SHEET 05.27
134┇THE NORTH POLISH UNION 05.24
135┇OLASTOR 05.23
136┇ETHANE 05.21
137┇BORING PARADISE 05.21
138┇TOMERION 05.20
139┇DELACLAVA 05.19
140┇AAMATHYR 05.12
141┇EQUESTRIA 05.05
142┇BRUSSELSTEIN 04.94
143┇VETRAHJART 04.88
144┇SERENITAS NOVAE 04.87
145┇AFANC STRAIT 04.83
146┇RUSSIAN EMPIRE EHA 04.79
147┇QUAKMYBUSH 04.78
148┇KRYTENIA 04.73
149┇VISAYAS ISLANDS 04.69
150┇OSCIORU 04.54
151┇LIBEGEIST 04.44
152┇ALANIS STAR 04.37
153┇VIELFALTIG 04.30
154┇BRITONISEA 04.25
154┇MASRAYA 04.25
156┇ANDOSSA SE MITRIN VEGA 04.22
156┇SHARKTAIL 04.22
156┇SREDNJACI 04.22
159┇BAGGIELAND 04.10
160┇BHARATAMANDALA 04.09
161┇MOLADEA 04.03
162┇SMOLTRENDESTOF 04.00
162┇TAESHAN 04.00
164┇NUSANDARA 03.98
164┇THE KAISERS SYNDICATES 03.98
166┇SOLARAMPA 03.89
167┇EQUINOX AURATERRA 03.88
168┇FREE REPUBLICS 03.83
169┇TRAVANTA 03.81
169┇UNITED STATES OF DEVONTA 03.81
171┇SALTSTEAD 03.75
172┇MYSTRIS 03.71
173┇ZIRAHUEN 03.70
174┇PRIDNESTROVIA 03.70
175┇BURIKINIA 03.61
176┇AL-TAMAZGHA 03.58
177┇GROD ISLAND 03.56
178┇SYLESTONE 03.53
179┇KRONBIA 03.46
180┇MACBON 03.45
181┇GOUVANARCH 03.45
182┇EUROPEASIA 03.44
182┇KHAELU 03.44
182┇SAINT LAZARUS 03.44
185┇IGRATIA 03.39
186┇KITA-HINODE 03.38
187┇MERULLA 03.35
188┇HINTUWAN 03.33
189┇ARCHALIT 03.31
190┇AJTON 03.25
190┇COERCIA 03.25
192┇RALSALIN 03.21
193┇CAERBANNOG 03.20
194┇PICHVI 03.19
195┇GRAND EXULTIA 03.18
196┇ILE DE RICHELIEU 03.15
197┇BALDORIUM 03.15
197┇HIMURAJIMA 03.15
199┇KHARAKIA 03.11
199┇LIBESIA 03.11
199┇MEGISTOS 03.11
202┇GOLFO CENTRAL 03.10
202┇NATOT 03.10
202┇X COUNTRY 03.10
205┇AL-MOMENTA 03.10
205┇KENDORIA 03.10
207┇DIXIE FLORIDA 03.06
208┇DARKMANIA 03.01
209┇JECKLAND 03.00
209┇LIVENTIA 03.00
209┇TORNADICO 03.00
212┇VAISHNAVARIA 02.98
213┇ORCUO 02.96
214┇THE ELDER LANDS 02.95
215┇COLMAIJO 02.94
216┇ANNESTAH 02.94
216┇NEW EASTERN ROMA 02.94
218┇EPICLY AMAZING GIRAFFES 02.93
219┇BRUINSWIK 02.92
219┇BYTHIA 02.92
221┇BAKHUCHISTAN 02.89
221┇BONGO JOHNSON 02.89
221┇NEW EASTERN CANADA 02.89
221┇SERUMPUN 02.89
221┇WONDERING REFUGEES 02.89
226┇WEDICH 02.88
227┇CARDONIA 02.88
228┇GERMANIC CAT 02.85
229┇GIRINATHA EMPIRE 02.84
230┇VALLADARES 02.82
231┇ANONYMEGG 02.81
231┇LIBERECKY KRAJLAND 02.81
233┇ARITRAROY 02.79
233┇PHOENICIA 02.79
235┇SAFILOA 02.78
236┇CANAMN 02.75
236┇MOON DEING 02.75
238┇ARMERIEA 02.73
238┇DAMUKUNI 02.73
238┇POROTIA 02.73
238┇SURNE 02.73
242┇DELITAI 02.71
243┇POAFMERSIA 02.70
244┇DOYCHNYA 02.68
245┇MANUELIAN EMPIRE 02.67
246┇SPACE LASER DINOSAUR ROBOT PIRAT02.66
247┇HALTORIA 02.65
248┇LANGENIA 02.65
249┇NEW ZHENGGUO 02.63
249┇SINYAL 02.63
249┇THE LAKE ISLE OF INNISFREE 02.63
252┇LOYO 02.62
253┇BRUSSELDORF 02.61
254┇PUTRASIA 02.58
255┇IMPERIAL REGNUM 02.56
255┇KILICHLOOM 02.56
255┇SAVOJARNA 02.56
255┇SOUTH KERALA 02.56
255┇THE MINIONA ISLANDS 02.56
260┇SANTIRA 02.54
261┇TAXHAVN 02.53
262┇UNITED HAWKLAND 02.50
263┇ERAMAN 02.47
264┇BEAL AN MHUIRTHEAD 02.44
264┇NATION STATES LOGIC 02.44
264┇SKORPIIE 02.44
267┇COTHE SARIA 02.44
268┇FRAYSTON 02.43
269┇SOUTH NEWLANDIA 02.42
270┇GREGO 02.42
270┇NEW ARBUCKLE 02.42
272┇LEBRONSLEFTNUT 02.40
272┇MINDHART 02.40
272┇SHIZUNA REM MISURUGI 02.40
275┇MERIS 02.38
275┇RANORIA 02.38
277┇SEA PEOPLES LEAGUE 02.35
278┇THE BATAVIA 02.33
278┇ZIOTAH & RIVERSIDE 02.33
280┇ASTOGRATH 02.31
281┇VELESTE 02.29
282┇PACITALIA 02.28
283┇SIC TRANSIT GLORIA URSI 02.27
284┇CASSADAIGUA 02.25
284┇FELINETOPIA 02.25
284┇GEEKTOPIA 02.25
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The Afanc Strait --> Afanc Strait


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two questions btw:
1) Do the colours have any meanings?
2) Would it be advisable to RP each window during the playoffs even when I am not playing a match?
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Postby The Kytler Peninsulae » Thu May 21, 2026 11:33 am

The Sernetian Empire wrote:1) Do the colours have any meanings?
2) Would it be advisable to RP each window during the playoffs even when I am not playing a match?


1. It represents the regional tournament (or lack thereof) last participated in by the team in question. So Kwrpania and myself have the same colour because of being in the Copa Rushmori, while those in Anaia who played in the CAFA Cup have a different colour, those in the IAC (the "regional" tournament for teams whose regions don't have their own) another one again, etc.)
2. That's a Farf/Para question. The answer may be buried in the bid document, but I didn't see it there.
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Postby The Sernetian Empire » Thu May 21, 2026 11:48 am

The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:
The Sernetian Empire wrote:1) Do the colours have any meanings?
2) Would it be advisable to RP each window during the playoffs even when I am not playing a match?


1. It represents the regional tournament (or lack thereof) last participated in by the team in question. So Kwrpania and myself have the same colour because of being in the Copa Rushmori, while those in Anaia who played in the CAFA Cup have a different colour, those in the IAC (the "regional" tournament for teams whose regions don't have their own) another one again, etc.)
2. That's a Farf/Para question. The answer may be buried in the bid document, but I didn't see it there.

alr thanks
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Postby The Kytler Peninsulae » Thu May 21, 2026 11:54 am

Warkus wrote:On the technical front, I find Farf’s case very compelling. I mentioned this on the Discord, but I work in a university department with a number of AI and AI-adjacent researchers and have personally interacted with some influential figures who work for a leading AI company. There is a broad consensus among both groups that Pangram is the leading AI plagiarism detection software and that at the very least its current model has an astronomically low false positive rate. #NotAnAd. For what it’s worth, I don’t use Pangram in my own teaching because doing so would violate university policy and regardless there are ethical issues with handing student work to third parties.


I really appreciate this perspective (including and especially that last bit!) - I've definitely heard enough people talk up Pangram specifically for me to think that its judgment here is pretty damning.

Warkus also wrote:On the OOC/WCC punishment front, I think it would be best to investigate their RPs in other competitions before considering any kind of retrospective punishment. I can already confirm that Pyazhnaya RP’s in CAFA Cup 12, which I hosted (They did not RP in the 13th edition), are among the AI-generated RPs. I did not clock this at the time, although I also did not think their RPs were very good and was perhaps too credulous in assuming they were the product of writing under time constraints plus a tendency to mimic some of the bad tendencies in AI-generated writing due to the user’s stated experience of working with AI. It looks like Pyazhnaya’s performance in that competition did not contribute to their KPB+ rank and non-WCC competitions, including regional tournaments, can presumably make their own independent decisions about this regardless of what the WCC decides.


From the Copa Rushmori perspective - because that's the one I've been involved with - I can vouch for the plan being for Tikariot's three wins in four Copas (which overlaps precisely with the period where his RPs are Pangram-flagged) to be given the Lance Armstrong treatment and be expunged from the books along with the associated CR-specific ranking points. (This is provisional, pending views from others in the region.)

Having graded my share of Tikariotian RPs in the past - for the aforementioned Copas Rushmori and for the finals stage of the two WCs we co-hosted, plus Pyazhnaya's output in qualifying therein - I mostly just appreciated them at face value, and was only side-eyeing the enthusiasm for non-text machine-generated content. I didn't think he'd extend that to text, I also knew he knew the machine-generated "tells" better than me anyway, and I also knew that frankly he was capable of RPing at that level regardless. Heck, he prompted rings round us for well over a year - and that's almost an eternity in the evoluition of content-generation algorithms - and I'm entirely unsurprised that he could do that, just still shaken that he evidently would.

Warkus also wrote:This is unlike most other NSS plagiarism cases: Tikariot is a respected member of the community who knows better and they’ve violated rules made explicit by the hosts in multiple competitions – rules they have enforced themselves when hosting. That being said, I’m wary of doing anything more than enforcing the existing rules (and retrospectively doing so in the case of previous tournaments where Tikariot’s plagiarism flew under the radar). Not to dredge up ancient history, but back in the early 2010s Burchadinger was caught plagiarising by lightly editing RL news articles, admitted their wrongdoing and then got caught plagiarising again. They were penalised in the competitions they wrote plagiarised RPs for but, as far as I recall, were allowed back into the community even after getting caught the second time. The cases are still different in some important respects: Burchadinger was a child, English was their second language, they were still relatively new etc. But still, I think that precedent should count for something.

It might be a good idea for future hosts to look into more proactive ways to address AI plagiarism. One idea might be to reserve the right, if you suspect a user is engaging in AI plagiarism, to ask them to submit future RPs in the form of a shared Google Doc so you can check the version history. Though considering it's relatively easy to emulate iterative authorship that might not be a feasible solution.


Very interesting history point that I for one had forgotten - and we've also more recently/specifically had Liventia flag up Crpostran's Olympic RP for machine-generated content back in 2024, before that nation's first WC involvement - and having been called out and then responding in the right way, Crpostran secured a meteoric and positively-received ascent straight to the business end of the WC. So there's precedent from literally the same period in question for someone responding positively, but the difference is that Tik was hiding far more, for far longer, and getting away with it for cycles plural in competitions plural. I don't think there's a precedent of any kind that's close enough to be binding in any direction, which doesn't help in terms of actually deciding upon a judgment, but does mean that we have options open - this case is sui generis and should be treated as such.
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Postby Liventia » Thu May 21, 2026 12:26 pm

Warkus wrote:The cases are still different in some important respects: Burchadinger was a child, English was their second language, they were still relatively new etc.

Out of fairness, if we're going to draw that comparison, then it's worth mentioning that English is not Tik's first language either. Not that it should serve as a mitigating factor, simply that if we're drawing parallels to that case, language is not a material difference.
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Postby Farfadillis » Fri May 22, 2026 3:05 am

Host announcement (very important): we fucked up and we still don't really know how. We accidentally modified the sheet in between Para's 8th cut-off and mine. In a way that completely and very radically changes key results. We are terribly sorry. We have decided it's best to push back the whole schedule indefinitely (though not for more than, say, two days, realistically), because I will be pseudorescoring the results. The gist of it is I will be using the same rough 'randomness' that produced each result, except with the correct inputs. I can't reproduce the exact randomness, but I can recreate it quite faithfully by reverse engineering LISA and putting my math degree to use.

This basically means that if you had a bad set of results in the affected MDs and RP'd really well, your results will improve. The opposite also applies.

We are, again, terribly sorry. It's a strange screw up and, as I said, even looking at past version histories (which we can thankfully use to pinpoint the affected MDs), it's not at all clear how the fuck this happened. Send all relevant hatemail to my TGs.

Also, this naturally affects some of the RPs already posted. We will be grading without counting this against any of you, but we do recommend you to not RP until the final results are actually out. This will almost certainly be Saturday evening/night in Uruguay.
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Postby Audioslavia » Fri May 22, 2026 5:00 am

Good job on the hosts for being so open.

The resimmed scores mean that the KPB+ rankings posted above will likely change slightly. We'll post the new ones after the resims.
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Postby Ko-oren » Fri May 22, 2026 7:16 am

Thanks for catching this and taking the decision to rescore - not an easy decision, but a fair one nonetheless. I much rather have a host who gets it right the second time than a host who takes shortcuts in impartiality.

Please keep us updated on a timeline (for new results, playoff cutoffs, etc). I've also seen a few very frequently asked questions in discord that might need repeating here ('is it 2 MDs? 4 MDs? Or 2/4 scorination windows?')
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Postby Saperetia » Fri May 22, 2026 7:22 am

Ko-oren wrote:I've also seen a few very frequently asked questions in discord that might need repeating here ('is it 2 MDs? 4 MDs? Or 2/4 scorination windows?')


Isn't that question answered in the RP thread?

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Postby The Sernetian Empire » Fri May 22, 2026 8:13 am

Oh damn rescorination?
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