NATION

PASSWORD

how do you reconcile being LGBT+ with your religion?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Marinixa
Envoy
 
Posts: 286
Founded: Feb 07, 2026
Ex-Nation

Postby Marinixa » Wed Feb 11, 2026 6:27 pm

Vakhgala wrote:S3x in biology is to make offspring, and you cant do that in homosexuality

So what about casual sex between heterosexual people? Also what about infertile people?
Last edited by Marinixa on Wed Feb 11, 2026 6:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
The Democratic Republic of Marinixa is a South American nation located south of the Tandilia Mountains, renowned for it's beaches, it's extensively rural economy and it's petrochemical industry. It is currently recovering from an economically disastrous dictatorship, though hopes are higher than ever as the economy is slowly stabilizing.
«If I gave up on being pretty I wouldn't know how to be alive. I should move to a brand new city and teach myself how to die.»
«I know what I like. No, this is not a phase or a coming of age, this will never change»
«And the day has come where I have died only to find I’ve come alive.»

User avatar
Western Theram
Diplomat
 
Posts: 923
Founded: Aug 05, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Western Theram » Wed Feb 11, 2026 6:48 pm

Vrijlanden wrote:
Daemonkin of Corn wrote:

We are equating being gay to alcoholism now.. Wow...

Reminds me of that time I heard on the news when this deadbeat dad would come home from being gay and beat his kids... /s


Whether you hate them or not is entirely irrelevant. By promoting the idea that a intricate part of who they are, how they love, whom they desire to be with is somehow "harmful" has consequences on the well being of millions of people.

Moral panic around homosexuality has led to MILLIONS of deaths.

And? (I've decided to not engage with this debate due to its controversial nature)

AKA: "you mde me feel bad >:(!"
Last edited by Western Theram on Wed Feb 11, 2026 6:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
All policies canon | Acid-Communism
This nation does represent my views (is also a parody of them)| Certified Rat Girl and Loveable Tramp
☆ Proudhonian economics, Post-Modern Fantasy Tech, Anarchist paramilitaries,and Human test subjects for science ☣️

News: In a baffling press conference Dr Ratmeat proudly dismantled a broken door.

User avatar
Love Peace and Friendship
Envoy
 
Posts: 232
Founded: Feb 13, 2024
Ex-Nation

Postby Love Peace and Friendship » Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:29 pm

Marinixa wrote:
Vakhgala wrote:S3x in biology is to make offspring, and you cant do that in homosexuality

So what about casual sex between heterosexual people? Also what about infertile people?

God intervenes on behalf of the infertile in the Bible, such as with Abraham and Sarah.
The main rigid constraint there in Catholicism, at least, is that sexual acts must be open to life in that there is no attempt on the part of the husband and wife to stop pregnancy from occurring.
Last edited by Love Peace and Friendship on Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A hopefully nuanced and well reasoned Catholic. If I am not well reasoned, please inform me.


Terrorized by an enby and their nekos on the rmb.

User avatar
Magna-Parva
Minister
 
Posts: 2276
Founded: Feb 24, 2025
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Magna-Parva » Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:31 pm

Love Peace and Friendship wrote:
Marinixa wrote:So what about casual sex between heterosexual people? Also what about infertile people?

God intervenes on behalf of the infertile in the Bible, such as with Abraham and Sarah.
The main rigid constraint there in Catholicism, at least, is that sexual acts must be open to life in that there is no attempt on the part of the husband and wife to stop pregnancy from occurring.

See, the first bit didn't happen and the second bit spreads disease and poverty and is a bad idea. We should live our lives in the real world.
▲
◣ ◥■■■■◤ ◢
◥■■■■■■■■◤
◥■■■■■◤
◢■■■■■◣
▮
OOC: NDP—Green—Liberal supporter
"We are all wrong about patriotism. Patriotism is not dying for one's country, it is living for one's country and for humanity. Perhaps that is not so romantic, but it is better."—Agnes Macphail, in a 1928 speech in Windsor (source)

User avatar
Love Peace and Friendship
Envoy
 
Posts: 232
Founded: Feb 13, 2024
Ex-Nation

Postby Love Peace and Friendship » Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:35 pm

Magna-Parva wrote:
Love Peace and Friendship wrote:God intervenes on behalf of the infertile in the Bible, such as with Abraham and Sarah.
The main rigid constraint there in Catholicism, at least, is that sexual acts must be open to life in that there is no attempt on the part of the husband and wife to stop pregnancy from occurring.

See, the first bit didn't happen and the second bit spreads disease and poverty and is a bad idea. We should live our lives in the real world.

I mean, I guess children could spread disease, but I don't think that should be a primary consideration when deciding if to try for a child, if you are willing to vaccinate your child and provide them with the medical treatment and clinical visits necessary for them to ensure a healthy life.
A hopefully nuanced and well reasoned Catholic. If I am not well reasoned, please inform me.


Terrorized by an enby and their nekos on the rmb.

User avatar
Grenartia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 47460
Founded: Feb 14, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:38 pm

Love Peace and Friendship wrote:
Marinixa wrote:So what about casual sex between heterosexual people? Also what about infertile people?

1. God intervenes on behalf of the infertile in the Bible, such as with Abraham and Sarah.
2. The main rigid constraint there in Catholicism, at least, is that sexual acts must be open to life in that there is no attempt on the part of the husband and wife to stop pregnancy from occurring.


1. Which is like arguing against universal healthcare because Jesus healed a few sick people 2 millenia ago and sometimes people's cancer goes into remission.

2. Which is an internally inconsistent standard, since if one or both of those partners are infertile, then definitionally speaking, "the sexual act is closed to life", and they are acting in a manner to stop pregnancy from occurring.
Reject tradition, embrace modernity. People who call themselves based NEVER are.
She or they pronouns, please. Unrepentant transbian. Girlfriend of Jolthig. Steely-eyed missile woman.
Lib-left. Antifascist, antitankie, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist (including the imperialism of non-western countries). Christian (Unitarian Universalist). Background in physics.
Basic flag design by me, enhancements by Kuromistan.

User avatar
Magna-Parva
Minister
 
Posts: 2276
Founded: Feb 24, 2025
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Magna-Parva » Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:40 pm

Love Peace and Friendship wrote:
Magna-Parva wrote:See, the first bit didn't happen and the second bit spreads disease and poverty and is a bad idea. We should live our lives in the real world.

I mean, I guess children could spread disease, but I don't think that should be a primary consideration when deciding if to try for a child, if you are willing to vaccinate your child and provide them with the medical treatment and clinical visits necessary for them to ensure a healthy life.

That is...not what I was talking about. Have you heard of STDs?
▲
◣ ◥■■■■◤ ◢
◥■■■■■■■■◤
◥■■■■■◤
◢■■■■■◣
▮
OOC: NDP—Green—Liberal supporter
"We are all wrong about patriotism. Patriotism is not dying for one's country, it is living for one's country and for humanity. Perhaps that is not so romantic, but it is better."—Agnes Macphail, in a 1928 speech in Windsor (source)

User avatar
Love Peace and Friendship
Envoy
 
Posts: 232
Founded: Feb 13, 2024
Ex-Nation

Postby Love Peace and Friendship » Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:40 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Love Peace and Friendship wrote:1. God intervenes on behalf of the infertile in the Bible, such as with Abraham and Sarah.
2. The main rigid constraint there in Catholicism, at least, is that sexual acts must be open to life in that there is no attempt on the part of the husband and wife to stop pregnancy from occurring.


1. Which is like arguing against universal healthcare because Jesus healed a few sick people 2 millenia ago and sometimes people's cancer goes into remission.

2. Which is an internally inconsistent standard, since if one or both of those partners are infertile, then definitionally speaking, "the sexual act is closed to life", and they are acting in a manner to stop pregnancy from occurring.

...which is why it counters a claim and is not the crux of Christian sexual ethics.

If they intentionally sterilized themselves, but I am not referring to contraception.
A hopefully nuanced and well reasoned Catholic. If I am not well reasoned, please inform me.


Terrorized by an enby and their nekos on the rmb.

User avatar
The Anti-Delegate
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5386
Founded: Dec 11, 2024
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The Anti-Delegate » Wed Feb 11, 2026 9:31 pm

Vakhgala wrote:
Merien wrote:
Being homosexual is natural too then.

S3x in biology is to make offspring, and you cant do that in homosexuality

you can, actually
c4t or t4t in certain cases
OΔO !
ὣ

Discord: goose3628
(i lost access to my old account, damn multi-factor authentication)

User avatar
Vile Island
Diplomat
 
Posts: 719
Founded: Oct 29, 2005
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Vile Island » Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:40 pm

I reconcile me being Non-binary with the parable of the good Samaritan. It is not always you expect are good people. Even those most shunned by society are the ones who are good. The Bible teaches us to welcome the stranger. Key word strange. Being LGBTQIA+ is exactly the ones who are to be welcomed. It is their sins that makes them the last who will be first. I do not agree that the Bible teaches us to hate LGBTQIA+ people. When they are exactly the ones that are to be welcomed.
Non-binary: they/them.

User avatar
Humanlonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5270
Founded: Oct 30, 2025
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Humanlonia » Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:27 am

Love Peace and Friendship wrote:
Magna-Parva wrote:See, the first bit didn't happen and the second bit spreads disease and poverty and is a bad idea. We should live our lives in the real world.

I mean, I guess children could spread disease, but I don't think that should be a primary consideration when deciding if to try for a child, if you are willing to vaccinate your child and provide them with the medical treatment and clinical visits necessary for them to ensure a healthy life.

The world is overpopulated, and bringing a person into a world of suffering is unethical.

User avatar
New Westmore
Diplomat
 
Posts: 508
Founded: Jul 21, 2022
Democratic Socialists

Postby New Westmore » Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:29 am

Vile Island wrote:I reconcile me being Non-binary with the parable of the good Samaritan. It is not always you expect are good people. Even those most shunned by society are the ones who are good. The Bible teaches us to welcome the stranger. Key word strange. Being LGBTQIA+ is exactly the ones who are to be welcomed. It is their sins that makes them the last who will be first. I do not agree that the Bible teaches us to hate LGBTQIA+ people. When they are exactly the ones that are to be welcomed.

I absolutely adore this take. We need more people like you in the world.
I am the way and the truth.
Whoever believes in me will live,
even though he dies. And everyone
who believes in me shall never die.

Rest in peace to my dad, the strongest man
I ever knew.
███ | Democratic Republic of New Westmore
Learn more about me, the user behind the nation

User avatar
Merien
Envoy
 
Posts: 267
Founded: Nov 06, 2023
Democratic Socialists

Postby Merien » Thu Feb 12, 2026 6:05 am

Vrijlanden wrote:
Merien wrote:I spent some time thinking about it and realized I'm bisexual. Would rather go to Hell being me than going to Heaven for someone else's idea of who I should be. Woman in my life told me she was going back to church so I suppose I go there. No time for religion who doesn't accept me.

Are you from the Northern Territory?


No.
Merien!!!

Democratic Socialist, Shī‘at Ahl al-Bayt al-Ithna ‘Ashariyyah or better known as a Twelver Shia Muslim, if I speak in a different manner not aligning myself with either I am probably having a BPD episode.
Democratic Socialist federal state situated in the Region That Has No Big Banks

User avatar
Marinixa
Envoy
 
Posts: 286
Founded: Feb 07, 2026
Ex-Nation

Postby Marinixa » Thu Feb 12, 2026 10:31 am

If the excuse against gay people is "they cannot bring life," we should be also restricting people who have sex with Postmenopausal AFABs
The Democratic Republic of Marinixa is a South American nation located south of the Tandilia Mountains, renowned for it's beaches, it's extensively rural economy and it's petrochemical industry. It is currently recovering from an economically disastrous dictatorship, though hopes are higher than ever as the economy is slowly stabilizing.
«If I gave up on being pretty I wouldn't know how to be alive. I should move to a brand new city and teach myself how to die.»
«I know what I like. No, this is not a phase or a coming of age, this will never change»
«And the day has come where I have died only to find I’ve come alive.»

User avatar
Vakhgala
Attaché
 
Posts: 88
Founded: Dec 31, 2024
Ex-Nation

Postby Vakhgala » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:08 pm

Marinixa wrote:
Vakhgala wrote:S3x in biology is to make offspring, and you cant do that in homosexuality

So what about casual sex between heterosexual people? Also what about infertile people?

S3x between heterosexual people is not sinful unless it's outside marriage.
Infertility is not a sin, and that portion of the populace is very small

User avatar
Vakhgala
Attaché
 
Posts: 88
Founded: Dec 31, 2024
Ex-Nation

Postby Vakhgala » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:09 pm

Vile Island wrote:I reconcile me being Non-binary with the parable of the good Samaritan. It is not always you expect are good people. Even those most shunned by society are the ones who are good. The Bible teaches us to welcome the stranger. Key word strange. Being LGBTQIA+ is exactly the ones who are to be welcomed. It is their sins that makes them the last who will be first. I do not agree that the Bible teaches us to hate LGBTQIA+ people. When they are exactly the ones that are to be welcomed.

Welcome the stranger, not the sin :D

User avatar
Eieryn
Diplomat
 
Posts: 599
Founded: Aug 25, 2025
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Eieryn » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:13 pm

Vakhgala wrote:
Marinixa wrote:So what about casual sex between heterosexual people? Also what about infertile people?

S3x between heterosexual people is not sinful unless it's outside marriage.
Infertility is not a sin, and that portion of the populace is very small

Then why would homosexuality be sinful ? After all, homosexual people can marry too.
Population: 133 million | Political parties and current legislature | Other factbooks | Q&A of Eieryn
Democratic, socialist and secular nation
I AM PRO-TOLERANCE ! PRO-DEMOCRACY ! AND PRO-FREEDOM ! IF THIS MAKES ME WOKE, THEN SO BE IT !
I am also atheist, socialist (but not communist), and first of all a proud etceterist, because I cannot put everything here.
Pronouns : he/him, but they/them is also fine.

The Democratic Republic of Eieryn
Former President and WA Delegate of the UEPU Federal Republic
Current Speaker of the Parliament of the UEPU Federal Republic

User avatar
Humanlonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5270
Founded: Oct 30, 2025
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Humanlonia » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:24 pm

Eieryn wrote:
Vakhgala wrote:S3x between heterosexual people is not sinful unless it's outside marriage.
Infertility is not a sin, and that portion of the populace is very small

Then why would homosexuality be sinful ? After all, homosexual people can marry too.

Obviously, because the Apostle Paul said so.

User avatar
Vrijlanden
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 193
Founded: Oct 24, 2025
Ex-Nation

Postby Vrijlanden » Thu Feb 12, 2026 4:40 pm

Marinixa wrote:
Vakhgala wrote:S3x in biology is to make offspring, and you cant do that in homosexuality

So what about casual sex between heterosexual people? Also what about infertile people?

It's also not okay, but it's still normal

User avatar
Marinixa
Envoy
 
Posts: 286
Founded: Feb 07, 2026
Ex-Nation

Postby Marinixa » Thu Feb 12, 2026 5:54 pm

Vrijlanden wrote:
Marinixa wrote:So what about casual sex between heterosexual people? Also what about infertile people?

It's also not okay, but it's still normal

Why is it "normal"? Is gay sex not normal?
The Democratic Republic of Marinixa is a South American nation located south of the Tandilia Mountains, renowned for it's beaches, it's extensively rural economy and it's petrochemical industry. It is currently recovering from an economically disastrous dictatorship, though hopes are higher than ever as the economy is slowly stabilizing.
«If I gave up on being pretty I wouldn't know how to be alive. I should move to a brand new city and teach myself how to die.»
«I know what I like. No, this is not a phase or a coming of age, this will never change»
«And the day has come where I have died only to find I’ve come alive.»

User avatar
Mazakena
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 485
Founded: Sep 21, 2025
Corporate Bordello

Postby Mazakena » Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:36 am

Marinixa wrote:
Vrijlanden wrote:It's also not okay, but it's still normal

Why is it "normal"? Is gay sex not normal?

No it's not normal

User avatar
Vile Island
Diplomat
 
Posts: 719
Founded: Oct 29, 2005
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Vile Island » Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:42 am

Mazakena wrote:
Marinixa wrote:Why is it "normal"? Is gay sex not normal?

No it's not normal


It's normal. Even animals practice homosexuality. Why would God allow this to happen?
Non-binary: they/them.

User avatar
Inkraiya
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 106
Founded: Oct 27, 2025
New York Times Democracy

Postby Inkraiya » Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:47 am

There was a NS issue where protesters were picketing outside a bookstore or smth and the protestors were asking for homosexuality ban and asking for 1 true faith. I clicked that option and my civil rights plummeted down. I eventually reversed banning it and stopped being a theocracy but my civil rights didnt recover and its always low now :(
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

User avatar
Mazakena
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 485
Founded: Sep 21, 2025
Corporate Bordello

Postby Mazakena » Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:47 am

Vile Island wrote:
Mazakena wrote:No it's not normal


It's normal. Even animals practice homosexuality. Why would God allow this to happen?

I'm not going to argue with you over this, but God created the world in perfection, and the sin of man has slowly eroded and destroyed the earth, homosexuality is an evil and an example of how sin has destroyed the earth, and even not from a biblical point of view, homos can't have kids, so not very natural, and they have the same body parts sooo....

User avatar
Staidear
Envoy
 
Posts: 266
Founded: Apr 19, 2015
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Staidear » Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:53 am

Mazakena wrote:~snip~


So people who cannot have kids are not natural and evil?

Also, perhaps we don't use "homos" hm?
She/Her
Fascism is what happens when you abandon Basic Human Empathy
TERF ideology originates here
TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
Community Manager of ➲eclansburg
Maybe Posadas was right

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ci Arovannea, Dumb Ideologies, Google Adsense [Bot], Greater Britannian Realm, Maraganta, New Faith, Northern Socialist Council Republics, Oceasia, Punctured Hopes, Yorsa II

Advertisement

Remove ads