American Politics: TACOs in Teheran

[Northern Steakia]

Been in south Africa you can still se the effects of the apartheid today some people live in houses they can’t be in for certain hours because it’s to hot alums are still everywhere and even outside Cape Town there’s similar situations with the people who pick grapes to make the wine it is still a very economical divided country.

Yeah of course. The fall of apartheid didn't just magically eradicate all inequalities and economic disparities, bulldoze townships, and create equality for all South Africans. But it gave everyone equal opportunities, that are now being erased for the white minority. Yet the way forward is through equality of opportunity for all races, and not just for one select race.
I mean, the ANC government in power now is in itself a little "reverse apartheid" you could say.

Ah yes because the ANC is totally sending white people into Boerstans to create a black ethnostate mm yes 100%

[Perishna]

Oh sorry I wasn't counting Khoisan populations as "black" there - I assume you're not all that familiar with South African history but to compare it to American terms, they Khoisan are kind of like Native Americans in a way. And now there's very little of them left. Now, just like in America, the country is predominantly white or black or colored (the correct term for mixed race, it's not derogatory like it is in the US).

Thank you for your answer
Yeah, so I see that the Khoisan were hunter gatherers in the eastern part.

But what about the bantu? Who mostly resides in the west?
Well, from what ive found, the short answee is that theyre not native to that area.
Okay, let me explain: from circa 2nd millennium BC, the first bantu people migrated from their Urheimat in perhaps around Nigeria-Cameroun (we re not sure exactly from where).
However, according to this they had reached SA by 300-500 AD. That is at least 1000 years before the DEIC and Cape Town.

Btw, could you please present your source for that 8/9 thing?

[San Lumen]

Been in south Africa you can still se the effects of the apartheid today some people live in houses they can’t be in for certain hours because it’s to hot alums are still everywhere and even outside Cape Town there’s similar situations with the people who pick grapes to make the wine it is still a very economical divided country.

Yeah of course. The fall of apartheid didn't just magically eradicate all inequalities and economic disparities, bulldoze townships, and create equality for all South Africans. But it gave everyone equal opportunities, that are now being erased for the white minority. Yet the way forward is through equality of opportunity for all races, and not just for one select race.
I mean, the ANC government in power now is in itself a little "reverse apartheid" you could say.

BS. How awful the people of South Africa chose the system of government they wanted in a free and fair election.

Im not surprised you think buy into the white prosecution nonsense. I think you simply don;t like that places like Minneapolis are majority non white,

You are ok with brutalizing non white people because they have accents on the suspicion they might be illegals because you're a racist.

[Andso Mangis]

Been in south Africa you can still se the effects of the apartheid today some people live in houses they can’t be in for certain hours because it’s to hot alums are still everywhere and even outside Cape Town there’s similar situations with the people who pick grapes to make the wine it is still a very economical divided country.

Yeah of course. The fall of apartheid didn't just magically eradicate all inequalities and economic disparities, bulldoze townships, and create equality for all South Africans. But it gave everyone equal opportunities, that are now being erased for the white minority. Yet the way forward is through equality of opportunity for all races, and not just for one select race.
I mean, the ANC government in power now is in itself a little "reverse apartheid" you could say.

I’m saying economic disparity is still at a extreme I don’t know about the gov to much however I know that trying to help the country grow and help a vast majority of the populace actually be able to afford basic human things instead of helping the Elon musks and the wine sellers.

[Tarsonis]

Been in south Africa you can still se the effects of the apartheid today some people live in houses they can’t be in for certain hours because it’s to hot alums are still everywhere and even outside Cape Town there’s similar situations with the people who pick grapes to make the wine it is still a very economical divided country.

Yeah of course. The fall of apartheid didn't just magically eradicate all inequalities and economic disparities, bulldoze townships, and create equality for all South Africans. But it gave everyone equal opportunities, that are now being erased for the white minority. Yet the way forward is through equality of opportunity for all races, and not just for one select race.
I mean, the ANC government in power now is in itself a little "reverse apartheid" you could say.

So you don't think white people should have to endure any sacrifice to offset the effects of apartheid, but you think minorities need to suffer through generational poverty.

[Caribbia]

Yeah of course. The fall of apartheid didn't just magically eradicate all inequalities and economic disparities, bulldoze townships, and create equality for all South Africans. But it gave everyone equal opportunities, that are now being erased for the white minority. Yet the way forward is through equality of opportunity for all races, and not just for one select race.
I mean, the ANC government in power now is in itself a little "reverse apartheid" you could say.

Ah yes because the ANC is totally sending white people into Boerstans to create a black ethnostate mm yes 100%

You can't compare the modern-day socioeconomic situation in South Africa for whites to Bantustans for blacks years back. It's much easier to get involved in society if you have money, connections, and well.. don't live in a township.
So in that sense it's a lot more subtle than the outwardly discriminatory apartheid government of SA. Nevertheless, the legalized racism is there and it exists. It remains a fact that there were less racial laws in SA during apartheid's peak than there are now, and by a significant margin. Keeping in mind the vast majority of apartheid-era laws have long been repealed. So no, these are not things to be treated negligibly.

[San Lumen]

Ah yes because the ANC is totally sending white people into Boerstans to create a black ethnostate mm yes 100%

You can't compare the modern-day socioeconomic situation in South Africa for whites to Bantustans for blacks years back. It's much easier to get involved in society if you have money, connections, and well.. don't live in a township.
So in that sense it's a lot more subtle than the outwardly discriminatory apartheid government of SA. Nevertheless, the legalized racism is there and it exists. It remains a fact that there were less racial laws in SA during apartheid's peak than there are now, and by a significant margin. Keeping in mind the vast majority of apartheid-era laws have long been repealed. So no, these are not things to be treated negligibly.

oh yes how terrible the majority demographic of the population gets to govern.

[Caribbia]

Yeah of course. The fall of apartheid didn't just magically eradicate all inequalities and economic disparities, bulldoze townships, and create equality for all South Africans. But it gave everyone equal opportunities, that are now being erased for the white minority. Yet the way forward is through equality of opportunity for all races, and not just for one select race.
I mean, the ANC government in power now is in itself a little "reverse apartheid" you could say.

BS. How awful the people of South Africa chose the system of government they wanted in a free and fair election.

Im not surprised you think buy into the white prosecution nonsense. I think you simply don;t like that places like Minneapolis are majority non white,

You are ok with brutalizing non white people because they have accents on the suspicion they might be illegals because you're a racist.

Three things.
1. 1994 was not a free and fair election, as about 70% of the country suddenly became legally permitted to vote, which completely 180ed the political landscape of the country and the blacks united - and now we have a government in South Africa that is simply anti-white. The ANC being elected in 1994 can be compared to the formative years of apartheid - one ethnic group uniting against the other.
2. Minneapolis is fine. I don't mind the racial mix, as long as everyone is legal, it's great to celebrate and share different cultures! Especially when there are no race laws that would restrict white Minnesotans from pretty much everything in one way or another
3. I am NOT okay with brutalizing people solely because of their race, accent, or both. Remember, people with foreign accents and/or of a foreign race CAN be legal!

[Tarsonis]

Ah yes because the ANC is totally sending white people into Boerstans to create a black ethnostate mm yes 100%

You can't compare the modern-day socioeconomic situation in South Africa for whites to Bantustans for blacks years back. It's much easier to get involved in society if you have money, connections, and well.. don't live in a township.

"It's easy to get ahead if you have those things that were denied to you for generations on account of your race"

[Magna-Parva]

BS. How awful the people of South Africa chose the system of government they wanted in a free and fair election.

Im not surprised you think buy into the white prosecution nonsense. I think you simply don;t like that places like Minneapolis are majority non white,

You are ok with brutalizing non white people because they have accents on the suspicion they might be illegals because you're a racist.

Three things.
1. 1994 was not a free and fair election, as about 70% of the country suddenly became legally permitted to vote, which completely 180ed the political landscape of the country and the blacks united - and now we have a government in South Africa that is simply anti-white. The ANC being elected in 1994 can be compared to the formative years of apartheid - one ethnic group uniting against the other.

There may have been bloc voting at play, but it still meets the definition of a "free and fair" election.

[Caribbia]

Yeah of course. The fall of apartheid didn't just magically eradicate all inequalities and economic disparities, bulldoze townships, and create equality for all South Africans. But it gave everyone equal opportunities, that are now being erased for the white minority. Yet the way forward is through equality of opportunity for all races, and not just for one select race.
I mean, the ANC government in power now is in itself a little "reverse apartheid" you could say.

So you don't think white people should have to endure any sacrifice to offset the effects of apartheid, but you think minorities need to suffer through generational poverty.

Well I don't see how it's fair to white South Africans, plain and simple. I was born and raised here in the US, so I can't attest to this personally, but had my parents not moved from South Africa before I was born, I would have been born after the end of apartheid. So why should I suffer if I never benefitted from it nor supported or contributed to it? This is the reality many white south africans face today

[Northern Steakia]

BS. How awful the people of South Africa chose the system of government they wanted in a free and fair election.

Im not surprised you think buy into the white prosecution nonsense. I think you simply don;t like that places like Minneapolis are majority non white,

You are ok with brutalizing non white people because they have accents on the suspicion they might be illegals because you're a racist.

Three things.
1. 1994 was not a free and fair election, as about 70% of the country suddenly became legally permitted to vote, which completely 180ed the political landscape of the country and the blacks united - and now we have a government in South Africa that is simply anti-white. The ANC being elected in 1994 can be compared to the formative years of apartheid - one ethnic group uniting against the other.
2. Minneapolis is fine. I don't mind the racial mix, as long as everyone is legal, it's great to celebrate and share different cultures! Especially when there are no race laws that would restrict white Minnesotans from pretty much everything in one way or another
3. I am NOT okay with brutalizing people solely because of their race, accent, or both. Remember, people with foreign accents and/or of a foreign race CAN be legal!

1994 wasn't a free and fair election because GASP BLACKS COULD VOTE???!!! THE HORROR

[San Lumen]

BS. How awful the people of South Africa chose the system of government they wanted in a free and fair election.

Im not surprised you think buy into the white prosecution nonsense. I think you simply don;t like that places like Minneapolis are majority non white,

You are ok with brutalizing non white people because they have accents on the suspicion they might be illegals because you're a racist.

Three things.
1. 1994 was not a free and fair election, as about 70% of the country suddenly became legally permitted to vote, which completely 180ed the political landscape of the country and the blacks united - and now we have a government in South Africa that is simply anti-white. The ANC being elected in 1994 can be compared to the formative years of apartheid - one ethnic group uniting against the other.
2. Minneapolis is fine. I don't mind the racial mix, as long as everyone is legal, it's great to celebrate and share different cultures! Especially when there are no race laws that would restrict white Minnesotans from pretty much everything in one way or another
3. I am NOT okay with brutalizing people solely because of their race, accent, or both. Remember, people with foreign accents and/or of a foreign race CAN be legal!

1994 was the literal definition of a free and fair election. You simply don;t like the majority of the population got to participate.

yet you defend the actions of ICE, called those with accents are more likely to be illegal and are seemingly fine with everyone the Gestapo has done. Your ingore the evidence its not one time thing. They are systematically targeting anyone non white. I wouldn't be shocked if they detain the mayor of St Paul because she's Hmong.

You contradict yourself.

[Caribbia]

Three things.
1. 1994 was not a free and fair election, as about 70% of the country suddenly became legally permitted to vote, which completely 180ed the political landscape of the country and the blacks united - and now we have a government in South Africa that is simply anti-white. The ANC being elected in 1994 can be compared to the formative years of apartheid - one ethnic group uniting against the other.

There may have been bloc voting at play, but it still meets the definition of a "free and fair" election.

That's a fair point, I concur. It's just a huge difference in politics in such a short span of time though hey?

[Magna-Parva]

There may have been bloc voting at play, but it still meets the definition of a "free and fair" election.

That's a fair point, I concur. It's just a huge difference in politics in such a short span of time though hey?

You mean "suddenly we actually had a democratic election"? Yes, that is a huge difference. A huge leap to the better.

[Caribbia]

Three things.
1. 1994 was not a free and fair election, as about 70% of the country suddenly became legally permitted to vote, which completely 180ed the political landscape of the country and the blacks united - and now we have a government in South Africa that is simply anti-white. The ANC being elected in 1994 can be compared to the formative years of apartheid - one ethnic group uniting against the other.
2. Minneapolis is fine. I don't mind the racial mix, as long as everyone is legal, it's great to celebrate and share different cultures! Especially when there are no race laws that would restrict white Minnesotans from pretty much everything in one way or another
3. I am NOT okay with brutalizing people solely because of their race, accent, or both. Remember, people with foreign accents and/or of a foreign race CAN be legal!

1994 was the literal definition of a free and fair election. You simply don;t like the majority of the population got to participate.

yet you defend the actions of ICE, called those with accents are more likely to be illegal and are seemingly fine with everyone the Gestapo has done. Your ingore the evidence its not one time thing. They are systematically targeting anyone non white. I wouldn't be shocked if they detain the mayor of St Paul because she's Hmong.

You contradict yourself.

You're writing this based purely off assumptions. Give me one good legal reason why ICE could deport the Hmong? And no, "being Hmong" does not count as a good legal reason.

[Andso Mangis]

So you don't think white people should have to endure any sacrifice to offset the effects of apartheid, but you think minorities need to suffer through generational poverty.

Well I don't see how it's fair to white South Africans, plain and simple. I was born and raised here in the US, so I can't attest to this personally, but had my parents not moved from South Africa before I was born, I would have been born after the end of apartheid. So why should I suffer if I never benefitted from it nor supported or contributed to it? This is the reality many white south africans face today

You would’ve definitely benefited from it a chance to have a actual education not be raised in poverty.Had a better chance of a making a livable income own a business and live a life that has multiple benefits that a average South American would have a had a way less chance and opportunity to have.

[San Lumen]

1994 was the literal definition of a free and fair election. You simply don;t like the majority of the population got to participate.

yet you defend the actions of ICE, called those with accents are more likely to be illegal and are seemingly fine with everyone the Gestapo has done. Your ingore the evidence its not one time thing. They are systematically targeting anyone non white. I wouldn't be shocked if they detain the mayor of St Paul because she's Hmong.

You contradict yourself.

You're writing this based purely off assumptions. Give me one good legal reason why ICE could deport the Hmong? And no, "being Hmong" does not count as a good legal reason.

That is literally what they are doing. They are targeting anyone non white.

[Magna-Parva]

You're writing this based purely off assumptions. Give me one good legal reason why ICE could deport the Hmong? And no, "being Hmong" does not count as a good legal reason.

That is literally what they are doing. They are targeting anyone non white.

Given this, yes, that is literally what they are doing.

[Pale Dawn]

Yeah of course. The fall of apartheid didn't just magically eradicate all inequalities and economic disparities, bulldoze townships, and create equality for all South Africans. But it gave everyone equal opportunities, that are now being erased for the white minority. Yet the way forward is through equality of opportunity for all races, and not just for one select race.
I mean, the ANC government in power now is in itself a little "reverse apartheid" you could say.

So you don't think white people should have to endure any sacrifice to offset the effects of apartheid, but you think minorities need to suffer through generational poverty.

What an absurd suggestion. Guilt does notpass through blood and race based forced charity is immoral.

[San Lumen]

That is literally what they are doing. They are targeting anyone non white.

Given this, yes, that is literally what they are doing.

Because they are racist hacks who should be impeached.

[Caribbia]

Well I don't see how it's fair to white South Africans, plain and simple. I was born and raised here in the US, so I can't attest to this personally, but had my parents not moved from South Africa before I was born, I would have been born after the end of apartheid. So why should I suffer if I never benefitted from it nor supported or contributed to it? This is the reality many white south africans face today

You would’ve definitely benefited from it a chance to have a actual education not be raised in poverty.Had a better chance of a making a livable income own a business and live a life that has multiple benefits that a average South American would have a had a way less chance and opportunity to have.

Oh definitely! I mean, if you have money, SA is one of the best places in the world to live, and you achieve a standard of living arguably better than in the US. I've lived in Cape Town before, and SA is a fantastic place to live. IF you're not underprivileged. So yeah you're right.

[Northern Steakia]

So you don't think white people should have to endure any sacrifice to offset the effects of apartheid, but you think minorities need to suffer through generational poverty.

What an absurd suggestion. Guilt does notpass through blood and forced charity is immoral.

Ah, yes, it's forced charity to, uhh, give Black people the land back that White people had stolen
Also, what a wonderful way to say "I don't think the government should help people"

[Tarsonis]

So you don't think white people should have to endure any sacrifice to offset the effects of apartheid, but you think minorities need to suffer through generational poverty.

Well I don't see how it's fair to white South Africans, plain and simple. I was born and raised here in the US, so I can't attest to this personally, but had my parents not moved from South Africa before I was born, I would have been born after the end of apartheid. So why should I suffer if I never benefitted from it nor supported or contributed to it? This is the reality many white south africans face today

Well you do benefit even if not directly, your family had the resources to move, access to good schools, good jobs, etc etc, stuff that were denied to minorities for generations. So why should minorities continue to reap all the negative material affects of apartheid/, while whites continue reap all the material benefits?

[Caribbia]

That is literally what they are doing. They are targeting anyone non white.

Given this, yes, that is literally what they are doing.

Yeah it's a bit like a police state hey? Having to carry your passport around at all times if you're latino. That's how you filter the Americans from the illegals though!