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What best sums up your 'optimal position' on abortion?

Freely available.
110
39%
Available, but discouraged.
14
5%
Available, with social programs / incentives for keeping pregnancies.
25
9%
Available until >insert deadline here<, but only emergencies after!
33
12%
Outlawed unless X conditions are met. (medical emergencies, incest, etc)
48
17%
Outlawed!
15
5%
Outlawed, and a capital crime, to boot!
18
6%
The Tleilaxu Did Nothing Wrong!
17
6%
 
Total votes : 280

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Postby Los Enquirers » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:52 am

Humanlonia wrote:
Los Enquirers wrote:
Yes i can so long as im not bringing it up and are still treating them with blatant human decency like any other individual

It looks like you still can't.


so in order to sit there and not put them down I am required to endorse their lifestyle and have to treat them like they are kings instead of just ignoring it and treating them equivalent to other people? Yeah nah imma stick with the latter option.
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Postby Ci Arovannea » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:53 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Humanlonia wrote:It looks like you still can't.


so in order to sit there and not put them down I am required to endorse their lifestyle

First mistake. It's not a "lifestyle".
and have to treat them like they are kings

We're asking to be treated like fellow human beings.
instead of just ignoring it and treating them equivalent to other people? Yeah nah imma stick with the latter option.

Something you evidently just failed to do by calling it a "lifestyle".
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Postby The Dark Aether » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:53 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Humanlonia wrote:It looks like you still can't.


so in order to sit there and not put them down I am required to endorse their lifestyle and have to treat them like they are kings instead of just ignoring it and treating them equivalent to other people? Yeah nah imma stick with the latter option.

Nobody is telling you that, just respect people who are apart of the LGBTQ community and continue living your life
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Postby Untecna » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:53 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Humanlonia wrote:It looks like you still can't.


so in order to sit there and not put them down I am required to endorse their lifestyle and have to treat them like they are kings instead of just ignoring it and treating them equivalent to other people? Yeah nah imma stick with the latter option.

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Postby Humanlonia » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:54 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Humanlonia wrote:It looks like you still can't.


so in order to sit there and not put them down I am required to endorse their lifestyle and have to treat them like they are kings instead of just ignoring it and treating them equivalent to other people? Yeah nah imma stick with the latter option.

Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. And don't kick the stone; no one is asking you to treat random children like royalty.

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Postby Los Enquirers » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:54 am

Ci Arovannea wrote:
Los Enquirers wrote:
can you quote the badmouthing without taking it from context?

pretty sure it was like, half the damn transhumanism thread at LEAST

but yeah this is a lie. you can't be against gay kids and still respect them. it just doesnt math.


so you cant quote it because my posts there where against making humans robots except for three posts which were me defending myself from angry people.

and yes i can i can give them human decency and disagree with their lifestyle choices this isnt that hard to comprehend
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:54 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Ci Arovannea wrote:pretty sure it was like, half the damn transhumanism thread at LEAST

but yeah this is a lie. you can't be against gay kids and still respect them. it just doesnt math.


so you cant quote it because my posts there where against making humans robots except for three posts which were me defending myself from angry people.

and yes i can i can give them human decency and disagree with their lifestyle choices this isnt that hard to comprehend

"lifestyle choices" it's not a choice, bozo.
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Postby Humanlonia » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:55 am

Untecna wrote:
Los Enquirers wrote:
so in order to sit there and not put them down I am required to endorse their lifestyle and have to treat them like they are kings instead of just ignoring it and treating them equivalent to other people? Yeah nah imma stick with the latter option.

You trying to dig to China? Because this hole is getting deep.

Have no bottom, there is nothing to break through

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Postby Los Enquirers » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:55 am

Crysuko wrote:
Los Enquirers wrote:
so you cant quote it because my posts there where against making humans robots except for three posts which were me defending myself from angry people.

and yes i can i can give them human decency and disagree with their lifestyle choices this isnt that hard to comprehend

"lifestyle choices" it's not a choice, bozo.


pretty sure you choose to be gay or to be trans

same way you choose to be straight
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Wenn du dich entschieden hast, das zu übersetzen, um wiederzugeben, was ich gesagt habe, hast du gerade 10 Sekunden deiner Zeit verschwendet, also … ja.

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Postby DutchFormosa » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:56 am

So uh, abortion, yeah?
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Postby The Dark Aether » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:56 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Crysuko wrote:"lifestyle choices" it's not a choice, bozo.


pretty sure you choose to be gay or to be trans

Being gay or trans is about identity

Also can we get back on topic?
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Postby Ci Arovannea » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:56 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Ci Arovannea wrote:pretty sure it was like, half the damn transhumanism thread at LEAST

but yeah this is a lie. you can't be against gay kids and still respect them. it just doesnt math.


so you cant quote it because my posts there where against making humans robots except for three posts which were me defending myself from angry people.

Gaslighting isn't bread, stop gorging yourself on it.

and yes i can i can give them human decency and disagree with their lifestyle choices

It's not a friggin "choice" for fuck's sake. I didn't choose to be pan or nonbinary!
this isnt that hard to comprehend

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Postby Los Enquirers » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:56 am

The Dark Aether wrote:
Los Enquirers wrote:
pretty sure you choose to be gay or to be trans

Being gay or trans is about identity


yeah. the identity you choose
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:57 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Crysuko wrote:"lifestyle choices" it's not a choice, bozo.


pretty sure you choose to be gay or to be trans

same way you choose to be straight

No, you do not. I didn't choose to be straight. Someone else didn't choose to be gay or trans or w/e.
But that's for a different thread.
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Postby Untecna » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:57 am

Hey, guys, this is the Abortion Thread. Let's keep it on topic.
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Postby Los Enquirers » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:58 am

Ci Arovannea wrote:
Los Enquirers wrote:
so you cant quote it because my posts there where against making humans robots except for three posts which were me defending myself from angry people.

Gaslighting isn't bread, stop gorging yourself on it.

and yes i can i can give them human decency and disagree with their lifestyle choices

It's not a friggin "choice" for fuck's sake. I didn't choose to be pan or nonbinary!
this isnt that hard to comprehend

-.-

So half that was me quoting someone, yes you did you wherent born pansexual its a choice you make later in life
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Postby The Dark Aether » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:59 am

Untecna wrote:Hey, guys, this is the Abortion Thread. Let's keep it on topic.

Yeah move the LGBTQ stuff to their own threads, can we get back on topic?
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Postby Tevetara » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:59 am

Untecna wrote:Hey, guys, this is the Abortion Thread. Let's keep it on topic.

Honestly, at this point, someone should make a meme regarding NSG evolution. "There is only one step. And it is trans" kinda thing. Transinization is how I refer to it.
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Ci Arovannea wrote:Gaslighting isn't bread, stop gorging yourself on it.


It's not a friggin "choice" for fuck's sake. I didn't choose to be pan or nonbinary!

-.-

So half that was me quoting someone, yes you did you wherent born pansexual its a choice you make later in life

I tell you, if they COULD choose, they would choose to be straight. Why would someone choose to be way more discriminated against?
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Postby Los Enquirers » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:59 am

But still i stand on my original point. Rape babies are babies, and they dont deserve to be murdered just like any other child
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Postby Cleptonia » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:00 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Ci Arovannea wrote:pretty sure it was like, half the damn transhumanism thread at LEAST

but yeah this is a lie. you can't be against gay kids and still respect them. it just doesnt math.


so you cant quote it because my posts there where against making humans robots except for three posts which were me defending myself from angry people.

and yes i can i can give them human decency and disagree with their lifestyle choices this isnt that hard to comprehend

You don't even believe in human decency for a rape victim. There is no reason to believe you'd do so for anyone else. This is top tier tugging of the heart strings type virtue signaling concealing a completely and utterly irredeemable monster underneath. Keep your American conservatism in America and do not come to Europe.
Los Enquirers wrote:But still i stand on my original point. Rape babies are babies, and they dont deserve to be murdered just like any other child

Babies are still born. Life still begins at birth. Birth is still a prerequisite for infancy.
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Postby Untecna » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:00 am

Los Enquirers wrote:
Ci Arovannea wrote:Gaslighting isn't bread, stop gorging yourself on it.


It's not a friggin "choice" for fuck's sake. I didn't choose to be pan or nonbinary!

-.-

So half that was me quoting someone, yes you did you wherent born pansexual its a choice you make later in life

If you want to continue being completely wrong about sexuality and gender identity, at least take it to the correct thread.
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Postby DutchFormosa » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:00 am

Los Enquirers wrote:But still i stand on my original point. Rape babies are babies, and they dont deserve to be murdered just like any other child

How many times do we have to remind you abortion isn't murder?
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Postby Untecna » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:01 am

Los Enquirers wrote:But still i stand on my original point. Rape babies are babies, and they dont deserve to be murdered just like any other child

"I treat all people with decency" and "rape victims should have to be content with rape babies" are two opposite things, Los.
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Postby Los Enquirers » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:03 am

But still i stand on my original point. Rape babies are babies, and they dont deserve to be murdered just like any other child
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Tan no anggan panon et inusar mo met so panaon mo pian ipatalos iya met, mas dakel so nasayang mon panaon mo HAHAHAHA

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Postby Humanlonia » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:03 am

DutchFormosa wrote:
Los Enquirers wrote:But still i stand on my original point. Rape babies are babies, and they dont deserve to be murdered just like any other child

How many times do we have to remind you abortion isn't murder?

I don't agree with this, but I consider abortion to be the same kind of murder as killing a worm.

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