American Politics: Judge Orders Admin to Fund SNAP

[Necroghastia]

Oh? Why do you agree with the premise of educating people less?

I think it should be at a college level

Why?

From the article:

"The allegations go beyond a single confrontation between a protester and a federal agent.

They highlight a growing conflict over how far the federal government can go in enforcing immigration and security operations inside U.S. cities—and how firmly courts can enforce limits on that power."

I like how you copy the article yet miss the word allegation

Yes, because it's a court case, no one has been convicted yet, and media outlets need to be careful with their wording lest they open themselves up to lawsuits.
It also says there's video evidence (that presumably hasn't been publicly released due to court case reasons).

[The Black Forrest]

No it would not. If that was the case, people wouldn’t be moaning about term limits.

Anemic laws would continue. You would never see any serious laws addressing serious issues.

The RNC and the DNC would continue to control things.

I don't know who the "people" moaning about term limits are. It's certainly not me.

"Anemic laws would continue. You would never see any serious laws addressing serious issues."

Then the people need to levy electoral consequences.

Either Democracy works, or it does not. If you do not believe democracy works, then abolishing the executive branch is the least of your worries. That means we are an oligarchy and that a revolutionary civil war is well on the horizon.

What was the old joke about the cure to democracy is a discussion with the average voter.

They really don’t care. We have a sex offender who was convicted of fraud in office. Given a chance he would have a third term. Abolishing the executive branch will not make take an interest in politicians and controlling them. They already have this ability. They don’t care.

The midterms will answer your claim. If a large amount of republicans are gone for failing on their promises…..still I suspect they will just replace them with other versions as they have to own the demos/libs…..

Personally I do not think we are there yet. Legislators ARE open to influence by public opinion and public organization and public outcry. Legislators cannot remain legislators if they don't have the votes no matter how much money is being donated to them, just look at what's happening in NYC and other parts of the country to high dollar establishment politicians at this very moment. Being overcome by populists with small donations. It can be done.

Obama proved small donations can work. Still; he engaged more then what they are doing now. “give us money so we can keep/expand control!”. What about issues? We can address them when we are in control!”

Ideology is the way…….we shall see with the midterms….

[Necroghastia]

Texas Supreme Court rules judges can refuse to marry gay couples on the basis of faith.

As the article points out, this is a deeply troubling ruling given judges are supposed to be impartial parties.

[Daemonkin of Corn]

I don't know who the "people" moaning about term limits are. It's certainly not me.

"Anemic laws would continue. You would never see any serious laws addressing serious issues."

Then the people need to levy electoral consequences.

Either Democracy works, or it does not. If you do not believe democracy works, then abolishing the executive branch is the least of your worries. That means we are an oligarchy and that a revolutionary civil war is well on the horizon.

What was the old joke about the cure to democracy is a discussion with the average voter.

They really don’t care. We have a sex offender who was convicted of fraud in office. Given a chance he would have a third term. Abolishing the executive branch will not make take an interest in politicians and controlling them. They already have this ability. They don’t care.

The midterms will answer your claim. If a large amount of republicans are gone for failing on their promises…..still I suspect they will just replace them with other versions as they have to own the demos/libs…..

Personally I do not think we are there yet. Legislators ARE open to influence by public opinion and public organization and public outcry. Legislators cannot remain legislators if they don't have the votes no matter how much money is being donated to them, just look at what's happening in NYC and other parts of the country to high dollar establishment politicians at this very moment. Being overcome by populists with small donations. It can be done.

Obama proved small donations can work. Still; he engaged more then what they are doing now. “give us money so we can keep/expand control!”. What about issues? We can address them when we are in control!”

Ideology is the way…….we shall see with the midterms….

I didn't realize you were a proponent of civil revolution.

Good for you comrade.

[Stellar Colonies]

SNAP benefits set for first-ever lapse with Senate set to reject funding patches (Politico)
By Jordain Carney and Meredith Lee Hill

GOP leaders want to keep pressure on Democrats for a full reopening of the federal government.

Senate Republicans will block a Democratic bill that would keep federal food aid flowing to 42 million Americans as they try to build pressure to reopen the government, Majority Leader John Thune said Wednesday.

The bill from New Mexico Sen. Ben Ray Luján, which would fund the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and Women, Infants and Children nutrition past Nov. 1, is a “cynical attempt to buy political cover for Democrats to allow them to carry on their government shutdown even longer,” Thune said from the Senate floor.

“We’re not going to let them pick winners and losers,” he added on the 29th day of the government shutdown.

It only takes one senator to object to passing a bill by unanimous consent, as Democrats plan to do in the coming hours. And short of President Donald Trump unilaterally shifting funds — which administration officials say he won’t do — SNAP, formerly known as food stamps, will lapse for the first time in modern history at the end of the week.

Republican Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri, who has offered his own stand-alone SNAP patch, has also said that his proposal will also be blocked from passing unanimously on the floor.

Asked about rejecting the SNAP bills, Thune separately told reporters that if the Senate starts “going down the road of … take care of this group or that group … it just begs the larger question, how long is this going to drag on?”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, meanwhile, pointed the blame for the lapse squarely at Republicans, adding that he would vote for Hawley’s proposal if it was put up for a vote.

“Ask John Thune why he won’t put it on the floor,” he said inside the Senate chamber Wednesday. “He knows there’s broad Republican support for it, and he doesn’t put it on the floor. He’s afraid of Trump. That’s it. He knows better.”

Trump has spoken carefully about the potential SNAP lapse in recent days, however. Asked about the approaching cliff on Air Force One overnight, Trump said, “We’ll get it done” before quickly saying Democrats need to reopen the government. He also suggested Friday that “everybody is going to be in good shape” when asked about the looming deadline.

The food-aid cliff has split Republicans between those who want to make sure the program is funded any way possible and GOP leaders and others who don’t want to ease pressure on Democrats to fully reopen the government.

Thune said he spoke to Trump Tuesday night but that they did not discuss the idea of the administration taking unilateral action on SNAP. Instead, the South Dakota Republican said, what Trump is “saying consistently is, ‘Open up the government.’”

Sen. Susan Collins of Maine is among the Republicans who have urged USDA to shift funding to cover the benefits. With roughly 12 percent of all Mainers relying on the program, a lapse could be a major liability in her race for reelection next year in a blue state.

Democrats and even privately some Republican lawmakers argue the Trump administration has the legal authority to tap a $5 billion contingency fund, or other USDA funds, to ensure SNAP benefits keep flowing during the shutdown. Dozens of Democratic governors and attorneys general have sued the administration over its decision not to tap those funds.

“They need to use it. That’s what it’s there for. If they don’t, they’re inflicting pain upon some of those vulnerable people in the country, and shame on them,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), the top Democrat on the Rules Committee. “I mean, Trump’s not only a lousy president, but he’s a rotten human being.”

Speaker Mike Johnson argued Wednesday that Congress hasn’t authorized the contingency fund and faulted Democrats for voting against a stopgap spending bill that would keep benefits flowing. But even some Republican lawmakers privately note that’s not how the fund works.

“On Saturday, this gets very real,” Johnson said Wednesday. “You’re talking about tens of millions of Americans at risk of going hungry — if Senate Democrats continue this.”

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The bill from New Mexico Sen. Ben Ray Luján, which would fund the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and Women, Infants and Children nutrition past Nov. 1, is a “cynical attempt to buy political cover for Democrats to allow them to carry on their government shutdown even longer,” Thune said from the Senate floor.

“We’re not going to let them pick winners and losers,” he added on the 29th day of the government shutdown.

It only takes one senator to object to passing a bill by unanimous consent, as Democrats plan to do in the coming hours. And short of President Donald Trump unilaterally shifting funds — which administration officials say he won’t do — SNAP, formerly known as food stamps, will lapse for the first time in modern history at the end of the week.
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Democrats and even privately some Republican lawmakers argue the Trump administration has the legal authority to tap a $5 billion contingency fund, or other USDA funds, to ensure SNAP benefits keep flowing during the shutdown. Dozens of Democratic governors and attorneys general have sued the administration over its decision not to tap those funds.
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[Burg land]

I think it should be at a college level

Why?

Because I believe 7 hours is enough already for school, I wouldn't mind about high school clubs tho, we have a club for that over here!

[The Black Forrest]

Kamala needs to give it up.

Well?…….this time she can build her own message. The last election was a fluke. The best person imagined can do very little with four months.

[The Dark Aether]

Texas Supreme Court rules judges can refuse to marry gay couples on the basis of faith.

As the article points out, this is a deeply troubling ruling given judges are supposed to be impartial parties.

This is worrying and it shouldn't be happening at all

[Necroghastia]

Why?

Because I believe 7 hours is enough already for school, I wouldn't mind about high school clubs tho, we have a club for that over here!

Well that's a reason that just doesn't make sense.

Do you really think anyone is proposing adding more school hours, or is it more likely that such topics would be included under existing subjects like social studies and health?

[Burg land]

Texas Supreme Court rules judges can refuse to marry gay couples on the basis of faith.

As the article points out, this is a deeply troubling ruling given judges are supposed to be impartial parties.

I had to read this 5 times to know what you meant lol

[DutchFormosa]

Texas Supreme Court rules judges can refuse to marry gay couples on the basis of faith.

As the article points out, this is a deeply troubling ruling given judges are supposed to be impartial parties.

Didn't Obergefell make that unconstitutional, or do they just not care?

[The Black Forrest]

Texas Supreme Court rules judges can refuse to marry gay couples on the basis of faith.

As the article points out, this is a deeply troubling ruling given judges are supposed to be impartial parties.

Forget it, Necroghastia. It’s Texas.

[Ci Arovannea]

Texas Supreme Court rules judges can refuse to marry gay couples on the basis of faith.

As the article points out, this is a deeply troubling ruling given judges are supposed to be impartial parties.

But it was just overreaction, or so I got told in November...

[Ci Arovannea]

Oh? Why do you agree with the premise of educating people less?

I think it should be at a college level

Why in god's name should it be reserved for an institution that not everyone can even afford to go to?

You do realise that not everyone goes to college right? Why can't they cover this stuff in health classes?

[The Black Forrest]

Texas Supreme Court rules judges can refuse to marry gay couples on the basis of faith.

As the article points out, this is a deeply troubling ruling given judges are supposed to be impartial parties.

Didn't Obergefell make that unconstitutional, or do they just not care?

That’s next on the hit list.

This is probably the setup to get it to the SCOTUS….

[Burg land]

I think it should be at a college level

Why in god's name should it be reserved for an institution that not everyone can even afford to go to?

You do realise that not everyone goes to college right? Why can't they cover this stuff in health classes?

okay, I think health class should be a place to start

[Ci Arovannea]

Why in god's name should it be reserved for an institution that not everyone can even afford to go to?

You do realise that not everyone goes to college right? Why can't they cover this stuff in health classes?

okay, I think health class should be a place to start

Good, so you agree that this is a terrible move designed to allow more misinformation to seep in?

Health classes shouldn't be made to educate less.

[DutchFormosa]

Why in god's name should it be reserved for an institution that not everyone can even afford to go to?

You do realise that not everyone goes to college right? Why can't they cover this stuff in health classes?

okay, I think health class should be a place to start

I don't think you should wait until health class to learn about trans people.

[Slembana]

Texas Supreme Court rules judges can refuse to marry gay couples on the basis of faith.

As the article points out, this is a deeply troubling ruling given judges are supposed to be impartial parties.

Yet another reason to hate Texas.

[Ci Arovannea]

okay, I think health class should be a place to start

I don't think you should wait until health class to learn about trans people.

Alternative solution: Health classes need to span all of K-12.

[Burg land]

okay, I think health class should be a place to start

Good, so you agree that this is a terrible move designed to allow more misinformation to seep in?

Health classes shouldn't be made to educate less.

For a second, I almost thought you meant that homosexuality was misinformation seeping in, and now I need you to elaborate. My brain has been fucked over

[DutchFormosa]

I don't think you should wait until health class to learn about trans people.

Alternative solution: Health classes need to span all of K-12.

That's actually not a bad solution. We shouldn't have kids wait until middle school to learn what their body does.

[Burg land]

I don't think you should wait until health class to learn about trans people.

Alternative solution: Health classes need to span all of K-12.

I don't think teaching kids puberty at kindergarten is a good idea

[Stellar Colonies]

I don't think you should wait until health class to learn about trans people.

Alternative solution: Health classes need to span all of K-12.

Anecdotally, my experience with health class involved a a day or two in middle school going over basic reproductive things with a Q&A and a week in high school introducing us to what an STI is, with me not knowing what “trans gender” meant until independently figuring it out via the Internet in my mid-teens.

So hopefully that’s been improved since.

[DutchFormosa]

Alternative solution: Health classes need to span all of K-12.

I don't think teaching kids puberty at kindergarten is a good idea

She didn't say it had to be solely about puberty.