UK Politics Thread: The Mandelson Effect

[NewAlbion]

Christianity should be protected because it is the national Religion of Britain

You choose to be religious, no religion should be protected, unlike LGBTQ+ which is protected since being queer isn't a choice, and most religions are against LGBTQ+ which is natural, religion isn't natural and goes against natural things such as LGBTQ+.
If your religion infringes on people's rights for now they are born, it shouldn't be protected.

Christianity does not infringe on people's rights; if anything, indoctrinated people of the churches changed it to fit the woke agenda. So, the woke movements have been infringing on the Churches.
In my opinion, Christianity should be protected from insult.

[Sibersky]

You choose to be religious, no religion should be protected, unlike LGBTQ+ which is protected since being queer isn't a choice, and most religions are against LGBTQ+ which is natural, religion isn't natural and goes against natural things such as LGBTQ+.
If your religion infringes on people's rights for now they are born, it shouldn't be protected.

Christianity does not infringe on people's rights; if anything, indoctrinated people of the churches changed it to fit the woke agenda. So, the woke movements have been infringing on the Churches.
In my opinion, Christianity should be protected from insult.

If Christianity should be protected then so should every other religion including Satanism, oh wait that doesn't fit your far right agenda.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Religious organisations need to be subject to regular healthy scrutiny and criticism, that's how you avoid things like child abuse cover ups.

[NewAlbion]

Christianity does not infringe on people's rights; if anything, indoctrinated people of the churches changed it to fit the woke agenda. So, the woke movements have been infringing on the Churches.
In my opinion, Christianity should be protected from insult.

If Christianity should be protected then so should every other religion including Satanism, oh wait that doesn't fit your far right agenda.

No, because we are not a satanic country; we are a Christian country.

[Fartsniffage]

If Christianity should be protected then so should every other religion including Satanism, oh wait that doesn't fit your far right agenda.

No, because we are not a satanic country; we are a Christian country.

But we had Satanic mills?

[Greater Britannian Realm]

Religious organisations need to be subject to regular healthy scrutiny and criticism, that's how you avoid things like child abuse cover ups.

And police forces not enforcing the law against them out of fear of being called either rascist or bigoted/phobic.
And the government then not covering that up.

[Sibersky]

If Christianity should be protected then so should every other religion including Satanism, oh wait that doesn't fit your far right agenda.

No, because we are not a satanic country; we are a Christian country.

It's either protect all religions or protect none

[NewAlbion]

No, because we are not a satanic country; we are a Christian country.

But we had Satanic mills?

they were not accepted though were they?

[NewAlbion]

No, because we are not a satanic country; we are a Christian country.

It's either protect all religions or protect none

I disagree

[Sibersky]

It's either protect all religions or protect none

I disagree

Why though?
If you want Christianity protected let's protect ALL religions.
You complain about the left wanting LGBTQ+ to have extra rights (which isn't true we just want the same rights, except for me I'll keep fighting for extra rights) but when it comes to religious people's rights only Christianity deserved protection? The hypocrisy is insane.

[Dumb Ideologies]

We can keep the holidays and such as part of heritage but Christianity is a background cultural element far more than it is of regular practice and majority genuine belief. We are not a "Christian country" any more than we are a "royalist country" just because people are broadly okay with keeping their background ritual and ceremonial roles around.

[Atrito]

A sensible comment I agree.
All relgions should be critiscised and judged.
None should be protected.

Islamaphobia as a term should not exist.
You can accurantly describe most actual attacks as another form of rascism.

Christianity should be protected because it is the national Religion of Britain

No, it isn't. England is the only part of the UK with a state church

[NewAlbion]

I disagree

Why though?
If you want Christianity protected let's protect ALL religions.
You complain about the left wanting LGBTQ+ to have extra rights (which isn't true we just want the same rights, except for me I'll keep fighting for extra rights) but when it comes to religious people's rights only Christianity deserved protection? The hypocrisy is insane.

"homo supremacist" ?
I think this is all a bit silly

[Almonaster Nuevo]

No, it isn't. England is the only part of the UK with a state church

Ahem

[Slembana]

No, it isn't. England is the only part of the UK with a state church

Ahem

That is our national church, not our state church.

[Greater Britannian Realm]

Ahem

That is our national church, not our state church.

A national church is a state church.
Its arguing semantics.
Sure we no longer enforce mandatory membership of such churches.
But that does not change what they are

[Slembana]

That is our national church, not our state church.

A national church is a state church.
Its arguing semantics.
Sure we no longer enforce mandatory membership of such churches.
But that does not change what they are

No. There is a legal difference.

A national church is a Christian church associated with a specific ethnic group or nation state. The idea was notably discussed during the 19th century, during the emergence of modern nationalism.

[Atrito]

No, it isn't. England is the only part of the UK with a state church

Ahem

Church of Scotland is the national church, not the state church. It has complete independence from the state, in contrast with the CofE, which is merged with the state and subservient to its Head.

edit: i should've scrolled down other's already beat me to it

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Is it still a national church (as in a religion with broad support in the populace) if half of Britain doesn't have a religion, and even a third of the Anglican population doubts that there's such a thing as God?

[Bienenhalde]

Christianity should be protected because it is the national Religion of Britain

You choose to be religious, no religion should be protected, unlike LGBTQ+ which is protected since being queer isn't a choice, and most religions are against LGBTQ+ which is natural, religion isn't natural and goes against natural things such as LGBTQ+.
If your religion infringes on people's rights for now they are born, it shouldn't be protected.

Well, as a religious person, I could also say that atheism shouldn't be protected because atheism is a choice. But is it really a good idea to remove peoples choices when we could have a free and tolerant society instead?

[Tinhampton]

The war on high energy prices has been a conclusive victory in favour of Ofgem, seeing as £1,800 per year is the nation's mental default and one expert interviewed by the BBC has said that it's literally not possible for her to offer energy-saving tips - the exact kind being proferred by many of the non-experts interviewed by the BBC when they're not eating or sleeping - because we're all doing it anyway. The final frontier is those annoying ads on Greatest Hits Radio which keep promising you that you can save hundreds of pounds a year by installing solar panels on your home (a crusade which ScottishPower, of all people, have joined in).

My personal take on this is that putting the heating on is morally licit during Greenwich Mean Time, although I've gone without it before as a matter of pure personal preference. I'm with Olivia if I had to pick an avatar. I'm also now slightly tempted to wear the short suit I haven't worn in a few months to work (with a pair of tights, obviously) as it's no less silly than wearing a skirt suit and just that bit more unusual. As you know, I am a bit unusual myself. Wait why am I using UKPT as my fashion blog

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Meanwhile, the BBC also has new analysis of the fall of Pizza Hut. Pizza Hut is not even getting Little Cheffed out of viability as they've not bothered to contract any celebrity chefs, which makes the Beeb's decision to interview a happy couple at Burger King (we've all seen the Wagyu Burger ads) talking about how they'll get Domino's instead doubly ironic.

It doesn't help that I could in theory get away with wearing a Fulham replica top and a pair of hotpants at PizzaExpress, Pizza Hut and McDonald's alike without anyone judging me. At one of those places, I could dress like Yvette Cooper and not have anyone judge me. The other is ubiquitous and always good for a cheap meal, even today. The third place keeps going into administration, has had a cashless policy since the outbreak of coronavirus with no explanation whatsoever, and actively has to remind people not to post their sides on Instagram because "I'm shy!".

Since you didn't ask, I didn't mind Little Chef, but my husband absolutely HATED them and accordingly welcomed the noughties' proliferation of American brands on the motorway. In general, I certainly have my favourites but tend to be less fussy about what I'm eating than he is, above and beyond my autistic tendency to not eat mushy things on the grounds that food is meant to be actually eaten. (I have eaten multiple times from restaurants that have been given a 1/5 rating from the FSA, and once that I can recall from somewhere that was literally given 0/5, which is just about the one and only aspect in which I'm less risk-averse than my husband. He would literally accept losing one of his fingers while cooking so long as I loved the end product. I am genuinely afraid to peel vegetables, would only accept losing a finger if a dog bit it off, and will normally just put something in the oven.)

[Ariddia]

I dislike all of the abrahamic religions, but I will treat a person regardless of religion with the same respect and compassion as everyone else provided they do the same for me.

This.

Christianity should be protected because it is the national Religion of Britain

The Church of England is the Established Church, not Christianity as a whole. And it's the Established Church in England, not in the United Kingdom as a whole.

Protected from what? It isn't under threat. Except from people ceasing to believe or losing interest, and there's nothing you can do about people thinking for themselves. Only a quarter of British people believe there is a god.

But we had Satanic mills?

they were not accepted though were they?

Had they not been, we would not have had a modern industrial economy.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The UK should be a satanic country, that would be baller

[Imperializt Russia]

The UK should be a satanic country, that would be baller

A Baphomet on every regiment flag.

It would be honest, at least.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The UK should be a satanic country, that would be baller

A Baphomet on every regiment flag.

It would be honest, at least.

Opening every Parliamentary session with this banger: