Middle East Crisis: Israel Says Ceasefire In Effect Again

[Ifreann]

*Israel violates the ceasefire*
*Israel violates the ceasefire*
*Israel violates the ceasefire*
*Israel seemingly abandons the ceasefire and resumes bombings*
"The problem here is both sides"

Israel violates the ceasefires but hamas starts the wars in the first place.
So yes both sides.
Ill never trust a terror state to not commit acts of terror

A plainly irrational sentiment.

[Greater Britannian Realm]

Israel violates the ceasefires but hamas starts the wars in the first place.
So yes both sides.
Ill never trust a terror state to not commit acts of terror

A plainly irrational sentiment.

This recent war was started by hamas committing a massacre on October 7th.
Hamas gave Israel the casus belli for their invasion of gaza.
While this of course gives zero excuse for Israels actions it gave them the reason to send the IDF in the first place.

Hamas are also currently killing their own civilians and fighting bandit gangs as they attempt to rescue their rule despite the ceasefire plan calling for them to have no part in the future government of gaza.

Both sides are wanted by the ICC for their actions with both accused of genocide.
Both sides have blood on their hands.

[Mercov]

We're already seeing the issues with the ceasefire - Israel has no reason to obey it. Trump is unique in his ability to put pressure on Israel, but I don't think it matters anymore. Israel has a surplus of weapons from US deliveries and Germany and the UK still don't seem to be budging away from support of Israel. The ceasefire, or for how long it lasts (it's already breaking down), is good. And Trump did a good thing. Not because he's a good person, but because the Democrats are so fucking bad.

I think the Genocide will resume after this short pause. The only thing that can stop it is Military pressure on Israel. Eg; America should fucking Yugoslavia their asses. Level their nuclear assets and bomb tel aviv and Jerusalem. We recognize when Russia does a invasion and genocide and ethnic cleansing is bad, but when Israel does it? No.

What I'm saying is that peace can only be achieved when Hamas has abrams tanks F-35 fighter jets. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

[Ifreann]

A plainly irrational sentiment.

This recent war was started by hamas committing a massacre on October 7th.
Hamas gave Israel the casus belli for their invasion of gaza.
While this of course gives zero excuse for Israels actions it gave them the reason to send the IDF in the first place.

Hamas are also currently killing their own civilians and fighting bandit gangs as they attempt to rescue their rule despite the ceasefire plan calling for them to have no part in the future government of gaza.

Both sides are wanted by the ICC for their actions with both accused of genocide.
Both sides have blood on their hands.

None of which changes the fact that it is irrational to think that Hamas can never be trusted because they are a "terror state". Terrorism is a tactic that many groups and nations have employed throughout history. It is not solely a practice of insane bloodthirsty psychopaths whose only purpose in life is more terrorism. Contrary to what the American government might tell you as they murder a million Iraqis, terrorists can be negotiated with. Hamas can be negotiated with. They are right now abiding by a ceasefire and negotiating to accomplish a more lasting peace. Whether they can be trusted or not is better assessed by looking at what they actually say and what they actually do than by just blindfolding yourself and repeating that they are terrorists over and over.

[Greater Britannian Realm]

This recent war was started by hamas committing a massacre on October 7th.
Hamas gave Israel the casus belli for their invasion of gaza.
While this of course gives zero excuse for Israels actions it gave them the reason to send the IDF in the first place.

Hamas are also currently killing their own civilians and fighting bandit gangs as they attempt to rescue their rule despite the ceasefire plan calling for them to have no part in the future government of gaza.

Both sides are wanted by the ICC for their actions with both accused of genocide.
Both sides have blood on their hands.

None of which changes the fact that it is irrational to think that Hamas can never be trusted because they are a "terror state". Terrorism is a tactic that many groups and nations have employed throughout history. It is not solely a practice of insane bloodthirsty psychopaths whose only purpose in life is more terrorism. Contrary to what the American government might tell you as they murder a million Iraqis, terrorists can be negotiated with. Hamas can be negotiated with. They are right now abiding by a ceasefire and negotiating to accomplish a more lasting peace. Whether they can be trusted or not is better assessed by looking at what they actually say and what they actually do than by just blindfolding yourself and repeating that they are terrorists over and over.

I would never trust a group that likes to murder its own civilains in the street via public executions.
I would never trust a group that commits a mass killing spree and genocide on unarmed civilians due to them being jewish.
I would never trust a group that has no respect for the west and liberal democracy.
I would never trust a group that started the war.
I would never trust a group that broke ceasefires.

This weird obesstion of whitewashing hamas of its crimes is just as bad as those trying to whitewash israel of its crimes.
israels actions do not automaticaly make hamas the "good guys" in this war.
Infact this war has shown neitherside are the "good guys"

[Oceasia]

Israel to halt supply of aid into Gaza until further notice

Israel will suspend the delivery of aid into Gaza until further notice, several Israeli media outlets reported on Sunday, after the government accused Hamas of violating a ceasefire agreement.

The ceasefire agreement had committed Israel to let in 600 trucks carrying aid into Gaza every day.

It had halved the amount as it accused Hamas of violating the agreement by failing to return all the deceased hostages in time.

It has so far also refused to reopen the key border crossing of Rafah, the only access point that is not exclusively controlled by Israel.

A famine was declared in and around Gaza City by the UN-backed Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) in August after a previous blockade of aid deliveries.

IDF says it has started 'wave of strikes' in southern Gaza

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has "now begun a wave of strikes" in the southern Gaza Strip, it says in a statement.

These are against "terror targets" of Hamas, it says, "following a blatant violation of the ceasefire agreement earlier today".

As a reminder, Hamas has said it is not in contact with any fighters that may remain near Rafah, where the IDF alleges clashes occurred.

It doesn't look good for the ceasefire, to say the least. 9 days of relative calm before Israel shattered it due to conditions they themselves imposed on Gaza.

[Port Carverton]

Israel to halt supply of aid into Gaza until further notice

Israel will suspend the delivery of aid into Gaza until further notice, several Israeli media outlets reported on Sunday, after the government accused Hamas of violating a ceasefire agreement.

The ceasefire agreement had committed Israel to let in 600 trucks carrying aid into Gaza every day.

It had halved the amount as it accused Hamas of violating the agreement by failing to return all the deceased hostages in time.

It has so far also refused to reopen the key border crossing of Rafah, the only access point that is not exclusively controlled by Israel.

A famine was declared in and around Gaza City by the UN-backed Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) in August after a previous blockade of aid deliveries.

IDF says it has started 'wave of strikes' in southern Gaza

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has "now begun a wave of strikes" in the southern Gaza Strip, it says in a statement.

These are against "terror targets" of Hamas, it says, "following a blatant violation of the ceasefire agreement earlier today".

As a reminder, Hamas has said it is not in contact with any fighters that may remain near Rafah, where the IDF alleges clashes occurred.

It doesn't look good for the ceasefire, to say the least. 9 days of relative calm before Israel shattered it due to conditions they themselves imposed on Gaza.

It actually broke because Hamas refuses to give up power. Have people seriously missed the various warnings Trump and Israel gave these past few days?

[East Dolinia]

IDF Spokesperson: The IDF struck dozens of terror targets belonging to the Hamas terror organization in the Gaza Strip

The IDF, led by the Southern Command, attacked in recent hours using fighter jets and aircraft of the Air Force and with artillery, dozens of terror targets belonging to the Hamas terror organization throughout the Gaza Strip, following a violation of the ceasefire agreement earlier today (Sunday).

Among the targets attacked were sites for storing weapons, military infrastructure used by terrorists for terror activity, firing positions, terrorist squads, and additional terror infrastructure.

Additionally, a short time ago, the IDF attacked, using Air Force fighter jets and with more than 120 munitions, an underground route of the Hamas terror organization six kilometers in length. The route was used by the Hamas terror organization to advance terror operations against the State of Israel.

[Ifreann]

None of which changes the fact that it is irrational to think that Hamas can never be trusted because they are a "terror state". Terrorism is a tactic that many groups and nations have employed throughout history. It is not solely a practice of insane bloodthirsty psychopaths whose only purpose in life is more terrorism. Contrary to what the American government might tell you as they murder a million Iraqis, terrorists can be negotiated with. Hamas can be negotiated with. They are right now abiding by a ceasefire and negotiating to accomplish a more lasting peace. Whether they can be trusted or not is better assessed by looking at what they actually say and what they actually do than by just blindfolding yourself and repeating that they are terrorists over and over.

I would never trust a group that likes to murder its own civilains in the street via public executions.
I would never trust a group that commits a mass killing spree and genocide on unarmed civilians due to them being jewish.
I would never trust a group that has no respect for the west and liberal democracy.

Various groups and nations who do these things or who have done these things are participants in global politics. Saudi Arabia funded 9/11 and butchered Jamal Khashoggi, and they're hosting WWE events and comedy festivals and buying video game publishers. Your own nation has spent decades protecting the perpetrators of mass civilian killings due to the victims being Catholic and the perpetrators being soldiers, to say nothing of Britain's participation in the "Global War on Terror". And look at China, you can't say we don't trust them, they're building everything for us, and they are no fans of the west or liberal democracy. Maybe you're going to say that you personally don't trust Saudi Arabia or China or the UK(until and unless the party you support gets into power), but they are trusted actors in international relations, they are party to treaties and trade agreements, they vote at the UN, they host diplomatic missions.

This weird obesstion of whitewashing hamas of its crimes is just as bad as those trying to whitewash israel of its crimes.

On the contrary, I am saying that the crimes of Hamas be looked at objectively as part of a rational assessment of whether they can be trusted.

[East Dolinia]

I would never trust a group that likes to murder its own civilains in the street via public executions.
I would never trust a group that commits a mass killing spree and genocide on unarmed civilians due to them being jewish.
I would never trust a group that has no respect for the west and liberal democracy.
I would never trust a group that started the war.
I would never trust a group that broke ceasefires.

This weird obesstion of whitewashing hamas of its crimes is just as bad as those trying to whitewash israel of its crimes.
israels actions do not automaticaly make hamas the "good guys" in this war, in fact this war has shown neitherside are the "good guys"

I would never trust a state that likes to murder its own civilians (Kafr Kassem) and occupied civilians (summary executions in Gaza) via public executions
I would never trust a group that commits a mass killing spree (to 'restore deterrence')
and genocide on unarmed civilians due to them being Palestinian.
I would never trust a state that has no respect for the west and liberal democracy, creating a one-state apartheid system in the whole of Palestine in which millions of people are denied democratic and civil rights for decades, while Israel works to remove them from their land
I would never trust a state that started the war in 67 leading to all of this, and starts 'wars' almost every year to 'mow the lawn' and destroy tens of thousands of homes over bottle rockets.
I would never trust a state that broke ceasefires, as Israel did most recently in March to worldwide condemnation.

This weird obesstion of whitewashing israel of its crimes is just as bad as those trying to whitewash hamas of its crimes.

[Khardsland]

Well then, remind us how Trump brought long-lasting peace to the Middle East?

[Oceasia]

I would never trust a group that likes to murder its own civilains in the street via public executions.
I would never trust a group that commits a mass killing spree and genocide on unarmed civilians due to them being jewish.
I would never trust a group that has no respect for the west and liberal democracy.

Various groups and nations who do these things or who have done these things are participants in global politics. Saudi Arabia funded 9/11 and butchered Jamal Khashoggi, and they're hosting WWE events and comedy festivals and buying video game publishers. Your own nation has spent decades protecting the perpetrators of mass civilian killings due to the victims being Catholic and the perpetrators being soldiers, to say nothing of Britain's participation in the "Global War on Terror". And look at China, you can't say we don't trust them, they're building everything for us, and they are no fans of the west or liberal democracy. Maybe you're going to say that you personally don't trust Saudi Arabia or China or the UK(until and unless the party you support gets into power), but they are trusted actors in international relations, they are party to treaties and trade agreements, they vote at the UN, they host diplomatic missions.

This weird obesstion of whitewashing hamas of its crimes is just as bad as those trying to whitewash israel of its crimes.

On the contrary, I am saying that the crimes of Hamas be looked at objectively as part of a rational assessment of whether they can be trusted.

I noticed back in 2023 that Zionist propaganda relies a lot on painting Hamas as a uniquely evil entity that can never be negotiated with, thus justifying any action taken in the name of 'destroying' them. It's just laughably untrue but also depressing when Western politicians continuously parrot it.

Hamas officials arrive in Cairo ‘to follow up on implementation of’ truce

A Hamas delegation, headed by senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya, has arrived in the Egyptian capital.

The group aims “to follow up on the implementation of the ceasefire agreement with mediators, Palestinian factions, and forces”, it said in a statement.

Hamas’s armed wing said earlier it that located the body of another captive, which it said will be delivered to Israel on Sunday “if field conditions were appropriate”.

The group said any Israeli “escalation” would hinder search operations, shortly after Israel said it launched air strikes and artillery fire at targets in southern Gaza amid disputes over ceasefire violations.

[Ifreann]

Various groups and nations who do these things or who have done these things are participants in global politics. Saudi Arabia funded 9/11 and butchered Jamal Khashoggi, and they're hosting WWE events and comedy festivals and buying video game publishers. Your own nation has spent decades protecting the perpetrators of mass civilian killings due to the victims being Catholic and the perpetrators being soldiers, to say nothing of Britain's participation in the "Global War on Terror". And look at China, you can't say we don't trust them, they're building everything for us, and they are no fans of the west or liberal democracy. Maybe you're going to say that you personally don't trust Saudi Arabia or China or the UK(until and unless the party you support gets into power), but they are trusted actors in international relations, they are party to treaties and trade agreements, they vote at the UN, they host diplomatic missions.


On the contrary, I am saying that the crimes of Hamas be looked at objectively as part of a rational assessment of whether they can be trusted.

I noticed back in 2023 that Zionist propaganda relies a lot on painting Hamas as a uniquely evil entity that can never be negotiated with, thus justifying any action taken in the name of 'destroying' them. It's just laughably untrue but also depressing when Western politicians continuously parrot it.

America put twenty years of work into the same propaganda line about terrorism, so it's not surprising that it works so well.

Hamas officials arrive in Cairo ‘to follow up on implementation of’ truce

A Hamas delegation, headed by senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya, has arrived in the Egyptian capital.

The group aims “to follow up on the implementation of the ceasefire agreement with mediators, Palestinian factions, and forces”, it said in a statement.

Hamas’s armed wing said earlier it that located the body of another captive, which it said will be delivered to Israel on Sunday “if field conditions were appropriate”.

The group said any Israeli “escalation” would hinder search operations, shortly after Israel said it launched air strikes and artillery fire at targets in southern Gaza amid disputes over ceasefire violations.

Hope Egypt's air defences are up to code.

[Oceasia]

Axios: Decision to cut all aid was walked back after pressure from USA

It doesn't say how much aid will be allowed in, so aid could be cut down to 10 trucks per day for all we know at the moment.

[Port Carverton]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog- ... ry-3669057

Apparently the IDF has stopped again

[Fractalnavel]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-19-2025/#liveblog-entry-3669057

Apparently the IDF has stopped again

...to reload?

[Slembana]

Israel to halt supply of aid into Gaza until further notice

Israel will suspend the delivery of aid into Gaza until further notice, several Israeli media outlets reported on Sunday, after the government accused Hamas of violating a ceasefire agreement.

The ceasefire agreement had committed Israel to let in 600 trucks carrying aid into Gaza every day.

It had halved the amount as it accused Hamas of violating the agreement by failing to return all the deceased hostages in time.

It has so far also refused to reopen the key border crossing of Rafah, the only access point that is not exclusively controlled by Israel.

A famine was declared in and around Gaza City by the UN-backed Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) in August after a previous blockade of aid deliveries.

IDF says it has started 'wave of strikes' in southern Gaza

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has "now begun a wave of strikes" in the southern Gaza Strip, it says in a statement.

These are against "terror targets" of Hamas, it says, "following a blatant violation of the ceasefire agreement earlier today".

As a reminder, Hamas has said it is not in contact with any fighters that may remain near Rafah, where the IDF alleges clashes occurred.

It doesn't look good for the ceasefire, to say the least. 9 days of relative calm before Israel shattered it due to conditions they themselves imposed on Gaza.

Typical behaviour by Israel. It will have been itching to violate this ceasefire ever since was signed.

[Oceasia]

At least 33 people killed in Gaza today

Gaza’s civil defense agency said a series of Israeli air strikes across the territory killed at least 33 people on Sunday, updating an earlier toll of 21.

The Israeli military said it had struck dozens of Hamas targets across the Gaza Strip, as both Israel and Hamas accused each other of violating the nine-day-old ceasefire brokered by US president Donald Trump.

[Southland]

According to Drop Site News, the attack in Rafah may have actually been a tank running over an UXO. That would explain why American officials were quick to clamp down on Israel's escalation...

[Ifreann]

According to Drop Site News, the attack in Rafah may have actually been a tank running over an UXO. That would explain why American officials were quick to clamp down on Israel's escalation...

Truly incredible for Israel to violate the ceasefire because they accidentally blew up their own tank with their own bomb.

[Camtropia]

Starting to think that "ceasefire" doesn't translate very well into Hebrew.

[The Democratic Kingdom of Sanadia]

*Israel violates the ceasefire*
*Israel violates the ceasefire*
*Israel violates the ceasefire*
*Israel seemingly abandons the ceasefire and resumes bombings*
"The problem here is both sides"

Israel violates the ceasefires but hamas starts the wars in the first place.
So yes both sides.
Ill never trust a terror state to not commit acts of terror

The war started in 1947. Al Aqsa flood was just a counter-offensive.

[The Democratic Kingdom of Sanadia]

How about a United Nations Mandate?

And we probably need a great power to keep the peace… how about Britain?

A British Mandate for Palestine sounds great! We could include Transjordan too as a security zone.

Yes totally we should restore the mandate.
Obviously not with Jordan just Israel and Palestine
That would be mega based.

Ah yes, brinigng back colonialism is "mega based" Please keep your colonial hands outside of Arab lands.

[Greater Guantanamo]

Israel violates the ceasefires but hamas starts the wars in the first place.
So yes both sides.
Ill never trust a terror state to not commit acts of terror

The war started in 1947. Al Aqsa flood was just a counter-offensive.

Hamas could just follow the terms and surrender. Also might on the tier of Steiner's counterattack with how it's going for them

[Slembana]

The war started in 1947. Al Aqsa flood was just a counter-offensive.

Hamas could just follow the terms and surrender. Also might on the tier of Steiner's counterattack with how it's going for them

If Hamas surrendered, Israel would still continue the Nakba.