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The responsibility and route forward for the shutdown.

Republicans are more responsible and should compromise
70
45%
Republicans are more responsible but shouldn't compromise
2
1%
Republicans are less responsible but should compromise
1
1%
Republicans are less responsible and shouldn't compromise
4
3%
Democrats are more responsible and should compromise
6
4%
Democrats are more responsible but shouldn't compromise
0
No votes
Democrats are less responsible but should compromise
4
3%
Democrats are less responsible and shouldn't compromise
42
27%
Both are equally responsible and both should compromise.
19
12%
Both are equally responsible and one should compromise.
6
4%
 
Total votes : 154

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:43 pm

Adamede wrote:
Kerosene Cucumbers wrote:Florida man eats pet peacocks

I think Kristi Noem admires this man.

Is the ground water in Florida laced with meth instead of fluoride or something?


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Valreisches Kaiserreich
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Postby Valreisches Kaiserreich » Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:48 pm

Kostane wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:I find it hilarious (in a "oh, so we're just taking the mask off now" kind of way) that the GOP's strategy for preventing a shutdown was effectively to just do absolutely zero negotiation with the Democrats and openly say that they expect the Dems to just...roll over and do whatever the GOP says.

It was a bold move, Cotton, and unless they're making some kind of power move by letting the government shutdown, I don't think it worked out for them.

Well they all think that the other side is going to get blamed for it, and in politics that’s all that matters. It’s not whether or not the bad thing happens, but who gets the blame. Republicans will say that Democrats failed to do any negotiations and refused a clean CR and Democrats will blame Republicans. If Republicans don’t end up getting the blame from their own constituents (and I don’t think it’s likely that they will), this is probably a net neutral politically for them. Trump didn’t really care much about the effectiveness of the programs getting stopped. I’m just not sure what the Republicans lose by letting this shutdown happen.

I mean, Trump said that he'd fire federal employees if the shutdown happened, which honestly, I bet will play well with the crowd that has no understanding how economics or the government work and will simply think "less workers = less taxes = somehow booming economy", but will probably make said federal employees less likely to vote for him.

Unless they're fanatics, of course. Which, considering the number of sycophants he's appointed, it wouldn't surprise me if they were.
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Postby Adamede » Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Adamede wrote:Is the ground water in Florida laced with meth instead of fluoride or something?


Meth is old school. It's all fent nowadays.

Sorry it’s been a while since I’ve been keeping up with the addicts latest trends.

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Postby Arvenia » Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:04 pm


The administration is also a bit paleoconservative, especially in regards to domestic issues.
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Postby Arvenia » Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:06 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Adamede wrote:Is the ground water in Florida laced with meth instead of fluoride or something?


Meth is old school. It's all fent nowadays.

Fentanyl would absolutely kill people.
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Postby Dakran » Wed Oct 01, 2025 1:52 am

Government shutdown it is then, huh?
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Let's go! At last, it happened! We can finally ransack the United States!
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:47 am

Dakran wrote:Government shutdown it is then, huh?


Not unsurprisingly, given Trump's first term. Curious to see if this one will last more than the big one in term one. 35 days, I think it was?
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Postby Bnei Noah » Wed Oct 01, 2025 4:15 am

Democrats need to fight like hell to restore those Medicaid cuts and worry less about the cuts to PBS.
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Postby Northern Steakia » Wed Oct 01, 2025 4:41 am

Ohio's FY 2026-2027 budget has just gone into effect. A number of new laws have gone into effect alongside it, including raising the minimum wage to $11/hr
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Postby -Saiwania- » Wed Oct 01, 2025 4:43 am

The American Revolution was a mistake in some ways. George III wasn't so bad when you research his biography. Still, perfectly understandable that the US breaking free from direct or indirect control from afar by any monarch; was almost certainly inevitable.

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Postby Ci Arovannea » Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:25 am

Northern Steakia wrote:Ohio's FY 2026-2027 budget has just gone into effect. A number of new laws have gone into effect alongside it, including raising the minimum wage to $11/hr

Rare Ohio W.

Also, lmao shutdown. Winning strategy of "assume everyone is dumber than you are" is bound to flop eventually.

I think the GOP got Murphy's Law'd.
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Postby Burg land » Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:43 am

I searched it up. What is the purpose of a shutdown?
Google AI gave me nonsense
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:26 am

Bnei Noah wrote:Democrats need to fight like hell to restore those Medicaid cuts and worry less about the cuts to PBS.


Yes and yes but the cuts to pbs also suck man.

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Postby Daemonkin of Corn » Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:33 am

Burg land wrote:I searched it up. What is the purpose of a shutdown?
Google AI gave me nonsense



Consider reading an actual article on the topic.
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Postby Burg land » Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:36 am

Daemonkin of Corn wrote:
Burg land wrote:I searched it up. What is the purpose of a shutdown?
Google AI gave me nonsense



Consider reading an actual article on the topic.

I'm only seeing news headlines tho
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Postby The Anti-Delegate » Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:36 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Adamede wrote:Is the ground water in Florida laced with meth instead of fluoride or something?


Meth is old school. It's all fent nowadays.

nah meth is significantly cooler
at least you actually get a good high
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Postby Burg land » Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:36 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Bnei Noah wrote:Democrats need to fight like hell to restore those Medicaid cuts and worry less about the cuts to PBS.


Yes and yes but the cuts to pbs also suck man.

I love pbs
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Postby Daemonkin of Corn » Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:49 am

Burg land wrote:
Daemonkin of Corn wrote:

Consider reading an actual article on the topic.

I'm only seeing news headlines tho


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crrj1znp0pyo

Sometimes news articles are informative.
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Skulls for the husks, blood for the kernels! The fields will grow tall, and Corn’s name will be sung forever.
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Postby Conservative Dixie » Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:51 am

Burg land wrote:I searched it up. What is the purpose of a shutdown?
Google AI gave me nonsense

Basically the House Agreed on a continuing Resolution in the House to keep the government funded. Then the Senate couldn't get 60 votes to pass it so the government shuts down. Everyone gets paid first of the month but after that everything deemed non essential gets shut down and everything essential continues unpaid until Congress gets there shit together and funds the government. This happens every few years typically it's the minority party grandstanding for political points & wanting to make the president/ controlling party look bad. Could last a few days or as long as 35 days historically. But typically they eventually come around to passing the bill to keep the government open X Ammount of time typically a few months so they can do it all again. Government shutdowns are just going to keep happening as we become more polarized.

The current one my understanding is that it's practically the exact same extension they passed the last 13 times the government almost shutdown the latest being back in January when Biden was still president. The issue this time is Democrats want to reverse spending cuts the Administration passed thus far.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:00 am

-Saiwania- wrote:The American Revolution was a mistake in some ways. George III wasn't so bad when you research his biography. Still, perfectly understandable that the US breaking free from direct or indirect control from afar by any monarch; was almost certainly inevitable.


It's amazing how poorly you understand your own history. George III wasn't passing laws about the 13 Colonies, Parliament was.

The founding fathers used him as a figurehead for their propaganda campaigns. It's much easier to point to a single boogieman rather than be honest and say "It's the fault of a small group of rich, white men elected by less than 10% of the population in the UK who are also rich, white men. Incidentally that's exactly the same system we plan to implement here."

I understand why they did it, far easier to recruit poor people to die for them if the poor people think they're going to a part of the new movement. What I don't get is why Americans are still babbling about George III today. Is the education system that poor over there?

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Postby Burg land » Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:04 am

Daemonkin of Corn wrote:
Burg land wrote:I'm only seeing news headlines tho


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crrj1znp0pyo

Sometimes news articles are informative.

Ooh, so it's like a sudden death match for both parties
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Postby Daemonkin of Corn » Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:09 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
-Saiwania- wrote:The American Revolution was a mistake in some ways. George III wasn't so bad when you research his biography. Still, perfectly understandable that the US breaking free from direct or indirect control from afar by any monarch; was almost certainly inevitable.


It's amazing how poorly you understand your own history. George III wasn't passing laws about the 13 Colonies, Parliament was.

The founding fathers used him as a figurehead for their propaganda campaigns. It's much easier to point to a single boogieman rather than be honest and say "It's the fault of a small group of rich, white men elected by less than 10% of the population in the UK who are also rich, white men. Incidentally that's exactly the same system we plan to implement here."

I understand why they did it, far easier to recruit poor people to die for them if the poor people think they're going to a part of the new movement. What I don't get is why Americans are still babbling about George III today. Is the education system that poor over there?


I don't think Saiwana is American. At least I'm not sure.

From the way he types I'd guess he's...

Martian.
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Blood flows, like sap from the stalks, and Corn watches from the fields of blood and battle. I stand in the golden sea, my hands stained with blood. Corn cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it mingles with the soil, that it feeds the roots of the endless harvest.
Skulls for the husks, blood for the kernels! The fields will grow tall, and Corn’s name will be sung forever.
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Postby Kyrindor Puppet » Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:17 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Meth is old school. It's all fent nowadays.

nah meth is significantly cooler
at least you actually get a good high

you guys are missing out, tranq is obviously the superior drug.
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Postby Valrifall » Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:40 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
-Saiwania- wrote:The American Revolution was a mistake in some ways. George III wasn't so bad when you research his biography. Still, perfectly understandable that the US breaking free from direct or indirect control from afar by any monarch; was almost certainly inevitable.


It's amazing how poorly you understand your own history. George III wasn't passing laws about the 13 Colonies, Parliament was.

The founding fathers used him as a figurehead for their propaganda campaigns. It's much easier to point to a single boogieman rather than be honest and say "It's the fault of a small group of rich, white men elected by less than 10% of the population in the UK who are also rich, white men. Incidentally that's exactly the same system we plan to implement here."

I understand why they did it, far easier to recruit poor people to die for them if the poor people think they're going to a part of the new movement. What I don't get is why Americans are still babbling about George III today. Is the education system that poor over there?


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