Islamism- Not that bad?

[American nation tpusa]

Explain how. ISIS's name is literally "The ISLAMIC state".

Explain how the Lord's Resistance Army is called the Lord's resistance army.
Explain how cricket the sport has the same name as the insect
Explain how American football has the word football in it.

The Lord's Resistance aArmy was a Christian terrorist group. I am a Cristian but I accept that some terrorist groups belong to my religon like the KKK or Lord's Resistance Army. Why don't you accept that some terrorists have corrupted Islam.

[Unogonduria]

Explain how. ISIS's name is literally "The ISLAMIC state".

Explain how the Lord's Resistance Army is called the Lord's resistance army.
Explain how cricket the sport has the same name as the insect
Explain how American football has the word football in it.

Answer my question instead of this linguistic bullshit trick you're trying to do

Still, I'll answer you, give me a minute or two.

1. The LORD's Resistance army is a perversion of Christianity. It is a cult (specifically cult of personality, placing Christ off its center), have made their own Ten Commandments (such as thou shall not smoke like wtf is ts)
2. That example is fallacous because it is solely in English. In Bulgaria, щурец (shturets) has no phonetical similarity whatsoever.
3. I have no idea, you know how everything in America is wacky

[American nation tpusa]

Explain how the Lord's Resistance Army is called the Lord's resistance army.
Explain how cricket the sport has the same name as the insect
Explain how American football has the word football in it.

Answer my question instead of this linguistic bullshit trick you're trying to do

Still, I'll answer you, give me a minute or two.

1. The LORD's Resistance army is a perversion of Christianity. It is a cult (specifically cult of personality, placing Christ off its center), have made their own Ten Commandments (such as thou shall not smoke like wtf is ts)
2. That example is fallacous because it is solely in English. In Bulgaria, щурец (shturets) has no phonetical similarity whatsoever.
3. I have no idea, you know how everything in America is wacky

I doubt he will respond I think he is having a hard time bieng a apologist for Islamism right now.

[Unogonduria]

Answer my question instead of this linguistic bullshit trick you're trying to do

Still, I'll answer you, give me a minute or two.

1. The LORD's Resistance army is a perversion of Christianity. It is a cult (specifically cult of personality, placing Christ off its center), have made their own Ten Commandments (such as thou shall not smoke like wtf is ts)
2. That example is fallacous because it is solely in English. In Bulgaria, щурец (shturets) has no phonetical similarity whatsoever.
3. I have no idea, you know how everything in America is wacky

I doubt he will respond I think he is having a hard time bieng a apologist for Islamism right now.

At least he's better than BC

[American nation tpusa]

I doubt he will respond I think he is having a hard time bieng a apologist for Islamism right now.

At least he's better than BC

True

[Western European Khilafat]

Explain how the Lord's Resistance Army is called the Lord's resistance army.
Explain how cricket the sport has the same name as the insect
Explain how American football has the word football in it.

Answer my question instead of this linguistic bullshit trick you're trying to do

Still, I'll answer you, give me a minute or two.

1. The LORD's Resistance army is a perversion of Christianity. It is a cult (specifically cult of personality, placing Christ off its center), have made their own Ten Commandments (such as thou shall not smoke like wtf is ts)
2. That example is fallacous because it is solely in English. In Bulgaria, щурец (shturets) has no phonetical similarity whatsoever.
3. I have no idea, you know how everything in America is wacky

So you agree the LRA is not representative of Chrsitianity
Why then is ISIS representative of Islam?

[Tombourville]

Answer my question instead of this linguistic bullshit trick you're trying to do

Still, I'll answer you, give me a minute or two.

1. The LORD's Resistance army is a perversion of Christianity. It is a cult (specifically cult of personality, placing Christ off its center), have made their own Ten Commandments (such as thou shall not smoke like wtf is ts)
2. That example is fallacous because it is solely in English. In Bulgaria, щурец (shturets) has no phonetical similarity whatsoever.
3. I have no idea, you know how everything in America is wacky

So you agree the LRA is not representative of Chrsitianity
Why then is ISIS representative of Islam?

Nobody is saying that. We are pointing out that radical Islamism is as bad as any other religious radicalism. The point where you go from believing something to imposing said thing on others is where it’s bad.

[Fjolmidlum]

Are you referring to anything specific, or is it just more of your pointless shenanigans?

The part on Trump's exec powers being constrained by state officials. Not what we've seen so far; many governors have loudly protested but when push came to shove they all submitted and turned the other cheek.

So, the latter option. Noted.

[The Lazarene Republic]

Answer my question instead of this linguistic bullshit trick you're trying to do

Still, I'll answer you, give me a minute or two.

1. The LORD's Resistance army is a perversion of Christianity. It is a cult (specifically cult of personality, placing Christ off its center), have made their own Ten Commandments (such as thou shall not smoke like wtf is ts)
2. That example is fallacous because it is solely in English. In Bulgaria, щурец (shturets) has no phonetical similarity whatsoever.
3. I have no idea, you know how everything in America is wacky

So you agree the LRA is not representative of Chrsitianity
Why then is ISIS representative of Islam?

It's not representative of Islam as a religion, it's representative of Islamism, your political ideology. Also, the LRA follows a syncretic mix of (primarily) local animist beliefs, including stuff like spirit possessions, and (secondarily) dumb American Protestant heresies.

[Prydania]

Answer my question instead of this linguistic bullshit trick you're trying to do

Still, I'll answer you, give me a minute or two.

1. The LORD's Resistance army is a perversion of Christianity. It is a cult (specifically cult of personality, placing Christ off its center), have made their own Ten Commandments (such as thou shall not smoke like wtf is ts)
2. That example is fallacous because it is solely in English. In Bulgaria, щурец (shturets) has no phonetical similarity whatsoever.
3. I have no idea, you know how everything in America is wacky

So you agree the LRA is not representative of Chrsitianity
Why then is ISIS representative of Islam?

You have missed the point, again. You keep missing the point of your own thread, and that's truly remarkable. I don't know if this is genuinely you not being able to actually grasp the very topic you broached, or if you're trying to muddy the waters for your own ideology's benefit, but either way, you're way off base.

First, yes. The LRA is a perversion of Christianity. As is the KKK. And likewise ISIS/ISIL/IS and regimes like Iran and the Taliban are perversions of Islam. I think we can all agree on those basic principals.

The issue here is this...
The LRA and KKK, even if they are perversions, are still examples of what happens if you mix political ideology with overt religion- you get authoritarianism and violence and oppression. The LRA and KKK may be perverting Christianity, but they are still examples of why Christian theocracy should be avoided at all costs.

And the topic here falls along the same lines. No one here is trying to talk down to Islam (despite multiple Muslims here talking down to other faiths, including yourself), the argument here is against Islamism. Sure, Iran, the Taliban, and ISIS are perversions of Islam. Absolutely they are. They still are, however, examples of why Islamism- ie Islamic theocracy- should be avoided. By injecting overt religious theocratic tendencies into politics you can't help but come out with a perversion.
You may insist that your version of Islamism will be gentler, kinder, more tolerant... but already in this thread you've insulted Christians, Jews, and atheists, you've asked why gay people have to be gay... you've already shown that even if you have the genuine best of intentions an Islamist regime governed in according to your "only I know the real Islamism" principals would still devolve into persecution of non-Muslims, of sexual and gendered minorities, of women, etc...

The issue isn't Islam. Islam is fine. It's a religion. It has some nuts, and scores more good, decent people. I want to believe you're one of the latter, merely grappling with second gen immigrant identity issues.

The problem people are coming at here with you is that we're against Islamism. Not Islam, Islamism. And neither I, or others here, can tolerate Islamism, because Islamism inevitably leads to the oppressive, authoritarian perversions you're talking about.

The closest thing the US has to "Christian law" is blue laws, and those have mostly been repealed by now.

Not that a mandatory day off of work is all that oppressive anyway...

It is oppressive when only Christians get their holy days off; and others must work through theirs [e.g. Ramadan, Eid al-Fitr] because the western working calendar is rooted in Christianity.

I'm a Jew. I live in the US. I get Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur off.

Are you referring to anything specific, or is it just more of your pointless shenanigans?

The part on Trump's exec powers being constrained by state officials. Not what we've seen so far; many governors have loudly protested but when push came to shove they all submitted and turned the other cheek.

You have no leg to stand on. You've already made it clear you do support armed government thugs in the streets oppressing dissidents. You're just mad Trump is doing it rather then an Islamist dictator.

You're not against imperialism, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.
You're not against colonialism and displacement, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.
You're not against the government using force to silence opposition, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.

[The Byzantine Caliphate]

You have no leg to stand on. You've already made it clear you do support armed government thugs in the streets oppressing dissidents. You're just mad Trump is doing it rather then an Islamist dictator.

The west has no leg to stand on. They've already made it clear they do support armed government thugs in the streets oppressing dissidents. They're just mad the Taliban / I.R.G.C. are doing it rather than the U.S.-N.A.T.O. ruling business elite.

You're not against imperialism, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.
You're not against colonialism and displacement, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.
You're not against the government using force to silence opposition, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.

The west is not against imperialism; they just want to be the ones doing it.
The west is not against colonialism and displacement; they just want to be the ones doing it.
The west is not against the government using force to silence opposition; they just want to be the ones doing it.

[The Byzantine Caliphate]

It is oppressive when only Christians get their holy days off; and others must work through theirs [e.g. Ramadan, Eid al-Fitr] because the western working calendar is rooted in Christianity.

It was found as a Christian country, duh. Stop whining; you know better than this.

[...] The U.K. and U.S. have no room to complain about arbitrary arrests / detentions in Iran, or Erdoğan's clampdown on free speech, when their own cops are roughing up old grannies for holding placards calling out actions of a terrorist state bankrolled by the west.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

[Tombourville]

You have no leg to stand on. You've already made it clear you do support armed government thugs in the streets oppressing dissidents. You're just mad Trump is doing it rather then an Islamist dictator.

The west has no leg to stand on. They've already made it clear they do support armed government thugs in the streets oppressing dissidents. They're just mad the Taliban / I.R.G.C. are doing it rather than the U.S.-N.A.T.O. ruling business elite.

You're not against imperialism, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.
You're not against colonialism and displacement, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.
You're not against the government using force to silence opposition, you just want an Islamist regime doing it.

The west is not against imperialism; they just want to be the ones doing it.
The west is not against colonialism and displacement; they just want to be the ones doing it.
The west is not against the government using force to silence opposition; they just want to be the ones doing it.

Can we pretty please stop using “and you are lynching negroes” sooner rather than later?

[Fahran]

The west has no leg to stand on. They've already made it clear they do support armed government thugs in the streets oppressing dissidents. They're just mad the Taliban / I.R.G.C. are doing it rather than the U.S.-N.A.T.O. ruling business elite.

Arresting people for supporting a proscribed organization that prominently attacked the country's security interests, almost certainly at the behest of foreign actors, is somewhat different from being arrested because you didn't cover your hair correctly, because you practice the wrong religion, or on nebulous charges that you defied G-d's will.

Mind you, the UK's continuous draconian tilt, both in the context of suppressing racism and xenophobia and in the context of suppressing terrorism, irks me. I just find the assertion that the civil rights situation in the UK is in any way similar to the civil rights situation in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Turkey, or Pakistan completely baseless.

[Unogonduria]

It was found as a Christian country, duh. Stop whining; you know better than this.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

You (not you specifically, since the Mods will say "OoH, bUt He DiDn'T dO aNyThInG tO yOu SpEcIfIcAlLy") did the same for even longer yet I do not hate modern Turkey. You need to forgive in order to move forward.

[Magna Mediterranea]

It was found as a Christian country, duh. Stop whining; you know better than this.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

You call yourself the Byzantine (Ottoman) Caliphate...

[Magna Mediterranea]

Answer my question instead of this linguistic bullshit trick you're trying to do

Still, I'll answer you, give me a minute or two.

1. The LORD's Resistance army is a perversion of Christianity. It is a cult (specifically cult of personality, placing Christ off its center), have made their own Ten Commandments (such as thou shall not smoke like wtf is ts)
2. That example is fallacous because it is solely in English. In Bulgaria, щурец (shturets) has no phonetical similarity whatsoever.
3. I have no idea, you know how everything in America is wacky

So you agree the LRA is not representative of Chrsitianity
Why then is ISIS representative of Islam?

LRA is representative of Extremist Christianity.
ISIS is representative of Extremist Islam (Islamism).

Simple. No one here is attacking Islam (it is ok don't feel sad). They are attacking Islamism, an extremist religious ideology.

I know that you are most probably going to ignore this WEK and/or BC because it isn't something you can easily Strawman or Whatabout.

[The Lazarene Republic]

It was found as a Christian country, duh. Stop whining; you know better than this.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

Weren't your ancestors the ones doing Western imperialism?

[New haven america]

It was found as a Christian country, duh. Stop whining; you know better than this.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

Aren't you a pasty Euro white guy in America?

[Europa Undivided]

It was found as a Christian country, duh. Stop whining; you know better than this.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

You're like one of those "strong female characters" in recent Hollywood in that both you and them have their personalities revolving around sheer, iridescent rage for no discernable valid reason at all.

[Unogonduria]

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

You're like one of those "strong female characters" in recent Hollywood in that both you and them have their personalities revolving around sheer, iridescent rage for no discernable valid reason at all.

Mind you, by his own admission, he was born at the time the USSR still existed... yeah, that's how old he is and how he is acting

[Europa Undivided]

You're like one of those "strong female characters" in recent Hollywood in that both you and them have their personalities revolving around sheer, iridescent rage for no discernable valid reason at all.

Mind you, by his own admission, he was born at the time the USSR still existed... yeah, that's how old he is and how he is acting

I guess some people just didn't undergo character development in real life instead of just being badly written fictional characters.

[The Bordirigist Republic]

It is oppressive when only Christians get their holy days off; and others must work through theirs [e.g. Ramadan, Eid al-Fitr] because the western working calendar is rooted in Christianity.

It was found as a Christian country, duh. Stop whining; you know better than this.

[...] The U.K. and U.S. have no room to complain about arbitrary arrests / detentions in Iran, or Erdoğan's clampdown on free speech, when their own cops are roughing up old grannies for holding placards calling out actions of a terrorist state bankrolled by the west.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The US is a secular nation.

[The Two Jerseys]

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

Aren't you a pasty Euro white guy in America?

-"What do you mean, 'you people'?"

-"What do you mean 'you people'?"

[Europa Undivided]

I would not be shitting on the west if not for them r*ping, robbing, and colonizing my brothers for past 400 years.

Aren't you a pasty Euro white guy in America?

Yeah why doesn't this colonizer go back to Europe? /s