Christian Discussion: Habemus papam- Leo XIV

[Tarsonis]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

[Somewherica]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

God bless.
Doing His will in this world is rarely confined to doing just one job.

[New-Minneapolis]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

Hatzlachah rabbah

[Impreo de Jap]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

God bless your heart.

[Luminesa]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

Absolutely, prayers for this path for you. It's a huge pull from something that has been so comfortable for you, and I hope God guides your hands and your heart.

[Luminesa]

They would have more children because the child mortality rate pre-modern medicine was so insanely high, and because they needed to have some heirs to live into adulthood. In a healthy, stable society, people are able to space-out how many kids they have, because they don’t have to worry as much about their babies dying before they turn 5.

And even in a country that is, by GDP metrics, one of the wealthiest in the world, we still have states that suffer with quite a lot of infant mortality. Mississippi, the poorest state in the union (or maybe second, behind New Mexico) is FULL of maternal/neo-natal care deserts. Effectively, if you don’t live in one of the larger cities or the Gulf Coast, you may have to drive hours to get any sort of care for you and your baby. And then there are the complications of pregnancy, combined with Mississippi’s majority-minority populace suffering higher-than-average rates of obesity, hypertension, diabetes, poverty, depression, generational fear of doctors (especially white ones), and maternal death. Similar goes for Louisiana, my home state, which has the highest rate of maternal death of black women in the country.

Even as a pro-life individual who is considerably adherent to the Catholic faith, one has to understand that better maternal/neo-natal care goes a long way to making life truly “good”, especially for families. And my guy, right now it is “not good” in a lot of places. Oversimplifying and believing you’re going to save the Western world by impregnating some girl does nothing good to change the equation. If you do not educate yourself and let yourself hear the woman’s perspective of what she needs-better care for her and for her family-you will only repeat the generational trauma that has brought us here in the first place.

I acknowledge that improving maternal care and medical assistance is very important, especially these days were healthcare in the West is at risk. But from a demographic perspective improving these will not have a major impact on the issue at hand.

And I also acknowledge that there are many people suffering nowadays, even in rich countries, but their suffering remains much lesser than the ones our ancestors went through. And even if reduced infantile mortality is objectively good thing, as well as the raising of living standards, the demographic problem of low fertility rates, that is a secondary effect of this, remains a serious issue. We have an larger and larger older population that relies on a smaller and smaller working population to survive, and their is also a huge risk of our civilization getting fragilized by not being able to renew its population

I'm simply to recognize this issue and raise awareness, and it is clear that simply "impregnating a woman" on an individual level will not solve the issue. And I'm pretty sure I didn't claim anything of the sort, either.

"Fixing the low fertility problem" = "Impregnating women will solve the problem."

I genuinely think you do not understand the issue. These children are being born...and then are dying. Or their mothers are dying. A born infant does not become a working adult in a day. Annually, raising a child costs something like $30,000. Multiply that by eighteen. Add into that cost any additional hospital visits, if your child suffers any sort of chronic illness, requires accommodations in school, requires a specialized diet, attends private school, etc.

There is not a ranking of the problem. The infant mortality rate and the raising of living standards are connected to the web of issues we as Catholics must address. This is Catholic Social Teaching. Suggestions that simply raising the birth rate will somehow solve the work problem are simply ignorant.

[New Visayan Islands]

I acknowledge that improving maternal care and medical assistance is very important, especially these days were healthcare in the West is at risk. But from a demographic perspective improving these will not have a major impact on the issue at hand.

And I also acknowledge that there are many people suffering nowadays, even in rich countries, but their suffering remains much lesser than the ones our ancestors went through. And even if reduced infantile mortality is objectively good thing, as well as the raising of living standards, the demographic problem of low fertility rates, that is a secondary effect of this, remains a serious issue. We have an larger and larger older population that relies on a smaller and smaller working population to survive, and their is also a huge risk of our civilization getting fragilized by not being able to renew its population

I'm simply to recognize this issue and raise awareness, and it is clear that simply "impregnating a woman" on an individual level will not solve the issue. And I'm pretty sure I didn't claim anything of the sort, either.

"Fixing the low fertility problem" = "Impregnating women will solve the problem."

I genuinely think you do not understand the issue. These children are being born...and then are dying. Or their mothers are dying. A born infant does not become a working adult in a day. Annually, raising a child costs something like $30,000. Multiply that by eighteen. Add into that cost any additional hospital visits, if your child suffers any sort of chronic illness, requires accommodations in school, requires a specialized diet, attends private school, etc.

There is not a ranking of the problem. The infant mortality rate and the raising of living standards are connected to the web of issues we as Catholics must address. This is Catholic Social Teaching. Suggestions that simply raising the birth rate will somehow solve the work problem are simply ignorant.

Hence the Consistent Life Ethic, aka "when you say pro-life, you better mean pro-life." At every stage, if it needs spelling out.

[Fjolmidlum]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

Good luck, Tarsonis! This is a huge move, and I hope you can do so much good doing it.

[Unogonduria]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

God bless you!

[The Archregimancy]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

I will offer you a quick prayer while I'm at Bethany Beyond the Jordan on Sunday morning (a site tour being part of the interview process); it'll seem appropriate on several levels.

[Nachostan]

If you want the Orthodox Jewish answer it ranges from no (Idolatry) to its complicated (Shituf). There is a reason ecumenism has been easier between non-Orthodox Jewish traditions (such as Reform) as many in the Orthodox fold consider Churches a place of idolatry. Suffice to say given the complicated history between Judaism and Christianity its sadly not going to be any easier anytime soon. Ultimately the primary issue here is the Trinity as it doesn't fit with modern Jewish conceptions of Godhood (or the Islamic concepts of it either).

I’m a ex-Christian that is very seriously considering converting to Judaism when my grandmother passes away. She is 89 with congestive heart failure and rheumatoid arthritis, with the latter being quite severe.

She basically the only person that isn’t delusional that gives a shit about me and a true sense of support.

I would consider some Christians “Noahides”…..and from what I’ve seen, many Gen Z Christians don’t want to be associated with Zionism and supersessionism absolutely dominates young Christians.

I'd think being trinitarian contradicts noahide laws.

[Tarsonis]

Thank you all

[New-Minneapolis]

I’m a ex-Christian that is very seriously considering converting to Judaism when my grandmother passes away. She is 89 with congestive heart failure and rheumatoid arthritis, with the latter being quite severe.

She basically the only person that isn’t delusional that gives a shit about me and a true sense of support.

I would consider some Christians “Noahides”…..and from what I’ve seen, many Gen Z Christians don’t want to be associated with Zionism and supersessionism absolutely dominates young Christians.

I'd think being trinitarian contradicts noahide laws.

Let’s just say I have a more liberal approach to the Noahide laws. The intentions of Trinitarian Christians are clean.

[Nachostan]

I'd think being trinitarian contradicts noahide laws.

Let’s just say I have a more liberal approach to the Noahide laws. The intentions of Trinitarian Christians are clean.

But to be honest many Orthodox Christians ( including me) would be offended if someone labeled them as noahide.

[New-Minneapolis]

Let’s just say I have a more liberal approach to the Noahide laws. The intentions of Trinitarian Christians are clean.

But to be honest many Orthodox Christians ( including me) would be offended if someone labeled them as noahide.

I would not call someone that if they refused the label themselves. You're an Orthodox Christian.

[Zantalio]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

May God himself bless you for what you do.

[Luminesa]

"Fixing the low fertility problem" = "Impregnating women will solve the problem."

I genuinely think you do not understand the issue. These children are being born...and then are dying. Or their mothers are dying. A born infant does not become a working adult in a day. Annually, raising a child costs something like $30,000. Multiply that by eighteen. Add into that cost any additional hospital visits, if your child suffers any sort of chronic illness, requires accommodations in school, requires a specialized diet, attends private school, etc.

There is not a ranking of the problem. The infant mortality rate and the raising of living standards are connected to the web of issues we as Catholics must address. This is Catholic Social Teaching. Suggestions that simply raising the birth rate will somehow solve the work problem are simply ignorant.

Hence the Consistent Life Ethic, aka "when you say pro-life, you better mean pro-life." At every stage, if it needs spelling out.

It really does need the spelling-out sometimes.

[Luminesa]

So, Tars has some career news of his own. I am leaving the world of education, and my theological training, to transition into emergency services. Back in February, while out on lessons I ended up being the first car on the scene of a head on collision. Car crossed the yellow line and struck an oncoming vehicle. That driver unfortunately passed while I was trying to render aid and prevent a fire from breaking out. The struck driver, thankfully, was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

Ever since then I've felt God pulling me in this direction, and I started my training yesterday. I just ask for your prayers that this ends up being the right thing for me, and that I get through this grueling next couple of months

I will offer you a quick prayer while I'm at Bethany Beyond the Jordan on Sunday morning (a site tour being part of the interview process); it'll seem appropriate on several levels.

GOOD LUCK FOR THE REST OF YOUR INTERVIEW!!!

[New-Minneapolis]

They would have more children because the child mortality rate pre-modern medicine was so insanely high, and because they needed to have some heirs to live into adulthood. In a healthy, stable society, people are able to space-out how many kids they have, because they don’t have to worry as much about their babies dying before they turn 5.

And even in a country that is, by GDP metrics, one of the wealthiest in the world, we still have states that suffer with quite a lot of infant mortality. Mississippi, the poorest state in the union (or maybe second, behind New Mexico) is FULL of maternal/neo-natal care deserts. Effectively, if you don’t live in one of the larger cities or the Gulf Coast, you may have to drive hours to get any sort of care for you and your baby. And then there are the complications of pregnancy, combined with Mississippi’s majority-minority populace suffering higher-than-average rates of obesity, hypertension, diabetes, poverty, depression, generational fear of doctors (especially white ones), and maternal death. Similar goes for Louisiana, my home state, which has the highest rate of maternal death of black women in the country.

Even as a pro-life individual who is considerably adherent to the Catholic faith, one has to understand that better maternal/neo-natal care goes a long way to making life truly “good”, especially for families. And my guy, right now it is “not good” in a lot of places. Oversimplifying and believing you’re going to save the Western world by impregnating some girl does nothing good to change the equation. If you do not educate yourself and let yourself hear the woman’s perspective of what she needs-better care for her and for her family-you will only repeat the generational trauma that has brought us here in the first place.

I acknowledge that improving maternal care and medical assistance is very important, especially these days were healthcare in the West is at risk. But from a demographic perspective improving these will not have a major impact on the issue at hand.

And I also acknowledge that there are many people suffering nowadays, even in rich countries, but their suffering remains much lesser than the ones our ancestors went through. And even if reduced infantile mortality is objectively good thing, as well as the raising of living standards, the demographic problem of low fertility rates, that is a secondary effect of this, remains a serious issue. We have an larger and larger older population that relies on a smaller and smaller working population to survive, and their is also a huge risk of our civilization getting fragilized by not being able to renew its population

I'm simply to recognize this issue and raise awareness, and it is clear that simply "impregnating a woman" on an individual level will not solve the issue. And I'm pretty sure I didn't claim anything of the sort, either.

Should people have children even if they don’t have the means to properly raise them? Yes or no.

[Nachostan]

I acknowledge that improving maternal care and medical assistance is very important, especially these days were healthcare in the West is at risk. But from a demographic perspective improving these will not have a major impact on the issue at hand.

And I also acknowledge that there are many people suffering nowadays, even in rich countries, but their suffering remains much lesser than the ones our ancestors went through. And even if reduced infantile mortality is objectively good thing, as well as the raising of living standards, the demographic problem of low fertility rates, that is a secondary effect of this, remains a serious issue. We have an larger and larger older population that relies on a smaller and smaller working population to survive, and their is also a huge risk of our civilization getting fragilized by not being able to renew its population

I'm simply to recognize this issue and raise awareness, and it is clear that simply "impregnating a woman" on an individual level will not solve the issue. And I'm pretty sure I didn't claim anything of the sort, either.

Should people have children even if they don’t have the means to properly raise them? Yes or no.

If we had proper healthcare and welfare services this wouldnt be a question since the state should provide welfare to low income families to help raise children. But typically I think in this current system the church should help poor families raise children.

[Reddit Atheism]

To be honest, I started this nation as a satire of your typical Reddit atheist. My real spiritual belief is somewhat close to Christianity but I doubt can be described as such by the way.

[Luminesa]

Should people have children even if they don’t have the means to properly raise them? Yes or no.

If we had proper healthcare and welfare services this wouldnt be a question since the state should provide welfare to low income families to help raise children. But typically I think in this current system the church should help poor families raise children.

They already do, but our civic system should help to support families if they want to get to the core of why our infrastructure, economics, and social lives are in the garbage (generally speaking).

[New-Minneapolis]

Should people have children even if they don’t have the means to properly raise them? Yes or no.

If we had proper healthcare and welfare services this wouldnt be a question since the state should provide welfare to low income families to help raise children. But typically I think in this current system the church should help poor families raise children.

That’s a convoluted way of saying “Yes, I think people should have children even if they don’t have the means to support them”.

What about people with serious genetic disorders like me? I don’t consider having Neurofibromatosis type I a blessing. And I refuse to give this fucking horrible condition to anyone else, and the ONLY way I could do that is by procreating.

[Nea Skotia]

If we had proper healthcare and welfare services this wouldnt be a question since the state should provide welfare to low income families to help raise children. But typically I think in this current system the church should help poor families raise children.

They already do, but our civic system should help to support families if they want to get to the core of why our infrastructure, economics, and social lives are in the garbage (generally speaking).

You're starting to sound like that dirty commie King.
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I approve, but we all know what the establishment thinks of it.

[Nachostan]

If we had proper healthcare and welfare services this wouldnt be a question since the state should provide welfare to low income families to help raise children. But typically I think in this current system the church should help poor families raise children.

That’s a convoluted way of saying “Yes, I think people should have children even if they don’t have the means to support them”.

What about people with serious genetic disorders like me? I don’t consider having Neurofibromatosis type I a blessing. And I refuse to give this fucking horrible condition to anyone else, and the ONLY way I could do that is by procreating.

Having children is a choice not an obligation.