UK Politics Thread: Virtual Insanity

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Reform will abolish devolution.

They would only do that if their aim is to get rid of Scotland by provoking Scots into declaring independence.

I think this is the hurdle Reform UK still have to get over - they undoubtedly disapprove of devolution but to have a policy actually saying that would hurt them. They are in a phase where they can get a lot of support without having to clarify what they actually believe, but at some point if they actually want to win a general election they will have to put their nasty little ideas into a manifesto. Assuming that they don't, like every other previous Farage political party, fall apart first.

[Celritannia]

Reform UK struggles to find friends to share council power

The problem Reform UK also has is its sole focus on immigration, which is not something local councils deal with. The lack of experienced local council politicians, and the fact that the budget for most local councils goes on social care and then transport, show they have zero clue how to govern.

[Imperializt Russia]

Reform UK struggles to find friends to share council power

The problem Reform UK also has is its sole focus on immigration, which is not something local councils deal with. The lack of experienced local council politicians, and the fact that the budget for most local councils goes on social care and then transport, show they have zero clue how to govern.

They forgot the bins! Woe betide them at the next local election.

[Ariddia]

I think this is the hurdle Reform UK still have to get over - they undoubtedly disapprove of devolution but to have a policy actually saying that would hurt them. They are in a phase where they can get a lot of support without having to clarify what they actually believe, but at some point if they actually want to win a general election they will have to put their nasty little ideas into a manifesto. Assuming that they don't, like every other previous Farage political party, fall apart first.

I agree. That's why I'm sceptical of predictions that Reform can win a general election. Once they actually have to announce policies, they'll lose voters.

[San Lumen]

Reform UK struggles to find friends to share council power

The problem Reform UK also has is its sole focus on immigration, which is not something local councils deal with. The lack of experienced local council politicians, and the fact that the budget for most local councils goes on social care and then transport, show they have zero clue how to govern.

People knew that and voted for them anyway. They got what they wanted.

[The Matthew Islands]

I think this is the hurdle Reform UK still have to get over - they undoubtedly disapprove of devolution but to have a policy actually saying that would hurt them. They are in a phase where they can get a lot of support without having to clarify what they actually believe, but at some point if they actually want to win a general election they will have to put their nasty little ideas into a manifesto. Assuming that they don't, like every other previous Farage political party, fall apart first.

I agree. That's why I'm sceptical of predictions that Reform can win a general election. Once they actually have to announce policies, they'll lose voters.

The same thing happened to UKIP in 2015 when everyone thought they could take loads of seats from the Tories and suddenly UKIP had to bodge a manifesto together!

[Herargon]

You want to fire people, break a bunch of government contracts and not save a single penny of money? Sounds silly.

The government is hopelessly broken and needs to be chopped, skewed, twisted, and beaten back into shape.

Trump and Elon Musk made the framework to take back control of the government from runaway bureaucracies and make the government run the government. The rest of the world needs to learn from them and apply the lessons.
DOGE Whitehall, destroy ministries and rebuild them, taking only the top 1% of performers and forcing everyone else to justify being employed in new recreated ministries. Failures can get booted. Start over and lure talent from the private sector back into government while pushing out the HR-types that have gutted the country.

They actually made the bureaucracy way worse by being billionnaires and putting in all sorts of tax evading loopholes. The rest of the world already has the lesson: the fascist American government is busy being bloody stupid. The UK already tried this under Conservative/ReformUK-like liberal politics and it led to the greatest economic crisis in a few hundred years, with the people's lives getting WORSE, while the elite got richer and richer.

Elon Musk didn't "take back" control. He increased it and is an immigrant.
If the people want to take back control, they need to eliminate all billionnaires' wealth, and have self-governance on local scales.
No Democrats, no Republicans - just people working together to help each other.

The private sector IS the problem. We don't need corruption. What we need is for everyone to be able to live a decent life as they themselves want.

Billionnaire: 300,000,000,000 cookies.
You: 80,000 cookies.
You (optimistic): 800,000 cookies.

Trickle-down economics is dubious. If the billionnaire holds all wealth, where did he get it from?
That's right -- the worker. He stole it. The billionnaire then gives a scrap to the people.

Elon Musk IS already a big government. Corporations can never be trusted, as they are unelected, wage-stealing wolves.
If we want less bureaucracy and a smaller government, then instead of making all sorts of exceptions for help,
we must make the help universal for everyone. Billionnaires actually want a BIGGER government.
They want government control, total control over your life. Neither Trump nor Musk give a rat's shit about privacy: they only want spyware because they can profit off you even more that way. You'll be riddled with ads that spy on you, and can't go anywhere in freedom.

But hey, congrats with your "freedom"!

[Herargon]

Reform UK struggles to find friends to share council power

The problem Reform UK also has is its sole focus on immigration, which is not something local councils deal with. The lack of experienced local council politicians, and the fact that the budget for most local councils goes on social care and then transport, show they have zero clue how to govern.

ReformUK probably is sloshing their funds away to bribe others, while solving precisely nothing. What utter corruption.

[Qasaqi]

quite surprised to find this thread one of the most active on the forum
i assume that most of you are supporters of the general establishment, of the contraction of the state, of replacement migration, etc. - what would you say are the causes of reform's sweep of the local councils a month ago? how should the major parties respond / can the two-party system be maintained (if it should be), or is further polarization inevitable? how have you / will you recalibrate your stances on relevant issues in light of the near-universally acknowledged failure of the migration policy of the previous decade (i have in view primarily starmer's recent speech and remarkably cynical pivot) and multiculturalism as it is currently practiced?

I'd hardly call this thread "supportive of the general establishment", most of this thread is us complaining about it

Generally most people here seem in favour of maintaining the status quo of the UK system.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Now Zia Yusuf is returning to Reform UK in a new role... decisive stuff.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv040rnqzo

[Ifreann]

Now Zia Yusuf is returning to Reform UK in a new role... decisive stuff.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv040rnqzo

In, out, in, out, shake it all about.

[Tinhampton]

In recent days, BBC.com has been logging me out of my account once per day. This has been a persistent pattern in recent days and something that's never happened to me before in many years of using BBC.com or BBC.co.uk, except after having acquired a new computer. I haven't disabled any cookies. Is anyone else getting this issue?

[Outer Armatonisdaristan]

In recent days, BBC.com has been logging me out of my account once per day. This has been a persistent pattern in recent days and something that's never happened to me before in many years of using BBC.com or BBC.co.uk, except after having acquired a new computer. I haven't disabled any cookies. Is anyone else getting this issue?

Why trust the BBC when the only views they present are the government’s official views? They’re the British version of KCTV but without the propaganda.

It’s why my dad watches GB News instead.

[Celritannia]

Reform UK councils in ‘shambles’ as newly elected councillors fail to show up

[Almonaster Nuevo]

In recent days, BBC.com has been logging me out of my account once per day. This has been a persistent pattern in recent days and something that's never happened to me before in many years of using BBC.com or BBC.co.uk, except after having acquired a new computer. I haven't disabled any cookies. Is anyone else getting this issue?

Nope. It's almost certainly something to do with your set-up, probably defaults in your new computer. I'd suggest trawling through your settings for anything cookie-related. In particular anything affecting session cookies or expiry.

Odd behaviour can also creep in from settings which are dumbed down as "protect my privacy". If you can't see anything off that's openly related to cookies, then they are the next target.

Good luck

[The Huskar Social Union]

Reform UK councils in ‘shambles’ as newly elected councillors fail to show up

hmmm

Now Zia Yusuf is returning to Reform UK in a new role... decisive stuff.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv040rnqzo

HMMMM

Interesting, what a functioning political party

[Outer Armatonisdaristan]

In recent days, BBC.com has been logging me out of my account once per day. This has been a persistent pattern in recent days and something that's never happened to me before in many years of using BBC.com or BBC.co.uk, except after having acquired a new computer. I haven't disabled any cookies. Is anyone else getting this issue?

Nope. It's almost certainly something to do with your set-up, probably defaults in your new computer. I'd suggest trawling through your settings for anything cookie-related. In particular anything affecting session cookies or expiry.

Odd behaviour can also creep in from settings which are dumbed down as "protect my privacy". If you can't see anything off that's openly related to cookies, then they are the next target.

Good luck

Did you pay your TV license? (for legal reasons I’m joking, this is satire)

[Herargon]

I'd hardly call this thread "supportive of the general establishment", most of this thread is us complaining about it

Generally most people here seem in favour of maintaining the status quo of the UK system.

Well, I oppose it... FPTP is frankly a terrible system; it's not proportional. The nobility and spirituals having reserved seats in the parliament is also mediaeval.

There's no general workplace democracy in the UK, either.
Having a head of state based on being born out of - to say it - the right vagina, is also horrendously outdated and doesn't select for competency.

Not to mention that the NHS and correspondingly, the whole UK system, is too Americanised and too queer-unfriendly. Not to mention that rich conservatives often like to bribe their good friends, festering corruption. They're anything but "a man of the people" and aren't even honest. The UK isn't a country anymore where the people care for each other, but a country where people rip each other apart over scraps, while many oligarchs profit.

[Herargon]

Reform UK councils in ‘shambles’ as newly elected councillors fail to show up

hmmm

Now Zia Yusuf is returning to Reform UK in a new role... decisive stuff.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv040rnqzo

HMMMM

Interesting, what a functioning political party

Yet another Americanisation of the UK, by becoming lapdogs of the US and taking up "DOGE".
It seems the UK has fallen rather low. Ironic as well, that Farage complains about Muslims getting threats, when Farage himself was a devout proponent of witchhunting Muslims.
Nigel Farage is a mockery of himself and of many Britons.
A good Brit would stand against americanisation of the country, and stand for security in splendid liberty - not in rhetoric of rambling rumbling terror, as Farage doth.

[Tinhampton]

In recent days, BBC.com has been logging me out of my account once per day. This has been a persistent pattern in recent days and something that's never happened to me before in many years of using BBC.com or BBC.co.uk, except after having acquired a new computer. I haven't disabled any cookies. Is anyone else getting this issue?

Nope. It's almost certainly something to do with your set-up, probably defaults in your new computer. I'd suggest trawling through your settings for anything cookie-related. In particular anything affecting session cookies or expiry.

Odd behaviour can also creep in from settings which are dumbed down as "protect my privacy". If you can't see anything off that's openly related to cookies, then they are the next target.

Good luck

My computer is not as new as you think it is nor was I seeing this issue for the first few weeks of me accessing BBC.com, so I'm just going to assume that it's a BBC issue that should iron itself out by the time I return to the sunlit uplands of BBC.co.uk

snip, quoted by Tin above

Did you pay your TV license? (for legal reasons I’m joking, this is satire)

Veteran of 30 years and counting

[The Archregimancy]

Now Zia Yusuf is returning to Reform UK in a new role... decisive stuff.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv040rnqzo

In, out, in, out, shake it all about.

Please, Ifreann - this is a PG-13 forum. We don't need to read about Zia Yusuf's kinky sex games.

Thank you.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

In recent days, BBC.com has been logging me out of my account once per day. This has been a persistent pattern in recent days and something that's never happened to me before in many years of using BBC.com or BBC.co.uk, except after having acquired a new computer. I haven't disabled any cookies. Is anyone else getting this issue?

Why trust the BBC when the only views they present are the government’s official views? They’re the British version of KCTV but without the propaganda.

Insane take.

[Ifreann]

Reform UK councils in ‘shambles’ as newly elected councillors fail to show up

hmmm

Now Zia Yusuf is returning to Reform UK in a new role... decisive stuff.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv040rnqzo

HMMMM

Interesting, what a functioning political party

Serious professionals, ready to govern.

[Almonaster Nuevo]

In, out, in, out, shake it all about.

Please, Ifreann - this is a PG-13 forum. We don't need to read about Zia Yusuf's kinky sex games.

Thank you.

And here I thought the dogey cokey was a drug reference.

[Imperializt Russia]

In recent days, BBC.com has been logging me out of my account once per day. This has been a persistent pattern in recent days and something that's never happened to me before in many years of using BBC.com or BBC.co.uk, except after having acquired a new computer. I haven't disabled any cookies. Is anyone else getting this issue?

Why trust the BBC when the only views they present are the government’s official views? They’re the British version of KCTV but without the propaganda.

It’s why my dad watches GB News instead.

Is this post satire as well?

Because this is perfect "setup punchline" delivery of the subversion of expectations.