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Yellowgrass Creek
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Postby Yellowgrass Creek » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:19 pm

coalposters are hopeless summies. the worst of the worst. they never strive for thought, or to better themself. its been around for awhile i think, it definitely existed on Cliches 2.

it can also be used to refer to old summies, but i prefer the term peatposter for that now, cus i think its reference to zombie fires is fitting.

coalposter is probably the loosest definition of any currently coined term.

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Postby Yellowgrass Creek » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:25 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ok, I have to ask because it seems to me that you are interpreting the term “summie” way differently than the term I know.

The Summie title is given to those posters who join on the summer school break. They tend to be young, and is prone to spam. What exactly is a summie to you?


Anyone else is welcome to answer this.



in the words of reva-


"A summie is someone who:
1. Does not have extensive and/or unique enough (that is to say, does not consist of a high enough portion of their own writing) lore.
2. Resides nearly exclusively in game or fluff threads, and cannot muster a high-effort answer to save their life on the rare occasions they go to a lore or lore-adjacent thread.
An example of what I consider to be the borderline for 1 would be Owonyaania (in terms of extensiveness). It should also be noted that expansions of existing published work count as unique, as well as alt-timeline/future IRL nations... to a point (WashCo is unique, Grandocantorica is not).

Because many F7 pillars surpass 1 but not 2 (WashCo, Simonia, Libriano, etc), the primary mechanism of Mors Aestatis is the revival of lore threads, eventually filling F7, that will compel them to effortpost."

this is what i, and id say most others on F7, would mostly see a summie as.
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Postby Hexatanople » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:25 pm

A Quick And Comprehensive List Of Summie Genres That’s Probably Wrong
- Summies: the base standard for all following. Single sentence or shorter posts with very basic and little thought behind them. Examples: the usual summer wave.
- Coalposters: Rock bottom summies. Single word posts, rarely more, with no hope to ever redeem themselves in the eyes of the community. See Unmet.
- Peatposters: Older summies, usually around a year or older. Similar post quality to their younger brethren, just a prolonged version. There aren’t many that come to mind, but possible TGEG and others.
- Fungusposters: I’m actually not quite sure myself.
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Postby The Banana Moon » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:25 pm

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your being a summie with summies

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:29 pm

Yellowgrass Creek wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Anyone else is welcome to answer this.



in the words of reva-


"A summie is someone who:
1. Does not have extensive and/or unique enough (that is to say, does not consist of a high enough portion of their own writing) lore.
2. Resides nearly exclusively in game or fluff threads, and cannot muster a high-effort answer to save their life on the rare occasions they go to a lore or lore-adjacent thread.
An example of what I consider to be the borderline for 1 would be Owonyaania (in terms of extensiveness). It should also be noted that expansions of existing published work count as unique, as well as alt-timeline/future IRL nations... to a point (WashCo is unique, Grandocantorica is not).

Because many F7 pillars surpass 1 but not 2 (WashCo, Simonia, Libriano, etc), the primary mechanism of Mors Aestatis is the revival of lore threads, eventually filling F7, that will compel them to effortpost."

this is what i, and id say most others on F7, would mostly see a summie as.


I sorta knew it. This is a subcategory of the term, part of your community culture. NSG just sees it as my original statement. Thanks for clarifying. The F7 I interacted in years ago cannot be any more different than today’s.
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Yellowgrass Creek
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Postby Yellowgrass Creek » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:29 pm

Hexatanople wrote:A Quick And Comprehensive List Of Summie Genres That’s Probably Wrong
- Summies: the base standard for all following. Single sentence or shorter posts with very basic and little thought behind them. Examples: the usual summer wave.
- Coalposters: Rock bottom summies. Single word posts, rarely more, with no hope to ever redeem themselves in the eyes of the community. See Unmet.
- Peatposters: Older summies, usually around a year or older. Similar post quality to their younger brethren, just a prolonged version. There aren’t many that come to mind, but possible TGEG and others.
- Fungusposters: I’m actually not quite sure myself.



tgeg is a peatposter.

fungusposters is basically a nonsense word. i forget who purposed it, but i think it was cypt who shot it down? i forget. it was a synonym to coal posters though.


another other important term would be


Old Guard: refers to the group of players that took place in Val Z's 2020 factbook contest, and are still active. they are seen as pillars of the effortposting community, and are generally most active on lore threads and cliches. examples would be, Sauce and HFoS.

i haven't heard anyone refer to the old guard in a bit though, not since the death of Reva and the emergence of SarSic.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:31 pm

Yellowgrass Creek wrote:
Hexatanople wrote:A Quick And Comprehensive List Of Summie Genres That’s Probably Wrong
- Summies: the base standard for all following. Single sentence or shorter posts with very basic and little thought behind them. Examples: the usual summer wave.
- Coalposters: Rock bottom summies. Single word posts, rarely more, with no hope to ever redeem themselves in the eyes of the community. See Unmet.
- Peatposters: Older summies, usually around a year or older. Similar post quality to their younger brethren, just a prolonged version. There aren’t many that come to mind, but possible TGEG and others.
- Fungusposters: I’m actually not quite sure myself.



tgeg is a peatposter.

fungusposters is basically a nonsense word. i forget who purposed it, but i think it was cypt who shot it down? i forget. it was a synonym to coal posters though.


another other important term would be


Old Guard: refers to the group of players that took place in Val Z's 2020 factbook contest, and are still active. they are seen as pillars of the effortposting community, and are generally most active on lore threads and cliches. examples would be, Sauce and HFoS.


I don’t know. I find the term fungusposter hilarious. But maybe that’s because I was obsessed with a character called Fungapuss.
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Kernovia
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Postby Kernovia » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:34 pm

Yellowgrass Creek wrote:
Hexatanople wrote:A Quick And Comprehensive List Of Summie Genres That’s Probably Wrong
- Summies: the base standard for all following. Single sentence or shorter posts with very basic and little thought behind them. Examples: the usual summer wave.
- Coalposters: Rock bottom summies. Single word posts, rarely more, with no hope to ever redeem themselves in the eyes of the community. See Unmet.
- Peatposters: Older summies, usually around a year or older. Similar post quality to their younger brethren, just a prolonged version. There aren’t many that come to mind, but possible TGEG and others.
- Fungusposters: I’m actually not quite sure myself.



tgeg is a peatposter.

fungusposters is basically a nonsense word. i forget who purposed it, but i think it was cypt who shot it down? i forget. it was a synonym to coal posters though.


another other important term would be


Old Guard: refers to the group of players that took place in Val Z's 2020 factbook contest, and are still active. they are seen as pillars of the effortposting community, and are generally most active on lore threads and cliches. examples would be, Sauce and HFoS.


You know im trying to basically become an old gaurd. Is it going to happen, probably not. But my lore is getting better and ive been bumbing up the effort in my posts. So I can dream.

Also I would like to say sorry for being incredibly annoying earlier.
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Postby Kostane » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:36 pm

Yellowgrass Creek wrote:Old Guard: refers to the group of players that took place in Val Z's 2020 factbook contest, and are still active. they are seen as pillars of the effortposting community, and are generally most active on lore threads and cliches. examples would be, Sauce and HFoS.

i haven't heard anyone refer to the old guard in a bit though, not since the death of Reva and the emergence of SarSic.

I haven't used Old Guard in that sense ever. I used it to refer to people who generally took it upon themselves as some of moral crusade to personally vanquish and attack every single summie. There's probably different meanings, but I found that to be a common characteristic of those who I considered the Old Guard.

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Postby Artoznik » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:37 pm

Hi TET. What is happening.
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Postby The Banana Moon » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:38 pm

Artoznik wrote:Hi TET. What is happening.

SUMMIE

COAL

COALMMIE

COMMIE
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Postby Kernovia » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:38 pm

Artoznik wrote:Hi TET. What is happening.


Disscusing summies and the old gaurd.
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Postby New Gandinia » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:39 pm

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Postby The Banana Moon » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:41 pm

New Gandinia wrote:I’m so mad my brother hates “500 Chunks” it’s peak

he needs his wood back

asap
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Postby Ineva » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:41 pm

Kostane wrote:
Yellowgrass Creek wrote:Old Guard: refers to the group of players that took place in Val Z's 2020 factbook contest, and are still active. they are seen as pillars of the effortposting community, and are generally most active on lore threads and cliches. examples would be, Sauce and HFoS.

i haven't heard anyone refer to the old guard in a bit though, not since the death of Reva and the emergence of SarSic.

I haven't used Old Guard in that sense ever. I used it to refer to people who generally took it upon themselves as some of moral crusade to personally vanquish and attack every single summie. There's probably different meanings, but I found that to be a common characteristic of those who I considered the Old Guard.

Albeit rarely, when I do use the term, I use it in a similar sense. The distinction is mostly negligible, anyway, I find, given the over-lap between the two respective clusters included within each definition.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:42 pm

That cheesecake is love. Yum. And after, a glass of cold milk.
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Postby Kernovia » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:42 pm

Ineva wrote:
Kostane wrote:I haven't used Old Guard in that sense ever. I used it to refer to people who generally took it upon themselves as some of moral crusade to personally vanquish and attack every single summie. There's probably different meanings, but I found that to be a common characteristic of those who I considered the Old Guard.

Albeit rarely, when I do use the term, I use it in a similar sense. The distinction is mostly negligible, anyway, I find, given the over-lap between the two respective clusters included within each definition.


Yeah but old guard sounds way cooler than effortposter, so i'll just use that.
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Postby Yellowgrass Creek » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:43 pm

Kernovia wrote:
Yellowgrass Creek wrote:

tgeg is a peatposter.

fungusposters is basically a nonsense word. i forget who purposed it, but i think it was cypt who shot it down? i forget. it was a synonym to coal posters though.


another other important term would be


Old Guard: refers to the group of players that took place in Val Z's 2020 factbook contest, and are still active. they are seen as pillars of the effortposting community, and are generally most active on lore threads and cliches. examples would be, Sauce and HFoS.


You know im trying to basically become an old gaurd. Is it going to happen, probably not. But my lore is getting better and ive been bumbing up the effort in my posts. So I can dream.

Also I would like to say sorry for being incredibly annoying earlier.




i don't consider myself a effortposter or a member of the old guard, it all takes a very long long time. your heart is in the right place though now i suppose. and don't stress it.

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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:43 pm

Yellowgrass Creek wrote:
Hexatanople wrote:A Quick And Comprehensive List Of Summie Genres That’s Probably Wrong
- Summies: the base standard for all following. Single sentence or shorter posts with very basic and little thought behind them. Examples: the usual summer wave.
- Coalposters: Rock bottom summies. Single word posts, rarely more, with no hope to ever redeem themselves in the eyes of the community. See Unmet.
- Peatposters: Older summies, usually around a year or older. Similar post quality to their younger brethren, just a prolonged version. There aren’t many that come to mind, but possible TGEG and others.
- Fungusposters: I’m actually not quite sure myself.



tgeg is a peatposter.

fungusposters is basically a nonsense word. i forget who purposed it, but i think it was cypt who shot it down? i forget. it was a synonym to coal posters though.


another other important term would be


Old Guard: refers to the group of players that took place in Val Z's 2020 factbook contest, and are still active. they are seen as pillars of the effortposting community, and are generally most active on lore threads and cliches. examples would be, Sauce and HFoS.

i haven't heard anyone refer to the old guard in a bit though, not since the death of Reva and the emergence of SarSic.


2020? Old Guard? Huh? :blink:
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Postby Kostane » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:45 pm

Yellowgrass Creek wrote:
Kernovia wrote:
You know im trying to basically become an old gaurd. Is it going to happen, probably not. But my lore is getting better and ive been bumbing up the effort in my posts. So I can dream.

Also I would like to say sorry for being incredibly annoying earlier.




i don't consider myself a effortposter or a member of the old guard, it all takes a very long long time. your heart is in the right place though now i suppose. and don't stress it.

I consider you a member of the Old Guard, but maybe not necessarily an effortposter. I don't generally read your posts though.

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Postby Yellowgrass Creek » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:45 pm

Ineva wrote:
Kostane wrote:I haven't used Old Guard in that sense ever. I used it to refer to people who generally took it upon themselves as some of moral crusade to personally vanquish and attack every single summie. There's probably different meanings, but I found that to be a common characteristic of those who I considered the Old Guard.

Albeit rarely, when I do use the term, I use it in a similar sense. The distinction is mostly negligible, anyway, I find, given the over-lap between the two respective clusters included within each definition.




whenever i like to point fun at our moral hypocrisy, i just say cliche-posters. but that's dumb. ill try to think of a better term sometime.

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Postby Kernovia » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:46 pm

Kostane wrote:
Yellowgrass Creek wrote:


i don't consider myself a effortposter or a member of the old guard, it all takes a very long long time. your heart is in the right place though now i suppose. and don't stress it.

I consider you a member of the Old Guard, but maybe not necessarily an effortposter. I don't generally read your posts though.


Oh damn, you do? Then I have a chance!
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Postby Kostane » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:47 pm

Kernovia wrote:
Kostane wrote:I consider you a member of the Old Guard, but maybe not necessarily an effortposter. I don't generally read your posts though.


Oh damn, you do? Then I have a chance!

Imo, you do not want to be a member of the "Old Guard." It's not something I say as a compliment.

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Postby Kernovia » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:47 pm

Kostane wrote:
Kernovia wrote:
Oh damn, you do? Then I have a chance!

Imo, you do not want to be a member of the "Old Guard." It's not something I say as a compliment.


Oh, why?
Hello and welcome to Kernovia
"You're safe here"
The year is 2540 and the solar system is split between many nations fighting for it. One is fighting for freedom and the other for power. Both have fought hundreds of wars and battles between eachother.
Now with a new rebellion and the Union of Stars shaken, the future of thesolar sytem is uncertain.

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Postby Artoznik » Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:48 pm

Yellowgrass Creek wrote:
Hexatanople wrote:A Quick And Comprehensive List Of Summie Genres That’s Probably Wrong
- Summies: the base standard for all following. Single sentence or shorter posts with very basic and little thought behind them. Examples: the usual summer wave.
- Coalposters: Rock bottom summies. Single word posts, rarely more, with no hope to ever redeem themselves in the eyes of the community. See Unmet.
- Peatposters: Older summies, usually around a year or older. Similar post quality to their younger brethren, just a prolonged version. There aren’t many that come to mind, but possible TGEG and others.
- Fungusposters: I’m actually not quite sure myself.



tgeg is a peatposter.

fungusposters is basically a nonsense word. i forget who purposed it, but i think it was cypt who shot it down? i forget. it was a synonym to coal posters though.


another other important term would be


Old Guard: refers to the group of players that took place in Val Z's 2020 factbook contest, and are still active. they are seen as pillars of the effortposting community, and are generally most active on lore threads and cliches. examples would be, Sauce and HFoS.

i haven't heard anyone refer to the old guard in a bit though, not since the death of Reva and the emergence of SarSic.

Hm. I wonder where I'd be on that. Probably peat or summie ig?

Anyway, TET. How are you all? I'm back to reading my book again... and brainstorming stupid cat names. And trying to figure out what my psychiatrist meant when he said the things he said.
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 YEPHOEN HEADLINES |  HUMANITY. | The Azo is scheduled to meet with Upplendi leader Hammarsköld in talks of how to counteract against the Blue Moon Buccaneersa bunch of pirates who never really bothered us until recently and now they're wreaking havoc but no one knows why they've started to do this and now they keep plundering our islands here and there and everywhere…   

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