Almost an octogennium since WWII - What now?

[Ethel mermania]

When China invades Taiwan wwiii will occur

People have been saying China will invade Taiwan since basically forever. I don't think there's a point in worrying about it, if it was going to happen soon it would have by now.

China is not ready, but they are working on it.

[Koutamane]

People have been saying China will invade Taiwan since basically forever. I don't think there's a point in worrying about it, if it was going to happen soon it would have by now.

China is not ready, but they are working on it.

If they still aren't ready after 80 years I wouldn't worry.

[Camtropia]

And about Japan, some of the stuff that it did was so horrific that even the Nazis disdained. Similarly with the actions of the Iron Guard in Romania.

WW2 could have had very different alliances. Right up until 1938, Germany was helping China develop its military to fight Japan, Japan had really good relations with Poland (to the point where Japan refused Poland's declaration of war, claiming that the Polish government-in-exile had been forced to do so by the UK), and Italy was terrified that Germany was going to go after their German-speaking territories after annexing Austria. And Stalin was convinced up until Barbarossa itself that Germany would be a continued ally against the capitalist West. The Axis was kind of like a group project that got thrown together the night before it was due, and if they had been more successful, they would have turned on each other immediately after the war.

[Welskerland]

I think they are going to make a sequel that will flop in the box office

Trailer's already looking quite abysmal.

Just add aliens or zombies

[Ethel mermania]

China is not ready, but they are working on it.

If they still aren't ready after 80 years I wouldn't worry.

In 1949 they had other fish to fry. After 1976 they had to repair the damage Mao had done to the country. Now they are well into the process of building a modern military-industrial complex. Invading the ROC is not a simple task, they are now building the combined forces and structure for those forces to be successful in the invasion. Figure prior to 2049 they will be ready, my prediction is that is when the invasion will occur.

[HISPIDA]

over 50 million people died fighting to rid this world of fascism and yet so many want to forget their sacrifices.

[Leitzmark]

And about Japan, some of the stuff that it did was so horrific that even the Nazis disdained. Similarly with the actions of the Iron Guard in Romania.

annexing Austria.

Oh god, the Anschluss
I fucking hate the Anschluss
It seriously makes me mad if I see a German inspired nation here with an annexed Austria (Or similar)
I automatically turn so mad if I see the German borders with an incorporated Austria

[Eastern Gulf States]

WW3 gang, what will the sides be this time?

[Great Britain-and Northern Ireland]

With most of the people who fought in that war now deceased and the now relatively few surviving veterans being at least a hundred years old, fascism is on the rise the world over and has been so for about a decade or so.

“Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it” - George Santayana

Too bloody right, old chap. The old warnings were etched in blood, yet here we are, sleepwalking back into the abyss with barely a blink. It’s like the world’s decided history was just a suggestion.

[Koutamane]

If they still aren't ready after 80 years I wouldn't worry.

In 1949 they had other fish to fry. After 1976 they had to repair the damage Mao had done to the country. Now they are well into the process of building a modern military-industrial complex. Invading the ROC is not a simple task, they are now building the combined forces and structure for those forces to be successful in the invasion. Figure prior to 2049 they will be ready, my prediction is that is when the invasion will occur.

To me this just sounds like you’re writing AltHist fanfiction.

[HISPIDA]

In 1949 they had other fish to fry. After 1976 they had to repair the damage Mao had done to the country. Now they are well into the process of building a modern military-industrial complex. Invading the ROC is not a simple task, they are now building the combined forces and structure for those forces to be successful in the invasion. Figure prior to 2049 they will be ready, my prediction is that is when the invasion will occur.

To me this just sounds like you’re writing AltHist fanfiction.

i mean, it's rather accurate. mao threw china's political system into utter chaos in his attempts to purge his enemies, redefine communism, entrench the anti-proletarian classes he allied with, and make a cult of personality around himself. one of the reasons people like deng xiaoping and hua guofeng came to power despite being the utter antithesis of marx (which the chinese government ostensibly founded itself on, remember) was because mao and the gang of four purged anybody who wasn't a hardcore maoist or pretending to be a hardcore maoists (including all the communists), and the maoists all got purged after hua guofeng entrenched his own power. ever since deng and his ilk came to power china's had to walk a thin line between promising socialism and maintaining its status as a hyper-capitalist power exploiting its status on the periphery, and in many respects it's still recovering from the cultural revolution. for example, back when jiang zemin was coming to power the party was split between more traditional maoists and the youth wing that would eventually lead to xi jinping, and maoists led the tiananmen square protests.

[The Black Forrest]

When China invades Taiwan wwiii will occur

People have been saying China will invade Taiwan since basically forever. I don't think there's a point in worrying about it, if it was going to happen soon it would have by now.

Before trump?……yes.

Trumps effort to weaken this country are well underweigh.

A quick conquering of Taiwan would really screw the US.

[Freedowia]

People have been saying China will invade Taiwan since basically forever. I don't think there's a point in worrying about it, if it was going to happen soon it would have by now.

Before trump?……yes.

Trumps effort to weaken this country are well underweigh.

A quick conquering of Taiwan would really screw the US.

Ah but it's not HOI4.

For one, the Geography of Taiwan makes any chinese logistican and military leader cry.

[Also Bonobos]

Damn dyslexia.

Was very excited to talk about orangutans, and their role in WWII.

[Trollgaard]

People have been saying China will invade Taiwan since basically forever. I don't think there's a point in worrying about it, if it was going to happen soon it would have by now.

China is not ready, but they are working on it.

They would pay a HIGH price even if they did seize Taiwan. As a recall Taiwan developed missiles and has them pointed at 3 gorges dam...China would be ruined.

[The Black Forrest]

Before trump?……yes.

Trumps effort to weaken this country are well underweigh.

A quick conquering of Taiwan would really screw the US.

Ah but it's not HOI4.

For one, the Geography of Taiwan makes any chinese logistican and military leader cry.

Never played HOI4.

Not sure what the geography has to do with anything. Military adapts.

Anyway the prizes to make it a consideration would be the loss of military and intelligence capabilities. Worse would be the tech supply chain catastrophe.

Anyways. A tangent for WW2

[Liberty Martyred]

Make sure students never forget about the Holocaust. If they laugh or snicker derisively about the Holocaust in class, or if they treat Holocaust survivors with disrespect because FrEE pAleSTinE, suspend them indefinitely and flag them and their families to the immigration authorities for deportation due to a failure to assimilate. Cover the war in a way that doesn't shame or demonize Germans or Italians alive today. German schools should teach students to acknowledge the crimes of their forebears, but they must also be taught to forgive themselves as a nation and move on from their dark past. Cover Germany and Italy's worst atrocities, but promote forgiveness and reconciliation between the former warring parties. Do not gloss over the Allied bombing of Dresden either, which killed thousands of civilians. Do not gloss over the USSR's war crimes either or promote blind loyalty to Stalin and Putin. This applies to Russian schools in particular. Absolutely DO NOT indoctrinate students to embrace fascism or communism. Teach the horrors of both and let them decide.

As for the Pacific theater, make sure everyone knows what the Japanese did to the Chinese and Koreans, but do so in a spirit of forgiveness and understanding and do not incite racism or hatred against Japan or Japanese people today like the CCP is doing. Chinese students these days are being taught that "all Japanese are evil". This is unacceptable. Likewise, Japanese history textbooks should not deny or minimize the war crimes, the use of "comfort women" or horrific human experiments committed by the Imperial Japanese Army. By all means, teach students to be proud of their country, but don't gloss over the historical record. As for American schools, do not gloss over the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but do not guilt-trip students into thinking that because of the atomic bombings, nuclear proliferation can never be morally justified. List the arguments both for and against and let them make up their own minds.

[Fanvm Tax]

Make sure students never forget about the Holocaust. If they laugh or snicker derisively about the Holocaust in class, or if they treat Holocaust survivors with disrespect because FrEE pAleSTinE, suspend them indefinitely and flag them and their families to the immigration authorities for deportation due to a failure to assimilate. Cover the war in a way that doesn't shame or demonize Germans or Italians alive today. German schools should teach students to acknowledge the crimes of their forebears, but they must also be taught to forgive themselves as a nation and move on from their dark past. Cover Germany and Italy's worst atrocities, but promote forgiveness and reconciliation between the former warring parties. Do not gloss over the Allied bombing of Dresden either, which killed thousands of civilians. Do not gloss over the USSR's war crimes either or promote blind loyalty to Stalin and Putin. This applies to Russian schools in particular. Absolutely DO NOT indoctrinate students to embrace fascism or communism. Teach the horrors of both and let them decide.

As for the Pacific theater, make sure everyone knows what the Japanese did to the Chinese and Koreans, but do so in a spirit of forgiveness and understanding and do not incite racism or hatred against Japan or Japanese people today like the CCP is doing. Chinese students these days are being taught that "all Japanese are evil". This is unacceptable. Likewise, Japanese history textbooks should not deny or minimize the war crimes, the use of "comfort women" or horrific human experiments committed by the Imperial Japanese Army. By all means, teach students to be proud of their country, but don't gloss over the historical record. As for American schools, do not gloss over the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but do not guilt-trip students into thinking that because of the atomic bombings, nuclear proliferation can never be morally justified. List the arguments both for and against and let them make up their own minds.

Ah, so deport natural-born citizens who don't support the colonial settler state of Israel, and who make edgy jokes about the Holocaust? Yeah, seems legit buddy.

[Liberty Martyred]

Make sure students never forget about the Holocaust. If they laugh or snicker derisively about the Holocaust in class, or if they treat Holocaust survivors with disrespect because FrEE pAleSTinE, suspend them indefinitely and flag them and their families to the immigration authorities for deportation due to a failure to assimilate. Cover the war in a way that doesn't shame or demonize Germans or Italians alive today. German schools should teach students to acknowledge the crimes of their forebears, but they must also be taught to forgive themselves as a nation and move on from their dark past. Cover Germany and Italy's worst atrocities, but promote forgiveness and reconciliation between the former warring parties. Do not gloss over the Allied bombing of Dresden either, which killed thousands of civilians. Do not gloss over the USSR's war crimes either or promote blind loyalty to Stalin and Putin. This applies to Russian schools in particular. Absolutely DO NOT indoctrinate students to embrace fascism or communism. Teach the horrors of both and let them decide.

As for the Pacific theater, make sure everyone knows what the Japanese did to the Chinese and Koreans, but do so in a spirit of forgiveness and understanding and do not incite racism or hatred against Japan or Japanese people today like the CCP is doing. Chinese students these days are being taught that "all Japanese are evil". This is unacceptable. Likewise, Japanese history textbooks should not deny or minimize the war crimes, the use of "comfort women" or horrific human experiments committed by the Imperial Japanese Army. By all means, teach students to be proud of their country, but don't gloss over the historical record. As for American schools, do not gloss over the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but do not guilt-trip students into thinking that because of the atomic bombings, nuclear proliferation can never be morally justified. List the arguments both for and against and let them make up their own minds.

Ah, so deport natural-born citizens who don't support the colonial settler state of Israel, and who make edgy jokes about the Holocaust? Yeah, seems legit buddy.

I meant foreign nationals obviously.

[Varsemia]

Make sure students never forget about the Holocaust. If they laugh or snicker derisively about the Holocaust in class, or if they treat Holocaust survivors with disrespect because FrEE pAleSTinE, suspend them indefinitely and flag them and their families to the immigration authorities for deportation due to a failure to assimilate. Cover the war in a way that doesn't shame or demonize Germans or Italians alive today. German schools should teach students to acknowledge the crimes of their forebears, but they must also be taught to forgive themselves as a nation and move on from their dark past. Cover Germany and Italy's worst atrocities, but promote forgiveness and reconciliation between the former warring parties. Do not gloss over the Allied bombing of Dresden either, which killed thousands of civilians. Do not gloss over the USSR's war crimes either or promote blind loyalty to Stalin and Putin. This applies to Russian schools in particular. Absolutely DO NOT indoctrinate students to embrace fascism or communism. Teach the horrors of both and let them decide.

As for the Pacific theater, make sure everyone knows what the Japanese did to the Chinese and Koreans, but do so in a spirit of forgiveness and understanding and do not incite racism or hatred against Japan or Japanese people today like the CCP is doing. Chinese students these days are being taught that "all Japanese are evil". This is unacceptable. Likewise, Japanese history textbooks should not deny or minimize the war crimes, the use of "comfort women" or horrific human experiments committed by the Imperial Japanese Army. By all means, teach students to be proud of their country, but don't gloss over the historical record. As for American schools, do not gloss over the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but do not guilt-trip students into thinking that because of the atomic bombings, nuclear proliferation can never be morally justified. List the arguments both for and against and let them make up their own minds.

I'm sorry but how is "Free Palestine" disrespectful to holocaust survivors? Or even relevant for that matter?

[The Lazarene Republic]

Make sure students never forget about the Holocaust. If they laugh or snicker derisively about the Holocaust in class, or if they treat Holocaust survivors with disrespect because FrEE pAleSTinE, suspend them indefinitely and flag them and their families to the immigration authorities for deportation due to a failure to assimilate. Cover the war in a way that doesn't shame or demonize Germans or Italians alive today. German schools should teach students to acknowledge the crimes of their forebears, but they must also be taught to forgive themselves as a nation and move on from their dark past. Cover Germany and Italy's worst atrocities, but promote forgiveness and reconciliation between the former warring parties. Do not gloss over the Allied bombing of Dresden either, which killed thousands of civilians. Do not gloss over the USSR's war crimes either or promote blind loyalty to Stalin and Putin. This applies to Russian schools in particular. Absolutely DO NOT indoctrinate students to embrace fascism or communism. Teach the horrors of both and let them decide.

As for the Pacific theater, make sure everyone knows what the Japanese did to the Chinese and Koreans, but do so in a spirit of forgiveness and understanding and do not incite racism or hatred against Japan or Japanese people today like the CCP is doing. Chinese students these days are being taught that "all Japanese are evil". This is unacceptable. Likewise, Japanese history textbooks should not deny or minimize the war crimes, the use of "comfort women" or horrific human experiments committed by the Imperial Japanese Army. By all means, teach students to be proud of their country, but don't gloss over the historical record. As for American schools, do not gloss over the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but do not guilt-trip students into thinking that because of the atomic bombings, nuclear proliferation can never be morally justified. List the arguments both for and against and let them make up their own minds.

I'm sorry but how is "Free Palestine" disrespectful to holocaust survivors? Or even relevant for that matter?

If you don’t let ethnically Jewish people in Israel commit genocide, you are marginalizing them by denigrating their subjective experiences (of deep-seated racial hatred)

[Liberty Martyred]

I'm sorry but how is "Free Palestine" disrespectful to holocaust survivors? Or even relevant for that matter?

If you don’t let ethnically Jewish people in Israel commit genocide, you are marginalizing them by denigrating their subjective experiences (of deep-seated racial hatred)

With its young people planning new lives elsewhere, the remaining Jewish households, many of whom are made up of Holocaust survivors and their descendants, fear they will soon be gone altogether. Mrs Popinski, an 86-year-old widow, said she has even encountered hostility when invited to talk about the Holocaust in schools.

"Muslim schoolchildren often ignore me now when I talk about my experiences in the camps," she said. "It is because of what their parents tell them about Jews. The hatreds of the Middle East have come to Malmo. Schools in Muslim areas of the city simply won't invite Holocaust survivors to speak any more."

Educators struggle to teach about genocide of six million Jews, feel helpless against pushback; some students avoid showing up for trips to Jewish museum, synagogues

I'm sure the experiences of Holocaust survivors are highly subjective and totally made up. The Holocaust is just a distraction from what really matters, namely Muslim lives. /s

Muslim students must learn about the Holocaust and value Jewish lives as much as their own. If they want to be racist and dismissive toward Holocaust survivors, then they can take it elsewhere.

[Freedowia]

Ah but it's not HOI4.

For one, the Geography of Taiwan makes any chinese logistican and military leader cry.

Never played HOI4.

Not sure what the geography has to do with anything. Military adapts.

Anyway the prizes to make it a consideration would be the loss of military and intelligence capabilities. Worse would be the tech supply chain catastrophe.

Anyways. A tangent for WW2

Tell that to the Vietnam war veterans.

Or the Afghanistan war veterans

For one note, fighting in a mountainous terrain is harder than say plains

[The Black Forrest]

Never played HOI4.

Not sure what the geography has to do with anything. Military adapts.

Anyway the prizes to make it a consideration would be the loss of military and intelligence capabilities. Worse would be the tech supply chain catastrophe.

Anyways. A tangent for WW2

Tell that to the Vietnam war veterans.

Or the Afghanistan war veterans

For one note, fighting in a mountainous terrain is harder than say plains

You really think China would think:

“Oh noez. We can’t invade because there are mountains and swamps”

[Freedowia]

Tell that to the Vietnam war veterans.

Or the Afghanistan war veterans

For one note, fighting in a mountainous terrain is harder than say plains

You really think China would think:

“Oh noez. We can’t invade because there are mountains and swamps”

They won’t invade because it’s a literal island and China has yet to develop pretty good amphibious assault strategies or craft yet. They don’t even have enough ships to send their people over.