[DEFEATED] Repeal SC#501 "Liberate Eclipsis"

[0cala]

Have the MGC Sanctions played a part in the voting? As I understand it, Sophia and Tinhampton are sanctioned under item 3 of the text.

The "MGC" is the stupidest shit on this planet.

[Kay Pacha]

Have the MGC Sanctions played a part in the voting? As I understand it, Sophia and Tinhampton are sanctioned under item 3 of the text.

The "MGC" is the stupidest shit on this planet.

Let's make sure we're staying on topic!

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Have the MGC Sanctions played a part in the voting? As I understand it, Sophia and Tinhampton are sanctioned under item 3 of the text.

Certainly true as far as TNP are concerned.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2564046

[NoPantsistan]

As a new player, all this is very interesting to read. Though I have no idea how to vote.

Go to the SC propsal, scroll down a bit, and click either the "Vote For" or "Vote Against" button.

Ahh no, I meant I don't have enough context to have a stance here.

[Areutia]

I very much support the proposal and would love to see it ultimately pass. Though I don't have ambitions to rejoin Eclipsis (and doubt that'll ever happen), one less badge for them is a pleasure to me.

Is this statement stating that you wish for the raiders to remain active inside Eclipsis?

[Cyptopir]

It was far better retribution to burn down their region instead. Besides, that still doesn't explain quite why we should just forgive and forget in the context of a proposal of which's backing is half the consent of those accused.

When did I ever say anything about forgiving and forgetting? I said file a GHR.

Even if we did do that (pointless since it's been months), that still doesn't change the fact that the founder did do that, and that we can hold it against them.

[Wallenburg]

Have the MGC Sanctions played a part in the voting? As I understand it, Sophia and Tinhampton are sanctioned under item 3 of the text.

Certainly true as far as TNP are concerned.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2564046

Ironic that TNP's MoWAA talks about embarrassment when it has made a habit of arguing "we don't like the author, therefore the resolution is poorly written".

[Haymarket Riot]

Certainly true as far as TNP are concerned.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2564046

Ironic that TNP's MoWAA talks about embarrassment when it has made a habit of arguing "we don't like the author, therefore the resolution is poorly written".

Idk why being principled is embarrassing but I'm sorry to hear that or whatever

[Kay Pacha]

Ironic that TNP's MoWAA talks about embarrassment when it has made a habit of arguing

"It"?

[Wallenburg]

Ironic that TNP's MoWAA talks about embarrassment when it has made a habit of arguing "we don't like the author, therefore the resolution is poorly written".

Idk why being principled is embarrassing but I'm sorry to hear that or whatever

Unsound reasoning and dishonest argumentative strategy are interesting things to call "principles". Personally, I doubt anyone in TNP government is principally attached to such things.

"It"?

Yes, ministries are non-person entities.

[Haymarket Riot]

Idk why being principled is embarrassing but I'm sorry to hear that or whatever

Unsound reasoning and dishonest argumentative strategy are interesting things to call "principles". Personally, I doubt anyone in TNP government is principally attached to such things.

I understand that my reasoning may be difficult for the uninitiated to parse but I tell no lies and it’s based in reality. Hope this helps, Wally.

[Opiachus]

Have the MGC Sanctions played a part in the voting? As I understand it, Sophia and Tinhampton are sanctioned under item 3 of the text.

The "MGC" is the stupidest shit on this planet.

I support this proposal, us independents must stand up to the tyrannical WA Elites of the Mewing Geometry dash Compact

[Poderosaterra]

making this post due to "... due to author"

voting against btw

[Earthly Cossack]

Glad that this proposal will probably fail, as its significant lateness and unneeded almost advertising nature is not something I want to see more of in the SC. Hopefully these kinds of proposals can die off and be one in few, but my hopes are not the highest.

[Tinhampton]

There have been various political, practical, and textual issues that have impeded the passage of this resolution. There has been no one factor underlying the fate of this proposal. I know, however, that native demand for the principle of this repeal has not died down. While I cannot comment further in this thread, both for reasons of confidentiality and to avoid threadjacking, I am taking every step within my power which I feel is necessary to ensure that this proposal can be effectively redrafted and - with any luck - enacted before Christmas 2024.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

There have been various political, practical, and textual issues that have impeded the passage of this resolution. There has been no one factor underlying the fate of this proposal. I know, however, that native demand for the principle of this repeal has not died down. While I cannot comment further in this thread, both for reasons of confidentiality and to avoid threadjacking, I am taking every step within my power which I feel is necessary to ensure that this proposal can be effectively redrafted and - with any luck - enacted before Christmas 2024.

If you’re involved in the redrafting, submission etc., then it will get torpedoed again. Suggest you take the hint.

[Opiachus]

I am taking every step within my power which I feel is necessary to ensure that this proposal can be effectively redrafted and - with any luck - enacted before Christmas 2024.

If it is just some sanctions against you as an author, couldn't you just "launder" the resolution through someone else? You would not get any badge but if the alternative is no resolution at all and you truly believed in it, it'd be a necessary sacrifice... of course, this doesn't address any other reasons which may exist. To be totally honest, even though I joined in on the "due to author" meme earlier in this thread because it was funny, I do not think it is healthy for the World Assembly to be devolving into that meme if it is indeed what is actually happening...

[Tinhampton]

"Repeal "Liberate Eclipsis"" was defeated 6,233 votes to 4,931. (44.17% support)

For: 4,931: Kethania (593), Ebonhand (554), Astrobolt (197), Toerana (192), New Samon (178), Typica (144), Levont (114), Moukden and Kirin (107), Mark (77), The Greater Antilles (77), Verdant Haven (72), The Age of Dystopia (67), South Boston Irishmen (60), Mikeswill (55), Ajakor (47), Labyrnna (43), Tinhampton (39), West Nichibotsu (31), The Scarlet Rot (30), WonGya (30), Floyssauu (29), Kaputer (27), Alinek (26), Mesothallania (25), A I T B (25), Roylaii (24), Suter (23), Kolatis (23), Suvmia (22), Inner Solsticia (22), Akhand Bharatam (20), NewTexas (18), Kantabria (17), Marquess of Marchmain (15), Pitbull (15), Slavkian (15), Ter Landia (15), Euroopamaa (13), Oi Barbaroi (13), Ancientania (12), Lamoni (11), Sensorian Isles (9), Bresinnia (9), Hawkwas Sovustian (9), Achias (9), Greater Cuba (8), Josephtan (8), South Newlandia (8), Scotsgale (7), Lunarvi (7), Lunar States (7), Hydroponic Nation (7), Hipearia (7), L V M H (7), Mitzvah (7), The Soviet state of Svalbard (6), The Hyperion Islands (6), The Western Rockies (6), Haaton Prime (5), Lurusitania (5), KoAC (5), Markus Sarasti-Varis (5), Bassiliya (5), Hidrandia (5), Tostone (4), Korumos (4), Madrocea (4), Oathori (4), Luniom (4), Lakenbird (4), Archasia (4), Ghoublins (4), Pikachubob3 (4), The Holland (4), Nevergoon (4), Of The Revived Soviet Union (4), Azorel (4), Voxija (4), Novum Zero (4), JuniusAngeli (4), Lorai (3), Free Yajib (3), Wozmania (3), Red Prosperity (3), Ex-Machina 374 (3), Issa (3), Junastria (3), Kylarnatia (3), Aestheria (3), 11 Templar Knights (3), Rendrid (3), Royal Luwein (3), Insannus (3), West Torino (3), Speedyvpf (3), Democratic Federation of New Utopia (3), Couch Empire (3), Otrea (3), Lenlyvit (2), Lehqhbraot (2), Gerdania (2), Pinstripe Ball Python (2), Tvhead (2), Doslonsu (2), Empire of Australia1 (2), Sedgistan (2), Manril (2), New Massachusett (2), Bayfront International Territory (2), Eurkian Gosuludria (2), Lord Tora (2), The Ancient World (2), Golanchia (2), Gamblia (2), Rivenwood (2), Secret Agent 99 (2), Arneria-Irpa (2), Quasi-Stellar Star Civilizations (2), Zombiedolphins (2), Vector Calculus Quiz (2), Sashilee (2), Jakapil Island (2), EasternDeutschland (2), The Greater Solev Union (2), Orlovskay Federtion (2), Space Country Of Disadvantaged (2), GreaterOhio (2), Kanalania (2), Malalonius (2), Djeeta (2), Nunchia (2), Qudrath (2), Weaklings (2), and (1,469) individual member nations.

Against: 6,233: Pallaith (708), Fujai (355), Xoriet (354), UPC (258), Mechanocracy (130), Gagium (129), Socialist Platypus (113), America the Greater (77), Haymarket Riot (72), Rayekka (71), Deims Kir (67), Student Loan Debt (63), Vancouvia (57), 9006 (55), Heijmskringla (52), The Glorious Hypetrain (46), Adkissa (44), Lesser Velutaria (41), Potatoville (38), New Bradfordsburg (36), Eco-Paris Reformation (30), Parkplace (28), Landbang Rkipo Islands (26), Greater New Orleans (26), Filipino North Carolina (25), Gideon (24), Awesomeness (24), Japuile (23), Gran River (14), Protasof (14), Toriniall (11), NullPointer (11), Rivierenland (11), Kingdom Of Englands (10), Ioavollr (9), Delmond (9), The Cerberus union (8), Rise of the Destroyed (8), Zany Zanes (8), Varnash (8), The Voltarum (8), Weaven (8), The Bolivian Socialist Falange (7), The Hanzanburg Union (7), China Free State (7), Kastaryn (7), Lower Nat Lux (7), Meloniapolis (6), Shanghai Tarany (6), Doestyovsky (6), Illahee (6), Malstha (6), Orlovckaya (6), Anaity (6), Economy Stimulators (6), French New Wake Island (6), I dunno what (5), Waisnor (5), Fortis Argentum (5), Togon (5), Renkland (5), Mercian Legions (5), Kuan Shi Yin (5), The Dragon Empire of United States (5), Camadaland (5), The Common Kingdom (5), Brsil (5), Star Forge (5), Natzinville (5), Wobbegong (4), Libertyrantia (4), Khavvkhnsjnjiekh (4), Muyangaland (4), Darkarion (4), Perendinate (4), Lysset (4), Supax Bramisiaordia (4), The Palentine (4), Redshirts (3), Wabacha (3), Republic of Dixie (3), Henrylands (3), German Reich of Liberty (3), PZ7 (3), New Londonivm (3), Millenhaal (3), Grand American Union Republic (3), Damian101 (3), Eelrak (3), Mystic Dragon (3), Gameran Autocracy (3), Darastrixethe (3), Klanbergia (3), Germanussia (3), Incorporated States of New California (3), Licvinija (3), Dart Monkeys (3), Ervehelde (3), Bali Kingdom (3), Mmoliland (3), RussiaAnatoly (3), Unicross (3), Republic od Albusy (3), Whiskany (3), Celtayoshi (3), Suzi Island (3), SussyAmongusLand (3), Gamdie (2), Andech (2), Catopes (2), Robo Topia (2), Earwood (2), Sernet (2), Jordaqia (2), Alscopia (2), The Auglands (2), Hillandia (2), Krupdaddy (2), Adgacis (2), Sneyland (2), Vonum (2), Astolfan Femboys (2), Chaysovhoz (2), Durnil Islands (2), The Terren Dominion (2), Shattered Cascadia (2), New Neeburm (2), Pirates and Buccaneers (2), Semulta (2), Dinaris (2), Marius Republic (2), Newer Ostland (2), Imperial Felchah (2), Czyia (2), Korxa (2), Hashiru (2), Chemgota (2), Ulissebuerg (2), EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (2), United Lammunist Republic (2), Adeiatic (2), Empire of the Super Titan Dragon (2), Faoland (2), The Crazy Children (2), VICIS (2), Molson Iceland (2), Chudov (2), Strogamehouf (2), Vltava Rivers (2), Ishdon (2), Democracys home (2), The Hill Republic (2), Just give me my money yayyy (2), Smertski (2), United Bongo States of the New America (2), Of The Germanic Empire (2), Novaros (2), The Nation of the WA (2), Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyy (2), Slices Right (2), Aequipo (2), Kingdom of Shay (2), Littlefox (2), Free Fools (2), Lightford (2), The Tree States (2), Corust (2), Dalmatron (2), Khancanburi (2), Dytarma (2), The Azorians (2), Natskia (2), The Honored Reaper (2), Makiland (2), and (2,713) individual member nations.