Is there a god?

[Land of Human stupidity]

Wait,is this because of what they say about homosexuality?

That’s part of it…

The rest is deeply personal.

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ok ,because i don't know what else could anger a person like that
but i wont say anymore

[Love Peace and Friendship]

Society? I am confused here; I was simply dismissing the problem of evil.

Humanity in general.

Oh, no, it's not proof of God's existence, just a counter to a critique of the possibility. Showing how the existence of evil does not disprove God.

[Land of Human stupidity]

Humanity in general.

Oh, no, it's not proof of God's existence, just a counter to a critique of the possibility. Showing how the existence of evil does not disprove God.

This is not even biased.
the evil thing doesnt disprove god,that evidence is crumbling sand.

[New-Minneapolis]

That’s part of it…

The rest is deeply personal.

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ok ,because i don't know what else could anger a person like that
but i wont say anymore

Easy, when it comes to the God of Christianity, I have a chip on my shoulder. The God of Islam is more personal repulsion.

[Kerwa]

Knowing the difference between good and evil is what makes us human. A moral conscience is what differentiates us from other species of animalia. G-d intended for us to have that.

In a world that is only good, there is no evil, and thus no middle ground between good and evil.

I am not Christian. Life and death are necessary factors for either of the two to exist. Without one, there is not the other. They are dependent upon one another, just as good is the complement of evil, and vice versa.

There are other animals that have morals and senses of fairness.

I don’t think you can impose human value judgments like that on animal behavior. I think the very most you can say is it appears that way, but even then I wouldn’t go that far.

[Land of Human stupidity]

There are other animals that have morals and senses of fairness.

I don’t think you can impose human value judgments like that on animal behavior. I think the very most you can say is it appears that way, but even then I wouldn’t go that far.

The closest option is the elephant,which is considered holy in hinduism(concidence?I think not lol)Anyways,i agree,it doesnt make sense to make an animal have mostly only human traits.

[THe vOoriApEn dIscoRd]

I wouldn't be that surprised if there is, but I don't think there is, personally.

[Nemaha County]

I believe the existence of a planet which cannot only support life, but life as complex and diverse as what we have now, is only possible through the work of God

[Godular]

I believe the existence of a planet which cannot only support life, but life as complex and diverse as what we have now, is only possible through the work of God

With a universe as big as it is, the probability of life such as us arising free of outside interference is not only possible, but functionally inevitable… many times over.

[Dyelli Beybi]

The answer is yes: I will accept your sacrifice now. Preferably more cash and less goats this time.

[Mutualist Chaos]

Wait,is this because of what they say about homosexuality?

That’s part of it…

The rest is deeply personal.

Well I dunno about you but the idea that I should worship a god who demanded that a father murder his son and then took it back at the last possible second, just to conduct a loyalty test, is fucking abhorrent. Then there's the whole Eden trap, the Flood, and other horrific crimes.

If the God of Abraham existed, it would be our moral duty to find it; arrest it; try it for crimes against humanity, terrorism, ethnic cleansing, genocide, incitement, conspiracy, and entrapment; and sentence it for those crimes.

This is why I don't understand people who accept the standard line that Satan or the Devil are the most evil beings in the universe. What has Luficer done that is anywhere close to the atrocities attributed to God Himself?

[Cerespasia]

No. I don't know for sure. Stop trying to find out. Some things are best left unsolved.

[Repreteop]

Yes, but then we would not a say in our actions. We have to be allowed the choice between sin and virtue. Otherwise, we will be nothing but robots lacking the ability to freely choose. That's why the fall, and thus evil, was necessary.

Why couldn't there be both free will and no evil? Are you saying that god is incapable of making a world such that there is free will and no evil?

Alot of things one can do that people think is bad is according to rules and laws G-d has brought up. While some things that some people think is wrong (i.e. homosexuality) aren't really as bad as something like killing or stealing, it doesn't change nothing.

[Dogmeat]

No. I don't know for sure. Stop trying to find out. Some things are best left unsolved.

This is just a lie people tell themselves because they can't find any actual evidence. That somehow it's better we don't know.

No. Knowledge is a good thing. More knowledge is categorically good. And you can only make good decisions based on accurate knowledge. It's not like germ theory ruined the wonderful mystery of disease, or atomic theory ruined the wonderful mystery of how metals work.

[New-Minneapolis]

Why couldn't there be both free will and no evil? Are you saying that god is incapable of making a world such that there is free will and no evil?

Alot of things one can do that people think is bad is according to rules and laws G-d has brought up. While some things that some people think is wrong (i.e. homosexuality) aren't really as bad as something like killing or stealing, it doesn't change nothing.

What do you mean by “if doesn’t change nothing”?

No. I don't know for sure. Stop trying to find out. Some things are best left unsolved.

This is just a lie people tell themselves because they can't find any actual evidence. That somehow it's better we don't know.

No. Knowledge is a good thing. More knowledge is categorically good. And you can only make good decisions based on accurate knowledge. It's not like germ theory ruined the wonderful mystery of disease, or atomic theory ruined the wonderful mystery of how metals work.

Do to believe that there are some things in this observable universe that are just unknowable and impossible for humans to discover or comprehend.

[Repreteop]

Alot of things one can do that people think is bad is according to rules and laws G-d has brought up. While some things that some people think is wrong (i.e. homosexuality) aren't really as bad as something like killing or stealing, it doesn't change nothing.

What do you mean by “if doesn’t change nothing”?

It doesn't change the law just because one views one thing bad when it is good and one thing good when its bad. Law should be up to interpretation at some point and evolved at points when times change.

[New-Minneapolis]

What do you mean by “if doesn’t change nothing”?

It doesn't change the law just because one views one thing bad when it is good and one thing good when its bad. Law should be up to interpretation at some point and evolved at points when times change.

But as a Jew, you do acknowledge that many of your laws don’t apply to me as a goy, right? I’m not going to get circumcised, and I’m not giving up pork. I’m willing to be a Shabbos goy though. Lol

[Repreteop]

It doesn't change the law just because one views one thing bad when it is good and one thing good when its bad. Law should be up to interpretation at some point and evolved at points when times change.

But as a Jew, you do acknowledge that many of your laws don’t apply to me as a goy, right? I’m not going to get circumcised, and I’m not giving up pork. I’m willing to be a Shabbos goy though. Lol

I don't demand you become a Jew.

Goy is a funny word as it really doesn't make sense when used, it is usually translated as "nation". Funny word that I use all the time.

That is very interpretive too. I am a progressive Jew that associates more with Reform Judaism, but instead I just follow more laws that I think are right than some I'm guessing. Reform Judaism doesn't really require you to get circumcised or not eat pork but I usually don't eat pork for non religious reasons, adding that pigs roll around in their shit all day.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

But as a Jew, you do acknowledge that many of your laws don’t apply to me as a goy, right? I’m not going to get circumcised, and I’m not giving up pork. I’m willing to be a Shabbos goy though. Lol

I don't demand you become a Jew.

Goy is a funny word as it really doesn't make sense when used, it is usually translated as "nation". Funny word that I use all the time.

That is very interpretive too. I am a progressive Jew that associates more with Reform Judaism, but instead I just follow more laws that I think are right than some I'm guessing. Reform Judaism doesn't really require you to get circumcised or not eat pork but I usually don't eat pork for non religious reasons, adding that pigs roll around in their shit all day.

You’re Jewish now? Weren’t you Muslim last week? I’m confused.

[High Earth]

The Earth orbits the sun at such a perfect curvature that we're not all dead. The moon orbits the Earth at such a curvature that we're not all dead. This can't just be a coincidence.

Suppose a puddle one day gains sentience:

"Wow" it exclaims, "this hole fits me staggeringly well, it must have been made for me!"

It's the anthropic principle, any observations about the universe are limited because the universe first had to give rise to an intelligent species for which to observe it.

It is not just the orbit of the planets, some of the principals, that there are only one of in the entire universe mind you, are perfectly suited for human life. Such as the gravitational constant perfectly allowing planets to form, or the attractions between atoms being just right so that molecules can form. If any of these constants were any different by a fraction of a percent, life would be impossible all through the universe. There are one one of each of these in the universe too. Thus, it cannot all be a coincidence.

[New-Minneapolis]

I don't demand you become a Jew.

Goy is a funny word as it really doesn't make sense when used, it is usually translated as "nation". Funny word that I use all the time.

That is very interpretive too. I am a progressive Jew that associates more with Reform Judaism, but instead I just follow more laws that I think are right than some I'm guessing. Reform Judaism doesn't really require you to get circumcised or not eat pork but I usually don't eat pork for non religious reasons, adding that pigs roll around in their shit all day.

You’re Jewish now? Weren’t you Muslim last week? I’m confused.

Even I haven’t switched religions they quickly. Lol

[Repreteop]

I don't demand you become a Jew.

Goy is a funny word as it really doesn't make sense when used, it is usually translated as "nation". Funny word that I use all the time.

That is very interpretive too. I am a progressive Jew that associates more with Reform Judaism, but instead I just follow more laws that I think are right than some I'm guessing. Reform Judaism doesn't really require you to get circumcised or not eat pork but I usually don't eat pork for non religious reasons, adding that pigs roll around in their shit all day.

You’re Jewish now? Weren’t you Muslim last week? I’m confused.

im always jewish me matey, always. i love learning about religions though and sometimes they inspire me so much i try them out. always will be jewish.

Even I haven’t switched religions they quickly. Lol

Next time on the Repreteop show, I will become a Scientologist.

[Valrifall]

Suppose a puddle one day gains sentience:

"Wow" it exclaims, "this hole fits me staggeringly well, it must have been made for me!"

It's the anthropic principle, any observations about the universe are limited because the universe first had to give rise to an intelligent species for which to observe it.

It is not just the orbit of the planets, some of the principals, that there are only one of in the entire universe mind you, are perfectly suited for human life. Such as the gravitational constant perfectly allowing planets to form, or the attractions between atoms being just right so that molecules can form. If any of these constants were any different by a fraction of a percent, life would be impossible all through the universe. There are one one of each of these in the universe too. Thus, it cannot all be a coincidence.

Think about what you're saying:

"We observe that the conditions of the universe are perfect for observers to have evolved" is tautology, nothing more.

[Alvecia]

It is not just the orbit of the planets, some of the principals, that there are only one of in the entire universe mind you, are perfectly suited for human life. Such as the gravitational constant perfectly allowing planets to form, or the attractions between atoms being just right so that molecules can form. If any of these constants were any different by a fraction of a percent, life would be impossible all through the universe. There are one one of each of these in the universe too. Thus, it cannot all be a coincidence.

Think about what you're saying:

"We observe that the conditions of the universe are perfect for observers to have evolved" is tautology, nothing more.

"It's as if this hole was made just for me" said the puddle.

[Haloe]

If by a 'god' we mean the 'one-all-god,' then no. Certainly not the transcendent, immaterial, monothetic god of the western and abrahamic traditions. There is only an 'unknown' god, or many 'little' gods, who hide in blue-hued mists, who come and go like the weather, whisper to us while we sleep, endlessly sink into the swelling depths, barely in sight and just out of reach.

It's all too artless to trust in a glorified liege-lord who governs everything from a place beyond the sky. His sign and ruling impulse have long since waned even as some parade his icon around in zealous desperation – today it's even banal to speak of his bitter yet timely demise, though we might still invoke his moral and economic authority, appeal to his stately sanctioned order, or cling to our sad, obsequious desire for absolution and salvation out of contempt for the world, for the flesh, and for the earth.

Yet where God, for whom there is only eternal life or death, dies in resentment, the ancient, fallible gods of the passions whose exuberance endures in myth, die everyday in laughter and eternal recourse. It is quaint to think that the manifolds of the soul could ever be subjugated by such monotony as imposed by the priest – the impulses know no sovereign, only various vulcanisms and mercuries. We are left only with our thousand selves, who finally can be heard faintly singing over the dying din of religion.

Thus the death of the 'one' god now leaves space for the soul and the cosmos to breathe in one and the same breath. No more harsh lighting, but the softness of dawn and dusk. A newfound trust for the sweet caprices of the earth. So long as we are still moved by the intensity of life, by worldly passions and forces, be they love, boredom, or reason, wind, sea, or thunder, there are 'gods' old and new to be found and made. As long as we possess an intuition or sense for veneration, there will be little gods with oblique monikers and torturous epithets shadowing us wherever we go.